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[b]Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said his country will implement further sanctions against Israel.[/b]
The threat follows the expulsion of Israel's ambassador over its refusal to apologise for the 2010 raid on a flotilla of activists heading for Gaza, in which nine Turks were killed.
A UN report has concluded that Israel used "excessive force" in its raid, but that the naval blockade was legal.
Turkey has vowed to take the case to the International Court of Justice.
Mr Erdogan said Turkey was "totally suspending" defence industry ties with Israel, after downgrading diplomatic relations with the country.
"Trade ties, military ties, regarding defence industry ties, we are completely suspending them," he told reporters in Ankara. "This process will be followed by different measures."
Turkey expelled the Israeli ambassador on 2 September and also suspended military co-operation with Israel last week.
Israel has expressed regret for the loss of lives.
But Mr Erdogan described the raid as "savagery" and accused Israel of acting like "a spoiled boy" in the region.
Based in The Hague, the ICJ is a permanent UN court set up to rule on state-to-state disputes.
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Source: [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14800305?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter[/url]
I think we should've been sorry at the start,I mean Turkey is one of our best friends in the middle east.
Good.
Finally somebody said to Israeli leadership that they are acting like childrens.
[QUOTE]But Mr Erdogan described the raid as "savagery" and accused Israel of acting like "a spoiled boy" in the region.[/QUOTE]
No one could say it better than this, it is completely true.
About damn time.
Hang on, since when did the UN say the blockade was legal?
I thought this was about a legitimate Turkey :v:
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;32145860]Hang on, since when did the UN say the blockade was legal?[/QUOTE]
A week ago, was even posted here.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;32145860]Hang on, since when did the UN say the blockade was legal?[/QUOTE]They didn't declare the blockade was legal. They stated so themselves.
[release][B]The report noted that the panel did not have the power to compel testimony or demand documents, but instead had to rely on information provided by Israel and Turkey[/B]. Therefore, its conclusions can [B]not be considered definitive in either fact or law[/B].[/release]
[release] In particular, the Panel’s means of obtaining information were through diplomatic channels. [B]The Panel enjoyed no coercive powers to compel witnesses to provide evidence.[/B] [B]It could not conduct criminal investigations.[/B] The Panel was required to obtain its information from the two nations primarily involved in its inquiry, Turkey and Israel, and other affected States. The position is thoroughly understandable in the context of the Panel’s inquiry but the limitation is important. It means that the Panel cannot make definitive findings either of fact or law. But it can give its view.[/release]
It states the material examined was simply information submitted by Turkey and Israel. It was not an analysis of facts but rather an amalgamation of Turkish reports and Israeli reports - there was no investigation at all.
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The Panel reviewed these reports and further information and clarifications it received in written form and through direct meetings with Points of Contact appointed by each government. In light of the information so gathered, the Panel has examined and identified the facts, circumstances and context of the incident and considered and recommended ways of avoiding similar incidents in the future. [B]In so doing it was not acting as a Court and was not asked to adjudicate on legal liability. [/B]Its findings and recommendations are therefore not intended to attribute any legal responsibilities. Nevertheless, the Panel hopes that its report may resolve the issues surrounding the incident and bring the matter to an end.
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The Panel’s Method of Work provided that the Panel was to operate by consensus, but where, despite best efforts, it was not possible to achieve consensus, the Chair and Vice-Chair could agree on any procedural issue, finding or recommendation. This report has been adopted on the agreement of the Chair and Vice-Chair under that procedure.[/B][/I]
So this is the result for Israel not forgiving the acts behind the Ships to Gaza?
I still think Israel have all rights to defend themselves and check the contains of the ships.
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;32147726]So this is the result for Israel not forgiving the acts behind the Ships to Gaza?
I still think Israel have all rights to defend themselves and check the contains of the ships.[/QUOTE]
I love how you think this has anything to do with Israel wanting to defend itself.
I think it´s more related to Israel's attempts at genocide.
Turkey is doing an excellent job of drawing the attention away from their own massive corruption and racism.
I have to applaud the tactic. It really is quite brilliant.
How about the US stops funding both of you? You are all spoiled goddamn children.
[QUOTE=DiCiSpitfire;32144973]I think we should've been sorry at the start,[B]I mean Turkey is one of our best friends in the middle east.[/B][/QUOTE]
Not anymore.
[QUOTE=GunFox;32148384]Turkey is doing an excellent job of drawing the attention away from their own massive corruption and racism.
I have to applaud the tactic. It really is quite brilliant.
How about the US stops funding both of you? You are all spoiled goddamn children.[/QUOTE]
Well that would help the budget cut someway.
