Pleasantville, NY cop who killed college student named “Officer of the Year"
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[release]The family of Danroy "D.J." Henry Jr., the popular football player from Easton who was fatally shot by police in New York last year, lashed out today at a New York police union’s decision to give an award to the officer who shot him.
The award was particularly insulting, the family said, because the shooting remains under investigation by the US Department of Justice.
“I’m glad the world gets to see the arrogance we’ve been dealing with since Oct. 17, from the district attorney’s office all the way to the Police Benevolent Association,” said Angella Henry, Danroy Henry's mother. “For us, it’s not a surprise.”
Henry had been playing college football at Pace University and was celebrating the team’s homecoming on Oct. 17 when he was shot outside a bar by Pleasantville police Officer Aaron Hess. Police allege that Henry drove his car into Hess and another officer after refusing to stop. A New York State grand jury declined in February to indict police officers in the shooting.
The Police Benevolent Association, the local union, named Hess as an Officer of the Year at its annual awards ceremony on Friday, according to local media reports. Matthew Listwan, president of the union, did not return a call for comment this morning.
According to lawyers for the Henry family, eyewitness accounts have differed from the police account of the shooting, raising questions about whether it was justified. The lawyers have also questioned whether an impartial investigation was conducted.
The Department of Justice said its civil rights division would investigate the case given the nature of the shooting. That investigation is ongoing, a spokeswoman said this morning.
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[url=http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2011/04/officer_who_sho.html]Source: The Boston Globe[/url]
fuck corrupt people and dumbasses with power
He wasn't convicted of anything yet. Innocent until proven Guilty.
I don't see a problem here.
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Guy above me is a dumbass.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;29155965]He wasn't convicted of anything yet. Innocent until proven Guilty.
I don't see a problem here.
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Guy above me is a dumbass.[/QUOTE]
Not the point. The point is that the department is a bunch of prats, not that he's guilty. And when you give a policeman who is under investigation for [I]killing someone[/I] an award, yeah, you're a fucking bunch of prats and I hope you all fall in a ditch.
i think it's very stupid of the police to shoot him. why couldn't they just call for backup and pull him out of the vehicle? cops in the US are too lazy, and corrupt.
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Well, one could look at the situation and wonder what a cop who shot someone, could do to get an award.
Like maybe they were really good at their job and you could wonder why a really good cop would shoot for a bad reason.
It's not like he was an average cop, who shot someone for a bad reason and won an award.
Or you could also look at it and think that maybe he did a bunch of good deeds as "atonement" for shooting the student, so they gave him an award for his good deeds.
If he's an otherwise great cop I don't see why he shouldn't get it, can definitely understand why the family is upset, though.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29156069]Not the point. The point is that the department is a bunch of prats, not that he's guilty. And when you give a policeman who is under investigation for [I]killing someone[/I] an award, yeah, you're a fucking bunch of prats and I hope you all fall in a ditch.[/QUOTE]
He won the award for being cop of the year, not for shooting the kid. There's no correlation.
[QUOTE=iopoel;29156156]i think it's very stupid of the police to shoot him. why couldn't they just call for backup and pull him out of the vehicle? cops in the US are too lazy, and corrupt.[/QUOTE]
Great idea.
You go out there, join up, and do it.
[QUOTE=Sottalytober;29156186]He won the award for being cop of the year, not for shooting the kid. There's no correlation.[/QUOTE]
are you telling me that the best cop, by far, was the one who killed someone
couldn't have been the departments way of saying "fuck you", no he was just objectively the best in every way except for that single instance in which he killed someone
do you happen to live under something resembling a rock
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[QUOTE=LunchboxOfDoom;29156214]Great idea.
You go out there, join up, and do it.[/QUOTE]
Well that's a pretty unbeatable defense. The Russian police should have used that excuse when they filled that theater with deadly gas killing hundreds of people.
"What, did you want us to actually [I]go in there?[/I] Are you crazy? It's scary as hell, man! If you think it's so wrong to kill people how about you join SWAT, huh?"
"I just shot a college student" cop says
"OFFICER OF THE YEAR RIGHT HERE!!!" everyone else says
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29156296]are you telling me that the best cop, by far, was the one who killed someone
couldn't have been the departments way of saying "fuck you", no he was just objectively the best in every way except for that single instance in which he killed someone[/QUOTE]
He fired at someone who may or may not have almost run over him. If what the report says is true, then he acted appropriately. Police are trained to use deadly force when there is an imminent threat to public or personal safety.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29156296]Well that's a pretty unbeatable defense. The Russian police should have used that excuse when they filled that theater with deadly gas killing hundreds of people.
"What, did you want us to actually [I]go in there?[/I] Are you crazy? It's scary as hell, man! If you think it's so wrong to kill people how about you join SWAT, huh?"[/QUOTE]
Because Russian Police = American Police.
So a college football player goes out for Homecoming night with his team at a bar right? With that in mind, I can imagine the guy getting absolutely plastered with his team mates, jumping into his car, trying to drive home. Obviously, he fails, as the cops ask him to stop (probably in the parking lot) where he refuses. Being drunk, the kid slams into the cop car with his car (assault with a deadly weapon, cops don't like this) and at some point the kid gets shot.
Honestly, I'll leave it to the court to decide who is innocent and who is guilty on this one.
