[quote]It started, as many days do in Greece, with a trip to the kiosk to buy cigarettes. Still half-asleep, Panayiotis Roumeliotis was surprised to be asked to show his identity card by two young men with shaved heads. It was his first direct contact with the vigilante groups that have become a feature of everyday life in some areas of the Greek capital.
"They were calling themselves the residents association but they were just fasistakia (little fascists)," said the 28-year-old.
Over the last two years, Mr Roumeliotis has watched the central Athens neighbourhood of Ayios Panteleimonas, where he grew up, undergo an ugly transformation. Taking the bus on another morning soon after, a gunshot shattered the back window and a gang of men forced the driver to stop. When the doors opened, they came on to the bus and started to assault the non-Greek passengers. The attackers were wearing T-shirts from the right-wing extremist group Golden Dawn. While panicked people were trying to escape from the bus the men were hitting them with flagpoles.
"They were beating people with the Greek flag," said Mr Roumeliotis.
When the police arrived they stood off until the thugs had finished. When he asked the police why no one had been arrested one of the officers replied to him: "Why, did they do something to you?"
Formerly a solid middle-class neighbourhood, the economic crisis and waves of new arrivals have changed the area and erased old certainties.
Property prices here have dropped to as little as one quarter of what they were five years ago. The Greeks who could afford to have left. For rent signs are plastered over almost every one of the area's shabby five-storey apartment blocks. On the side streets among the North African-run mini markets and Nigerian internet cafes, newcomers from West Africa push shopping trolleys full of scrap metal stripped from deserted buildings. Large-scale drug dealing has overtaken an entire street in the neighbourhood. Violent crime has rocketed.
The square in front of the local church, daubed in anti-immigrant slogans such as "foreigners don't fit in our square", has witnessed pitch battles between anarchists and Golden Dawn supporters.
Among the Greeks who remain, Mr Roumeliotis' own circumstances are fairly typical. He was made redundant from the "job for life" that his grandfather had got for him at the state-run airline Olympic Airways. Of his 10 closest friends, eight are unemployed.
Anger against the socialists and the conservatives, who have swapped power since the end of the dictatorship in 1974, has been building to unprecedented proportions. The former airline steward said he would not be supporting the fascists himself, but that other family members may well be doing so.
"People here have been forgotten by the government," said Mr Roumeliotis. "They have done nothing about immigration." The skinheads are now talked of as "good boys" who are looking out for their community.What was happening in Ayios Panteleimonas – which has the highest concentration of immigrants in Athens – came to the attention of the rest of Greece when members of Golden Dawn were voted on to its local council.
Until recently, developments in the neighbourhood were seen as dangerous but largely irrelevant to the national scene. At Greece's last general election in 2009 Golden Dawn, whose members use the Nazi salute and whose party symbol is an adapted swastika, polled fewer than 20,000 votes nationwide. Now as the country goes to the polls on Sunday, national politics more closely resemble those of the embattled area.
Entering its fourth year in recession, Greece now outstrips even Spain for youth unemployment with the new statistics published yesterday showing joblessness among the under-25s at 51.2 per cent. The headline unemployment rate is 21.7 per cent while the real rate is believed to be closer to 25 per cent.
It's in this environment that a fringe group of neo-Nazis that would previously have struggled to attract a hundred supporters to one of its rallies seems set to enter parliament according to polls.
Together with two other ultra-nationalist parties, LAOS and Independent Greeks, some surveys indicate that the far right could take as much as one-fifth of the vote on Sunday.
Under Greek law no surveys of voter intentions can be published in the fortnight before the election but unpublished polls conducted by the major political parties have been giving Golden Dawn a steady five per cent, with one poll predicting eight per cent. The threshold for entering the 300-seat parliament is three per cent and under Greece's convoluted electoral laws that could give them somewhere between eight to 12 MPs.
One of the new lawmakers is likely to be Elias Panayiotaros. A candidate for central Athens, he runs a shop called Phalanx selling military gear. His business card features a Byzantine eagle and a skull and crossbones. Speaking at the party's offices opposite the Larrisis train station where volunteers do weekly handouts of clothes and food to "needy Greeks", Mr Panayiotaros said that the priority in the midst of the economic crisis was to throw out foreigners. "All of the immigrants are illegal, even the ones that have been in the country for a long time and they have to be punished," he said.
Greeks were afraid to leave their homes as immigrants were on a spree of robberies, rapes and murder, he said. The cost of jailing or deporting more than a million people would be offset, he said, by putting them into work camps. Those that were not prepared to work would not be given food, he added.
Another priority would be the immediate closure of all foreign non-governmental organisations, which would be compelled to return all funds to the Greek state. A new organisation would be established, he said, to be called "doctors with borders" which would provide medical services exclusively to Greeks.
Once Greece was withdrawn from the EU's passport-free Schengen zone and the borders were sealed, all foreigners would require a visa to visit Greece, including the millions of tourists who come each year.
"We're not afraid to be called Nazis or fascists – the whole political system is against us," said Mr Panayiotaros. Appeals by mainstream parties for Golden Dawn to be prevented from entering parliament were met with veiled threats against MPs.
Asked about the party leader Nikos Michaloliakos' links to the military junta which ruled Greece between 1967-1974, he said that people were calling for the return of George Papadopoulos, the leader of the Colonel's regime.
"The name of Papadopoulos is being heard everywhere," he said.