[QUOTE=DiCiSpitfire;32144973]I think we should've been sorry at the start,I mean Turkey is one of our best friends in the middle east.[/QUOTE]
Considering you're essentially the only Israeli I have ever seen posting on Facepunch, would you mind answering a few questions? I promise that they would be completely free of any bias what so ever, they're just curiosity questions.
[editline]6th September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=GunFox;32148384]Turkey is doing an excellent job of drawing the attention away from their own massive corruption and racism.
I have to applaud the tactic. It really is quite brilliant.
How about the US stops funding both of you? You are all spoiled goddamn children.[/QUOTE]
We complain and moan about our own budget issues, and yet we seem to be funding everyone and their mother. I don't get it.
[QUOTE=GunFox;32148384]
How about the US stops funding both of you? You are all spoiled goddamn children.[/QUOTE]The U.S. doesn't fund Turkey. Unless you're counting the Marshall Plan and the Truman Doctrine (both discontinued) which was decades ago to combat communism.
[QUOTE=GunFox;32148384]Turkey is doing an excellent job of drawing the attention away from their own massive corruption and racism.
I have to applaud the tactic. It really is quite brilliant.[/quote]Seriously? Are you really calling Turkey standing up to Israel a diversion of their own corruption? They're not currently in some massive scandal at the moment and decided to call out Israel to distract everyone.
By your logic, the U.S. among other nations draw attention away from their own corruption and human rights issues whenever they criticize X nation.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;32150906]The U.S. doesn't fund Turkey. Unless you're counting the Marshall Plan and the Truman Doctrine which was decades ago and discontinued.
Seriously? Are you really calling Turkey standing up to Israel a diversion of their own corruption? They're not currently in some massive scandal at the moment and decided to call out Israel to distract everyone.
By your logic, the U.S. among other nations draw attention away from their own corruption and human rights issues whenever they criticize X nation.[/QUOTE]
Nah, we just sell arms to them. Specifically naval vessels. Which they are now going to use to break the blockade of another ally.
I suppose on the flip side, we could just sell arms to both sides of the conflict.
hmm...you are right, I actually like this plan better.
"Hey Israel, they have boats. You might want to buy some harpoon anti ship missiles!"
"Hey Turkey, I heard from a good source that Israel has some harpoon ant ship missiles, you might want to buy this phalanx CIWS system for your boats!"
"Hey Israel, I hear they have CIWS systems, you might want to buy this block II system for your harpoons!"
"Hey Turkey...."
WE WILL BE RICH! Being an arms dealer is fun!
[QUOTE=Starpluck;32150906]Seriously? Are you really calling Turkey standing up to Israel a diversion of their own corruption? They're not currently in some massive scandal at the moment and decided to call out Israel to distract everyone.
By your logic, the U.S. among other nations draw attention away from their own corruption and human rights issues whenever they criticize X nation.[/QUOTE]
Well, you see the current government is well-known to be corrupt, also known as using religion to stay in power. But since this whole Israel thing, Tayyip Erdogan started gaining more support from people. The corruption and racism is, in fact, a really massive problem here in Turkey.
[editline]6th September 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=GunFox;32151126]Nah, we just sell arms to them. Specifically naval vessels. Which they are now going to use to break the blockade of another ally.
I suppose on the flip side, we could just sell arms to both sides of the conflict.
hmm...you are right, I actually like this plan better.
"Hey Israel, they have boats. You might want to buy some harpoon anti ship missiles!"
"Hey Turkey, I heard from a good source that Israel has some harpoon ant ship missiles, you might want to buy this phalanx CIWS system for your boats!"
"Hey Israel, I hear they have CIWS systems, you might want to buy this block II system for your harpoons!"
"Hey Turkey...."
WE WILL BE RICH! Being an arms dealer is fun![/QUOTE]
Turkey used to buy Unmanned Air Vehicles from Israel before this crisis
Way to go Isreal on alienating your only friend in the region.
[img]http://www.aydinca.com/depo/Ne-Mutlu-Turkum-Diyene.jpg[/img]
Go turkey :)
[QUOTE=cNova;32151168][img]http://www.aydinca.com/depo/Ne-Mutlu-Turkum-Diyene.jpg[/img]
Go turkey :)[/QUOTE]
That looks like a chocolate ad.
Turkish delights.
[QUOTE=cNova;32151168][img]http://www.aydinca.com/depo/Ne-Mutlu-Turkum-Diyene.jpg[/img]
Go turkey :)[/QUOTE]
Looks shopped
[QUOTE=cNova;32151168][img]http://www.aydinca.com/depo/Ne-Mutlu-Turkum-Diyene.jpg[/img]
Go turkey :)[/QUOTE]
Looks like the Unreal Engine.
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