• Nuh uh: Saudi's deploy military on its border with Iraq
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[quote]DUBAI - Saudi Arabia has deployed 30,000 soldiers to its border with Iraq after Iraqi soldiers withdrew from the area, Saudi-owned al-Arabiya television reported Thursday. The world's top oil exporter shares an 500-mile border with Iraq, where Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) insurgents and other Sunni Muslim militant groups seized towns and cities in a lightning advance last month. King Abdullah has ordered all necessary measures to protect the kingdom against potential "terrorist threats," state news agency SPA reported on Thursday. Al-Arabiya said on its website that Saudi troops fanned into the border region after Iraqi government forces abandoned positions, leaving the Saudi and Syrian frontiers unprotected. The satellite channel said it had obtained a video showing some 2,500 Iraqi soldiers in the desert area east of the Iraqi city of Karbala after pulling back from the border. An officer in the video aired by al-Arabiya said that the soldiers had been ordered to quit their posts without justification. The authenticity of the recording could not immediately be verified.[/quote] Jeez, not even the Saudi's will touch them with a stick. [url]http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/iraq-turmoil/saudi-arabia-sends-30-000-troops-iraq-border-state-owned-n147186[/url]
lemme just add this to the list here... -isil -syrian defense force -other syrian rebels -iraqi army -us army -lebanon -iran -jordan -saudi arabia yep its official, its the biggest clusterfuck of this milenium [editline]3rd July 2014[/editline] also which side will they take, because they are our ally and they also are sunni and quite possibly funding ISIL
[QUOTE=Sableye;45287697]yep its official, its the biggest clusterfuck of this milenium[/QUOTE] The award still goes to WW1, and maybe Korea after that.
[QUOTE=Masterofstars;45287712]The award still goes to WW1, and maybe Korea after that.[/QUOTE] wrong millennium literally off by a thousand years in that regard
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;45287717]wrong millennium literally off by a thousand years in that regard[/QUOTE] Fuck I'm retarded I thought it was the 1900's again :I
[QUOTE=Sableye;45287697]lemme just add this to the list here... -isil -syrian defense force -other syrian rebels -iraqi army -us army -lebanon -iran -jordan -saudi arabia yep its official, its the biggest clusterfuck of this milenium [editline]3rd July 2014[/editline] also which side will they take, because they are our ally and they also are sunni and quite possibly funding ISIL[/QUOTE] you forget Israel and Palestine now too. iirc, ISIS took responsibility for the murder of the teens that Israel blamed on Hamas and bombed Palestine over. In response, some Israelis lynched a Palestinian and so now there's riots in Palestine. Shits whack yo
I remember in the game "HomeFront", there were news paper snippets you could collect in the game and one of them talked about how Saudi Arabia invaded Iraq after the US left to "quell rebels", and then Iran got involved and it turned into a massive clusterfuck of a war. I thought that was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard of.
All of this shit in the middle East, North Africa, Persia etc. probably wouldn't have happened if the British and French never carved out terrible borders after WW1 (Sykes–Picot Agreement), if the allies never created Israel by forcing local populations to relocate after WW2 (Zionism) and if the USA and USSR never funded and orchestrated coups in the cold war (Egypt 1952, Iran 1953 which lead to 1979, Afghanistan 1978, there's more)
Worst sociopolitical disaster in recent human history, or greatest inspiration for a multiplayer RTS game?
Oh great, another faction to add to the Great Middle Eastern War. This clusterfuck is getting worse by the hour. Theres a good chance we probably wont see an end to this for a long while.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;45288448]All of this shit in the middle East, North Africa, Persia etc. probably wouldn't have happened if the British and French never carved out terrible borders after WW1 (Sykes–Picot Agreement), if the allies never created Israel by forcing local populations to relocate after WW2 (Zionism) and if the USA and USSR never funded and orchestrated coups in the cold war (Egypt 1952, Iran 1953 which lead to 1979, Afghanistan 1978, there's more)[/QUOTE] The Allies didn't create Israel. Israel created itself out of 4 decades of constant Jewish immigration.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;45289017]The Allies didn't create Israel. Israel created itself out of 4 decades of constant Jewish immigration.[/QUOTE] Oh, I thought that since it was a British mandate that maybe the allies caused it somehow. My bad
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;45289022]Oh, I thought that since it was a British mandate that maybe the allies caused it somehow. My bad[/QUOTE] The British put some help into it, but in the end, Israel declared itself independent and fought all its neighbors to stay that way.
