• North Korea 'racing ahead' on nuclear plan, defector says
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[quote] (CNN)Political uncertainty in the United States and in South Korea could give North Korean leader Kim Jong Un "an apt time" to develop nuclear weapons "at all costs by the end of 2017," a high-profile North Korean diplomat who recently defected to South Korea said Tuesday. "Due to domestic political procedures, North Korea calculates that South Korea and the US will not be able to take physical or military actions to deter North Korea's nuclear development," Thae Yong-ho, formerly No. 2 at the North Korean Embassy in London, said in a news briefing, according to the Yonhap News Agency.[/quote] [url]http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/27/politics/kim-jong-un-donald-trump-nuclear/index.html[/url]
Even if they develop a nuke they still have no actual means of delivering it anywhere. And if they do somehow manage to hit anything of any importance with their nuclear weapon every other nuclear power that has North Korea in their range would nuke them back to the stone age.
[QUOTE=Damjen;51591996]Even if they develop a nuke they still have no actual means of delivering it anywhere. And if they do somehow manage to hit anything of any importance with their nuclear weapon every other nuclear power that has North Korea in their range would nuke them back to the stone age.[/QUOTE] I doubt we'll nuke them, we'll probably pubstomp their asses with the full might of every major military on the planet though. The global political community would go full out of a country actually got nuked, and the soviet shit NK has would do little to stop a fully modernized militant force.
Is it wrong to hope they actually launch a nuke, that gets shot down, just so we have a reason to go to war with them and hopefully liberate the entire country?
[QUOTE=Xyrec;51592132]Is it wrong to hope they actually launch a nuke, that gets shot down, just so we have a reason to go to war with them and hopefully liberate the entire country?[/QUOTE] Yes because millions of people can still die from the ensuing warfare.
[QUOTE=Xyrec;51592132]Is it wrong to hope they actually launch a nuke, that gets shot down, just so we have a reason to go to war with them and hopefully liberate the entire country?[/QUOTE] this is why we can never have peace in the world, people want there to be something happening just because there isn't anything happening.
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;51592283]this is why we can never have peace in the world, people want there to be something happening just because there isn't anything happening.[/QUOTE] You can try and make peace with NK without them threatening someone if you want :pudge:
[QUOTE=The Rifleman;51592156]Yes because millions of people can still die from the ensuing warfare.[/QUOTE]Yes, but it would take one hell of a plan to take down the dictatorship of North Korea with very few deaths as possible.
[QUOTE=RoboChimp;51592507]Yes, but it would take one hell of a plan to take down the dictatorship of North Korea with very few deaths as possible.[/QUOTE] take over a small part in the center and fortify it, then start handing out food en masse. government toppled in 6 months.
He worked in an embassy, how much would he know about secret projects? "hey Thae Yong-ho just updating you on the nukes, less than a year off now, hope you're having a good time in london. Much love. Kim" Also is it outside the realms of possibility for someone to pay him to say some scary story about NK making nukes so the person paying might benefit from production of more military goods. Or perhaps as a distraction from the Bs happening in SK government atm. Or perhaps its propaganda he's heard? sure I'm wearing a tinfoil hat but I really can't take NK all that seriously, nobody helps them, they can't feed their own people and they are permanently having to ration jet fuel from their 1950s jets.
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51592543]He worked in an embassy, how much would he know about secret projects? "hey Thae Yong-ho just updating you on the nukes, less than a year off now, hope you're having a good time in london. Much love. Kim" Also is it outside the realms of possibility for someone to pay him to say some scary story about NK making nukes so the person paying might benefit from production of more military goods. Or perhaps as a distraction from the Bs happening in SK government atm. Or perhaps its propaganda he's heard? sure I'm wearing a tinfoil hat but I really can't take NK all that seriously, nobody helps them, they can't feed their own people and they are permanently having to ration jet fuel from their 1950s jets.[/QUOTE]Well, nukes are a useful diplomatic tool, the North Koreans have used their testing in the past as a way to get concessions on stuff by stopping the testing (then resuming it again a short while later); so a senior diplomat would likely be briefed on them to some extent As for using it as a distraction from the political scandal, seems a bit too late for that. Park Geun-hye already been impeached and removed from office; the majority of the parliament united against her, and no doubt her own party is not eager to do her any favours. I'd imagine if they also have their own wrongdoings, they'd rather amplify Park's own colossal fuckup and use it as a scapegoat. Still, can't rule out the possibility it's bollocks though; North Korea is sort of like Poe's Law in action in that whatever shit you make up, it's often indistinguishable from the real stuff.
[QUOTE=minilandstan;51592077]I doubt we'll nuke them, we'll probably pubstomp their asses with the full might of every major military on the planet though. The global political community would go full out of a country actually got nuked, and the soviet shit NK has would do little to stop a fully modernized militant force.[/QUOTE] Would they really? They'd probably all stand down because they're backed by china but it's a nice thought.
[QUOTE=dark_vivec;51593201]Would they really? They'd probably all stand down because they're backed by china but it's a nice thought.[/QUOTE] If NK launched a nuke, china would nope the fuck out of any protection deals it has with NK faster than you could say "woops" Chinas just as tired of their bullshit as the rest of the world. Cheap North Korean goods and labor, and having a buffer between them and South Korea is the only reason china puts up with them.
can china just stomp them already, we promise to just sit this one out if they did. [editline]28th December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=shad0w440;51593218]If NK launched a nuke, china would nope the fuck out of any protection deals it has with NK faster than you could say "woops" Chinas just as tired of their bullshit as the rest of the world. Cheap North Korean goods and labor, and having a buffer between them and South Korea is the only reason china puts up with them.[/QUOTE] a buffer that barely makes sense today given the two countries financial ties, SK and China are more alike than different
[QUOTE=shad0w440;51593218]If NK launched a nuke, china would nope the fuck out of any protection deals it has with NK faster than you could say "woops" Chinas just as tired of their bullshit as the rest of the world. Cheap North Korean goods and labor, and having a buffer between them and South Korea is the only reason china puts up with them.[/QUOTE] Both China and South Korea have a vested interest in NK staying where it is though, because China doesn't want to deal with the waves of impoverished refugees and any attempt at reunification would destroy SK's economy And nobody else will ever invade or 'liberate' North Korea because we all learned the 'you break it you buy it' lesson from Afghanistan and Iraq. There's no profit in spending decades and countless billions on the uncertain possibility that a country of starving peasants 50 years behind the rest of the world, many of whom believe their leader is a living god, [b]might[/b] be rehabilitated into a peaceful democracy -- and that's after we bomb the piss out of it, destroy what little infrastructure it has, and wreck its existing government. Nobody wants to give that a try and I can't even really blame em
[QUOTE=Damjen;51591996]Even if they develop a nuke they still have no actual means of delivering it anywhere. And if they do somehow manage to hit anything of any importance with their nuclear weapon every other nuclear power that has North Korea in their range would nuke them back to the stone age.[/QUOTE] Why do people say this shit? You do realize having any nuclear warfare, no matter how short, minute, or "outmatched" it is still a major fucking problem for the rest of the world for a long time afterwards. Yeah theyd be annihilated quickly but theyd still have done massive damage and left fallout everywhere
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