"Rally for Humanity", a Nationwide Anti-Muslim Protest, to Take Place Saturday - Polidicks

[url=http://www.seattleglobalist.com/2015/10/09/kitsap-mosque-bremerton-anti-islam-rally-washington-rally-for-humanity/42317]Source #1[/url] [B]Mosques in Western Washington bracing for Anti-Islam rally Saturday[/B] [quote]The Muslim community in Bremerton is barely 30 people. Yet their small congregation is bracing for an anti-Islam protest this weekend. The Port Orchard Global Rally For Humanity Rally is a demonstration called to reject “Sharia Law” in Kitsap County. The rally is part of an international network of protests all set to occur this weekend. Mobilizing through social media, “patriot groups” like the Oathkeepers, The Three Percenters’ Club and the United Patriots Front are organizing protests at mosques across America, Australia and the UK. “In the 20 years I’ve lived here, our peaceful community never experienced hatred of any form,” said Hamid Haji, a board member of the Islamic Center of Kitsap County, where the Bremerton rally is planned. Related anti-Islam protests are planned for mosques in 20 states, including in Phoenix, Arizona. The Phoenix rally is at the same mosque where similar protests took place in May, when armed groups of bikers, veterans, Three Percenter’s and Tea Party supporters, some bearing profane signs and t-shirts, staged two large protests.[/quote] -- [url=http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2015/10/open-carry_group_to_protest_mu.html]Source #2[/url] [B]Open-carry group to protest 'Muslim colonization' in Dearborn[/B] [quote]DEARBORN, MI -- Dearborn, a Detroit suburb with a large Muslim population, has drawn radical protests in the past and is one of more than a dozen cities where anti-Muslim rallies are planned across the nation Saturday. The Oath Keepers, an activist organization that vows to uphold the Constitution and whose members often openly carry firearms, are believed to be behind the effort called the Global Rally for Humanity. The Oathkeepers recently garnered attention in August when armed members showed up in Ferguson, Mo., during protests on the one-year anniversary of the death of Michael Brown with the stated goal of helping maintain order.[/quote] Oh boy, a bunch of armed retards continuing to curbstomp minority relations in America

Power tripping guys like these destroy the reputation and history of actual "militias".

Well saying "True Islam is Terrorism" is a bit much. If you look at the texts it does call for expanding Islam through violence and martyrdom but most Muslims, although a bit conservative are quite peaceful so it doesn't make sense to just call all Muslims terrorists and treat them as such.

today our imam told us to not come to the masjid for afternoon prayer tomorrow

[QUOTE]The Islamic Center of Kitsap County’s board is preparing for the rally, although there are currently just eight people RSVP’d as attending the rally on the Facebook event page.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]the police department is monitoring the situation closely, although they do not expect protesters.[/QUOTE] Doesn't really sound like it's gonna be that big.

at least they didn't pick friday to hold their protests

Let's just hope this doesn't turn into Kristallnacht 2.0

[QUOTE=maxumym;48869019]Let's just hope this doesn't turn into Kristallnacht 2.0[/QUOTE] Don't be so naive.

[QUOTE=maxumym;48869019]Let's just hope this doesn't turn into Kristallnacht 2.0[/QUOTE] They'd get arrested if they tried anything even remotely similar. You can't have a Kristallnacht in a free society.

Hopefully if anyone does show, a counter protest will pop up.

these crazies are a threat to the country

[QUOTE=elitehakor;48869017]at least they didn't pick friday to hold their protests[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]mosques should also expect protestors at Friday prayer, especially since the shared video calls for action on Friday as well.[/QUOTE]

What good will come out of this? Nothing.

"Rally for humanity." I don't think that means what they think it does.