Ahead of its most uncertain election, the Golden Dawn's message is getting through to some first-time voters such as Ioanna Vassila, who is unemployed. Attending a political rally for the first time in her life, the 29-year-old said she was excited to be voting for a patriotic party and that it was time to for Greece to be "cleansed of the foreigners". Laughing and joking with her boyfriend they applauded as men in paramilitary uniforms waved black flags and chanted "Greece for the Greeks".[/quote]
Well Jesus Christ. [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/fascism-rises-from-the-depths-of-greeces-despair-7712276.html[/url]
"We're not afraid to be called Nazis or fascists – the whole political system is against us,"
Oh hey look, a majority with a persecution complex.
How unusual.
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This is so fucked up beyond all imagination.
haha we arent nazis, we just think red and black eagles are bitchin and all darkies should go
It's a good thing that in this day and age we can always look for a scapegoat.
This is... unsettling.
Why can't people just enjoy life. no reason to get angry and bald...
I read a bit about the clashes between anarchists and Golden Dawn earlier. I knew Fascism was increasing but not to this amount.
Not really surprising. Countries in economical crisis tend towards authoritarianism very commonly.
Kind of ironic since ancient Greece was the founder of modern democracy.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;35828884]Kind of ironic since ancient Greece was the founder of modern democracy.[/QUOTE]
...No it wasn't?
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[I]Athens[/I] was the place where the [I]idea[/I] for democracy stems from, but Athenian Democracy was tyrannical in its own sense.
The entire situation in Greece is a joke.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35828894]...No it wasn't?
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[I]Athens[/I] was the place where the [I]idea[/I] for democracy stems from, but Athenian Democracy was tyrannical in its own sense.[/QUOTE]
Oh you know what he meant it's still ironic.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;35828884]Kind of ironic since ancient Greece was the founder of modern democracy.[/QUOTE]
uh no your thinking of america
[QUOTE=Swebonny;35828915]The entire situation in Greece is a joke.[/QUOTE]
I want to retire at age 30 too!
[QUOTE=Lankist;35828922]uh no your thinking of america[/QUOTE]
Have you ever seen the inside of a higher school?
[QUOTE=Bomimo;35828854]Why can't people just enjoy life. no reason to get angry and bald...[/QUOTE]
As long as people exist we will hate each other.
[QUOTE=DrLuke;35828946]Have you ever seen the inside of a higher school?[/QUOTE]
really?
[QUOTE=DrLuke;35828946]Have you ever seen the inside of a higher school?[/QUOTE]
Lankist is some law school dude if I'm right. So yes.
[QUOTE=DrLuke;35828946]Have you ever seen the inside of a higher school?[/QUOTE]
I would ask the same of you. The USA was the birthplace of the style and form of modern democratic/republican political systems. Although those ideas had been bouncing around for 100 or so years, the USA was the first to fully implement them.
Except maybe the Romans, but even then, their style didn't give direct representation to the average man IIRC.
[QUOTE=DrLuke;35828946]Have you ever seen the inside of a higher school?[/QUOTE]
No, I went to school in Denver.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35828974]I would ask the same of you. The USA was the birthplace of the style and form of modern democratic/republican political systems. Although those ideas had been bouncing around for 100 or so years, the USA was the first to fully implement them.[/QUOTE]
i was being facetious don't defend me
[QUOTE=SatansSin;35828948]As long as people exist we will hate each other.[/QUOTE]
Yeah i know but god. Why focus your entire life on being a dick and screwing people. I'll never understand.
also the US stole its democratic systems from British parliament. All we did was add a president and also say black people were 3/5ths of people.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35828992]also the US stole its democratic systems from British parliament. All we did was add a president and also say black people were 3/5ths of people.[/QUOTE]
The British Parliament wasn't representative of the people at that time IIRC. Parliament was still controlled by nobility wasn't it?
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Maybe I'm wrong, but that's what I remember from my history classes and books and shit.
Parliament was representative. The colonists even had a representative there, although they were still dissatisfied with how effective their representative was (i.e. not at all.) I don't remember exactly but I also believe the colonial representative was appointed rather than elected.
But yeah, British Parliament was elected in whole or part since, like, 1200 CE. Though suffrage was not universal. One had to have money to his name (40 shillings?) and/or property to vote.
Also, by the time the revolution rolled around, the treaty (i forget the name) establishing an english bill of rights (before ours) and making parliament the most powerful governing force in the nation [I]above[/I] royalty had been in effect. The king really wasn't all that important, he was just a super easy dude to blame shit on.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35829073]Parliament was representative. The colonists even had a representative there, although they were still dissatisfied with how effective their representative was (i.e. not at all.) I don't remember exactly but I also believe the colonial representative was appointed rather than elected.
But yeah, British Parliament was elected in whole or part since, like, 1200 CE. Though suffrage was not universal. One had to have money to his name (40 shillings?) and/or property to vote.[/QUOTE]
That's probably what I was thinking of then.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;35828884]Kind of ironic since ancient Greece was the founder of modern democracy.[/QUOTE]
Sparta was pretty much the first fascist state.
[quote]Once Greece was withdrawn from the EU's passport-free Schengen zone and the borders were sealed, all foreigners would require a visa to visit Greece, including the millions of tourists who come each year.[/quote]
Brilliant thing to do when the country's economy is in the shitter
[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];35828873']I read a bit about the clashes between anarchists and Golden Dawn earlier. I knew Fascism was increasing but not to this amount.[/QUOTE]
It is, sadly. But the fascists are routinely outnumbered by communists and anarchists. When has the golden dawn ever had a rally as big as the may day marches? I think even just KKE alone could do it.
Fascists have the edge in the vote, but that doesn't mean much. Liberals have a firm hold on the government and the communists hold street power (and an electorate that rivals the fascists), those greek boneheads are stuck in between. They have no future.
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