Kind of off topic but what happened to that little Saudi-Iraqi neutral zone over 20 years ago? I still see it on some maps but I don't really know why they got rid of it
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;45288448]All of this shit in the middle East, North Africa, Persia etc. probably wouldn't have happened if the British and French never carved out terrible borders after WW1 (Sykes–Picot Agreement), if the allies never created Israel by forcing local populations to relocate after WW2 (Zionism) and if the USA and USSR never funded and orchestrated coups in the cold war (Egypt 1952, Iran 1953 which lead to 1979, Afghanistan 1978, there's more)[/QUOTE] Sykes-Picot shouldn't be blamed for everything wrong with the Middle East today; the treaty was created nearly a hundred years ago and took existing administrative areas of the Ottoman empire and grouped a small number of them together. The borders they carved out already largely existed. In an alternate history where regions were divided up by cultural and religious differences, do you [I]really[/I] think that would have somehow achieved a peaceful Middle East?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;45289038]The British put some help into it, but in the end, Israel declared itself independent and fought all its neighbors to stay that way.[/QUOTE] The biggest influx of Jews was right after ww2, and Britian handed control of Palestine to the Jewish population, who then in turned took homes and farms from Palestinians. About 700,000 fled or were thrown out of Israel territory. They had literally everything to do with it,
I would be concerned if I were Iraq. over 20% of the Saudi population is the same sect of extremist islamism as ISIS and prominent Saudi Arabians has been funding Al Qaeda and ISIS throughout their Syrian escapades. Imagine the headline: Saudi peacekeepers move into Iraq
[QUOTE=butt2089;45289212]Sykes-Picot shouldn't be blamed for everything wrong with the Middle East today; the treaty was created nearly a hundred years ago and took existing administrative areas of the Ottoman empire and grouped a small number of them together. The borders they carved out already largely existed. In an alternate history where regions were divided up by cultural and religious differences, do you [I]really[/I] think that would have somehow achieved a peaceful Middle East?[/QUOTE] Yes
The crisis in the Middle East is like one big game of bingo. I just need that Hezbollah and Israel team up to defeat ISIS and I've won. [editline]4th July 2014[/editline] Someone should totally make a bingo board for threads like this.
so the Saudis basically created a monster by financing this little shit called ISIS and now its evolved into a hitlerish Caliphate that has claimed that it will take all territories in the Middle East (including Saudi Arabia) by their blitzkrieg tactics gg Saudis, gg
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;45288448]All of this shit in the middle East, North Africa, Persia etc. probably wouldn't have happened if the British and French never carved out terrible borders after WW1 (Sykes–Picot Agreement), if the allies never created Israel by forcing local populations to relocate after WW2 (Zionism) and if the USA and USSR never funded and orchestrated coups in the cold war (Egypt 1952, Iran 1953 which lead to 1979, Afghanistan 1978, there's more)[/QUOTE] [url=http://gulfanalysis.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/dammit-it-is-not-unravelling-an-historians-rebuke-to-misrepresentations-of-sykes-picot/]Sykes-Picot is continually apportioned a disproportionate amount of blame.[/url]
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;45288382]I remember in the game "HomeFront", there were news paper snippets you could collect in the game and one of them talked about how Saudi Arabia invaded Iraq after the US left to "quell rebels", and then Iran got involved and it turned into a massive clusterfuck of a war. I thought that was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard of.[/QUOTE] Best Korea will grow larger
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;45289233]The biggest influx of Jews was right after ww2, and Britian handed control of Palestine to the Jewish population, who then in turned took homes and farms from Palestinians. About 700,000 fled or were thrown out of Israel territory. They had literally everything to do with it,[/QUOTE] The biggest influx is irrelevant, they still had to have immigration before WWII to set up a structure of Jewish government beforehand. The British handed over control to the Jewish population because the Jewish population was shooting at the British as much as they were shooting at Arabs. By the day the British officially left Palestine, they had only controlled a small section of the major cities in Tel Aviv and [iirc] Jerusalem. The UK didn't hand over control, it was taken away and they didn't care much to get it back.
snip. pulled info out of my ass
I think its time scandinavians jumped off the edges of their countries and pushed them over to iceland
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;45294686]I think its time scandinavians jumped off the edges of their countries and pushed them over to iceland[/QUOTE]Are you... are you in the right thread, buddy?
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