[QUOTE=G3rman;48868965]Power tripping guys like these destroy the reputation and history of actual "militias".[/QUOTE] Militias have never had a good reputation, not for effectiveness ("To place any dependence on Militia, is, assuredly resting upon a broken staff." -George Washington; Sept. 24, 1776) and these days (since the 1990s) not for reasonable behavior. They're a bunch of idiotic, far-right rural Christians who want to feel important without any actual understanding of the implications of what they generally condone in terms of ideology-- against our federal government especially. They need to be destroyed. The Oath Keepers, while a useful tool in Ferguson when government forces wouldn't respond as harshly as they needed to against looters, especially should be destroyed.

[QUOTE=Govna;48869372]Militias have never had a good reputation, not for effectiveness ("To place any dependence on Militia, is, assuredly resting upon a broken staff." -George Washington; Sept. 24, 1776) and these days (since the 1990s) not for reasonable behavior. They're a bunch of idiotic, far-right rural Christians who want to feel important without any actual understanding of the implications of what they generally condone in terms of ideology-- against our federal government especially. They need to be destroyed. The Oath Keepers, while a useful tool in Ferguson when government forces wouldn't respond as harshly as they needed to against looters, especially should be destroyed.[/QUOTE] Seems like they're just glorified gun clubs that occasionally take on a police role.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48869397]Seems like they're just glorified gun clubs that occasionally take on a police role.[/QUOTE] They get too political/religious to serve police roles. They've got too many unrealistic, hell, outright incorrect, views on society, the United States government, etc.: survivalism, anti-taxation/anti-establishmentarianism, Sovereign Citizen bullshit, Paleoconservatism/Libertarianism, etc. They're a bunch of paranoid, idealistic morons who are always spouting on about some kind of imminent threat to America; when it's not our own government that's about to destroy us or enslave us, according to them, then it's immigrants, communists and socialists, the New World Order, liberals, etc. If you want a peek inside their minds, spend a few minutes checking out [url=http://www.truthandaction.org]Truth and Action[/url]. One addition to this: they're paranoid, idealistic morons [i]with guns and camosuits[/i]. At their worst, a would-be Timothy McVeigh appears from their ranks; but more than not, they're just a vocal agitation that could be dispersed easily with violence. We keep an eye on them for these reasons. They like to feel tough and basically amount to a bunch of adults trying to play soldier.

[QUOTE=Govna;48869499]They get too political/religious to serve police roles. They've got too many unrealistic, hell, outright incorrect, views on society, the United States government, etc.: survivalism, anti-taxation/anti-establishmentarianism, Sovereign Citizen bullshit, Paleoconservatism/Libertarianism, etc.[/QUOTE]So libertarianism is a bad thing? [I]Wow.[/I] You try to paint militias as the absolute worst individuals possible that "need to be destroyed" and frankly I'm glad they exist so people like you are kept in check. For all of their faults, I'm glad they're here because I wouldn't want to live in whatever fucked up authoritarian world you'd like to have.