[QUOTE=The Spie;29156531]"I just shot a college student" cop says
"OFFICER OF THE YEAR RIGHT HERE!!!" everyone else says[/QUOTE]
Nope that's not what happened you are incorrect.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29156296]Well that's a pretty unbeatable defense. The Russian police should have used that excuse when they filled that theater with deadly gas killing hundreds of people.[/quote]
The difference here being you're up against a moving vehicle that weighs several thousand pounds and a driver who, since they didn't bother stopping to begin with after you ordered them to, is evidently unpredictable and as well dangerous- that last part stemming from the fact he rammed into them. Really, the comparison you tried to make here is as invalid as it is sparse in relation... and fallacious lol. We'll just wait and see what the court has to say.
[quote=Mr. Scorpio]"What, did you want us to actually [I]go in there?[/I] Are you crazy? It's scary as hell, man! If you think it's so wrong to kill people how about you join SWAT, huh?"[/QUOTE]
That's totally not what I said. But nice try. I think it's really funny when people talk tough, like iopel, yet they never live up to the actions they would still expect others to take. It's kind of hypocritical when you think about it.
I love that raging bit on the people who gave him the award, too. Which, for the record, it wasn't his department that decided whether he got it or not, it was the New York police union's call.
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[QUOTE=BANNED USER;29156580]So a college football player goes out for Homecoming night with his team at a bar right? With that in mind, I can imagine the guy getting absolutely plastered with his team mates, jumping into his car, trying to drive home. Obviously, he fails, as the cops ask him to stop (probably in the parking lot) where he refuses. Being drunk, the kid slams into the cop car with his car (assault with a deadly weapon, cops don't like this) and at some point the kid gets shot.
Honestly, I'll leave it to the court to decide who is innocent and who is guilty on this one.[/QUOTE]
This.
Like the Butcher Bill avatar, too, BTW.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;29156569]He fired at someone who may or may not have almost run over him. If what the report says is true, then he acted appropriately. Police are trained to use deadly force when there is an imminent threat to public or personal safety.[/QUOTE]
lol, I love this excuse. Clear and present danger is really skewed with cops.
[QUOTE=amute;29156810]lol, I love this excuse. Clear and present danger is really skewed with cops.[/QUOTE]
Yeah hitting someone with a car isn't dangerous at all. :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=amute;29156810]lol, I love this excuse. Clear and present danger is really skewed with cops.[/QUOTE]
So if I were to drive at you with my theoretical car right now, and you were a police officer, you wouldn't shoot me? Although shooting me may cause me to lose control and the car to actually accelerate, bringing about your demise even sooner. A better option would be to jump out of the way. But I guess you're not thinking clearly when you're about to die, its okay amute. I don't hate you.
I remember this story from a while ago, the African-American chorus sung racism as always, and I'd actually began to believe it. I didn't hear the other side of the story.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;29157006]Yeah hitting someone with a car isn't dangerous at all. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Not at all, it will just go through the cop because he's a ghost and unable to be harmed by puny mortals.
[QUOTE=Monomiro;29157218]So if I were to drive at you with my theoretical car right now, and you were a police officer, you wouldn't shoot me? Although shooting me may cause me to lose control and the car to actually accelerate, bringing about your demise even sooner. A better option would be to jump out of the way. But I guess you're not thinking clearly when you're about to die, its okay amute. I don't hate you.
I remember this story from a while ago, the African-American chorus sung racism as always, and I'd actually began to believe it. I didn't hear the other side of the story.[/QUOTE]
Even if he did jump out of the way, do you think that car will slowly come to a stop once he's dodged it? An out of control car is a pretty dangerous thing to a LOT of people.
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At first when I read it I though it would have been another unjustified shooting of someone who posed no threat. If the cop's alibi is true then there's no problem. If not then we'll have to see what happens.
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But we also don't know what kind of cop this guy is outside of this incident. Maybe he's usually fair and made a mistake. There's just too few details to come to a good conclusion on who's at fault.
[QUOTE=Monomiro;29157452]I need to read the original story again. I don't think the car was out of control? Maybe Danroy thought they'd get out of the way.[/QUOTE]
[quote]Police allege that Henry drove his car into Hess and another officer after refusing to stop.[/quote]
If didn't listen to them screaming at them at gunpoint "stop your car," and still hit two police officers (who I assume were in their cars), I highly doubt that the guy was in very good control of his car.
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[QUOTE=Monomiro;29157609]Oh I see, makes sense now. It sounds like this is all Danroy's fault.[/QUOTE]
I got it a little backwards though and fixed it, just a little misunderstanding on my part.
[QUOTE=Swilly;29157357]Not at all, it will just go through the cop because he's a ghost and unable to be harmed by puny mortals.[/QUOTE]
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Wow, Probably another cop who deserves that award.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;29156580]So a college football player goes out for Homecoming night with his team at a bar right? With that in mind, I can imagine the guy getting absolutely plastered with his team mates, jumping into his car, trying to drive home. Obviously, he fails, as the cops ask him to stop (probably in the parking lot) where he refuses. Being drunk, the kid slams into the cop car with his car (assault with a deadly weapon, cops don't like this) and at some point the kid gets shot.
Honestly, I'll leave it to the court to decide who is innocent and who is guilty on this one.[/QUOTE]
to be fair, the article does say that the witness accounts are different from the police one, and then there is that cop who got away with killing an elderly, half-deaf wood carver for having a legal-length knife on him.
[QUOTE=Pizza12456;29157768]Wow, Probably another cop who deserves that award.[/QUOTE]
Can you name one? And can you say why this cop is undeserving of it? Just because he killed, allegedly in self defense, a youngster means he hasn't done his job properly, protecting the rights and safety of the people?
[QUOTE=iopoel;29156156]i think it's very stupid of the police to shoot him. why couldn't they just call for backup and pull him out of the vehicle? cops in the US are too lazy, and corrupt.
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This is a hilarious ban.
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