[QUOTE=Govna;48869499] One addition to this: they're paranoid, idealistic morons [i]with guns and camosuits[/i]. At their worst, a would-be Timothy McVeigh appears from their ranks; but more than not, they're just a vocal agitation that could be dispersed easily with violence. We keep an eye on them for these reasons. They like to feel tough and basically amount to a bunch of adults trying to play soldier.[/QUOTE] Would like to point out that the militia movement and white supremacist movement died down on its own [I]a lot[/I] after the Oklahoma City Bombing. When it comes to putting action to words, the overwhelming majority die down.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;48869594]So libertarianism is a bad thing? [I]Wow.[/I] You try to paint militias as the absolute worst individuals possible that "need to be destroyed" and frankly I'm glad they exist so people like you are kept in check. For all of their faults, I'm glad they're here because I wouldn't want to live in whatever fucked up authoritarian world you'd like to have.[/QUOTE] Yeah, no, a bunch of gun-totting morons are in no way keeping us from authoritarian world in any way shape or form. They hold no political or social sway, and at most endanger other citizens through idiotic actions.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;48869600]Would like to point out that the militia movement and white supremacist movement died down on its own [I]a lot[/I] after the Oklahoma City Bombing. When it comes to putting action to words, the overwhelming majority die down.[/QUOTE]Yeah, and that was after a surge in attention and notice after Waco and Ruby Ridge. Thing about that is McVeigh was actually booted out of a militia [I]precisely because[/I] he was talking about blowing shit up and killing people. Honestly I consider them to be like nuclear arsenals: functionally useless but the thought of them actually doing anything is enough to get people to settle down. [QUOTE=gufu;48869669]Yeah, no, a bunch of gun-totting morons are in no way keeping us from authoritarian world in any way shape or form. They hold no political or social sway, and at most endanger other citizens through idiotic actions.[/QUOTE]I'd rather have them than not have them, they're all talk and that's [I]fine[/I] because they don't actually need to do anything. Every time they show up at a protest making sure everyone knows how much they're flexing all their constitutional rights and sticking it to the man and being extra crazy, they're giving the local, state, and federal government cause to step back and think. Bundy ranch protesters got away with being in an [I]armed standoff[/I] with the federal government while the completely unarmed Occupy protests regularly got peppersprayed and whacked with batons. I don't think that's a coincidence. Plus I'd rather have assholes who make double-extra sure that everyone knows they're totally within their rights to open-carry a fucking full-sized rifle than people who imply libertarianism is a bad view to have.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;48869747]Bundy ranch protesters got away with being in an [I]armed standoff[/I] with the federal government while the completely unarmed Occupy protests regularly got peppersprayed and whacked with batons.e.[/QUOTE] I don't see an armed march on wallstreet going well for anybody. Also Bundy was clearly in the wrong and got his way because he threatened violence. Thats just not right.

[QUOTE=JumpinJackFlash;48869747]Yeah, and that was after a surge in attention and notice after Waco and Ruby Ridge. Thing about that is McVeigh was actually booted out of a militia [I]precisely because[/I] he was talking about blowing shit up and killing people. [B]Honestly I consider them to be like nuclear arsenals: functionally useless but the thought of them actually doing anything is enough to get people to settle down.[/B] I'd rather have them than not have them, they're all talk and that's [I]fine[/I] because they don't actually need to do anything. Every time they show up at a protest making sure everyone knows how much they're flexing all their constitutional rights and sticking it to the man and being extra crazy, they're giving the local, state, and federal government cause to step back and think. Bundy ranch protesters got away with being in an [I]armed standoff[/I] with the federal government while the completely unarmed Occupy protests regularly got peppersprayed and whacked with batons. I don't think that's a coincidence. Plus I'd rather have assholes who make double-extra sure that everyone knows they're totally within their rights to open-carry a fucking full-sized rifle than people who imply libertarianism is a bad view to have.[/QUOTE] I don't think you understand the concept of MAD. MAD is when equally armed nations/forces are locked into a grand Mexican standoff. Militias are nowhere equal to the power of The US army. Bundy was a manic, racist asshole who almost started Waco 2.0. Being black, I don't really think he's looking out for my rights as an American citizen. Look at the politics of militias. They are either far-right or rightist anti-government. They use the American consitution as a casus belli for being crazed dicks for no reason, but I know for a fact that if any random miltia got major political power, they would become the monsters they fought against.

Sorry, but even though they seem like gun-totin' hicks.... I can't argue with protesting Sharia Law. That does NOT belong here in America. You follow our laws, end of story.

[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;48869893]Sorry, but even though they seem like gun-totin' hicks.... I can't argue with protesting Sharia Law. That does NOT belong here in America. You follow our laws, end of story.[/QUOTE] The Mosques they protest probably don't advocate for Sharia law. Most Muslims in the west (not Europe) are quite against forcing their beliefs on others and in general have quite progressive versions of Islam.

[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;48869893]Sorry, but even though they seem like gun-totin' hicks.... I can't argue with protesting Sharia Law. That does NOT belong here in America. You follow our laws, end of story.[/QUOTE] you're being sarcastic right?

[QUOTE=JerryK;48869931]you're being sarcastic right?[/QUOTE] No. Would you really want to live in America (or any country that's not Islamic for that matter) and have someone from another country come over and tell you that you have to abide by THEIR rules? Its already rampant in England. Those "Sharia Law Enforcers" who harass people for doing things that they don't agree with and/or is against their own religion. i.e. forcing their beliefs on you.

[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;48869945]No. Would you really want to live in America and have someone from another country come over and tell you that you have to abide by THEIR rules? Its already rampant in England. Those "Sharia Law Enforcers" who harass people for doing things that they don't agree with and/or is against their own religion. i.e. forcing their beliefs on you.[/QUOTE] lol that doesn't, hasn't, and won't happen you're honestly delusional [editline]9th October 2015[/editline] this is what happens when your source of information is daily mail and fox news

[QUOTE=JerryK;48869958]lol that doesn't, hasn't, and won't happen you're honestly delusional [editline]9th October 2015[/editline] this is what happens when your source of information is daily mail and fox news[/QUOTE] You're right, it totally doesn't happen.... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9L_zEZflFQ[/media] I may not agree with how these people are going about the protest, but do you truly want this happening, possibly where you live? If you do, then you're the delusional one.

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48869829]I don't see an armed march on wallstreet going well for anybody. Also Bundy was clearly in the wrong and got his way because he threatened violence. Thats just not right.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right and I'm not going to argue with you about that, I agree he was in the wrong. Still, the federal government didn't go in despite their very not-nice reputation regarding this sort of thing. They fucked over Native Americans [U]several[/U] times, specifically the BLM, and any legal claims against the feds flat-out got dismissed. I mean on one hand you have a racist shithead tax dodger and then you have the US government on the other... Honestly I'm going to have to say everyone involved is kinda not great at all. [QUOTE=axelord157;48869836]I don't think you understand the concept of MAD. MAD is when equally armed nations/forces are locked into a grand Mexican standoff. Militias are nowhere equal to the power of The US army.[/QUOTE]No no, I'm not talking about MAD, I'm talking about nukes in the sense that the militias are North Korea in that analogy. Despite obvious casus belli, nobody's actually fucked with North Korea and still wouldn't even without China's backing. It's just more trouble than it's worth, so talking to them is a better alternative. [QUOTE=axelord157;48869836]Look at the politics of militias. They are either far-right or rightist anti-government. They use the American consitution as a casus belli for being crazed dicks for no reason, but I know for a fact that if any random miltia got major political power, they would become the monsters they fought against.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to disagree with you, I've bumped shoulders with these types a lot but the ones that are actually visible tend to be two types: wary of the government, or wary of the government with some severe religious and/or racial flavoring. Most of the militia groups out there really are basically very enthusiastic gun clubs that have this big political thing where they go on and on about "thuh gubment." When they're actually needed it isn't for fighting off UN troops taking over America (seriously, I'm not joking people believe that) it's 100% of the time disaster relief, food shelf stuff, or community projects. Honestly they're not even remotely dangerous when you get down to it because our government really isn't in the business of shooting it's citizens for no reason. That's why they backed down at the Bundy standoff, we just don't live under the thumb of a tyrannical government no matter how badly the current one fucks up from time to time. [editline]and to add[/editline] Honestly for every crazy Christian Identity militia nut there's probably five militia guys who are just super duper fond of the constitution. They're the guys who go "NO, I DO NOT RECOGNIZE YOU, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT" and then goes on TheHighRoad.com or AR15.com and posts about their gun collection. The only time they've shot in anger was at the rabbits in their garden fucking up their non-GMO heritage seed vegetables. As far as violence goes I'm more concerned with Canadians during hockey season than I am with militias.