5 dead in school shooting in Canada - Polidicks

[QUOTE]TORONTO (AP) - Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says 5 dead, 2 others injured in school shooting in Saskatchewan.[/QUOTE] Working on a link for source but I'm on mobile [url]http://abcnews.go.com/International/canadian-school-put-lockdown-amid-reports-shooting/story?id=36457082[/url] [editline]22nd January 2016[/editline] Suspect is in custody by the way. The school was a K-12 school in La Loche, an aboriginal community in Saskatchewan.

[QUOTE=Bomber9900;49587032] Suspect is in custody by the way. .[/QUOTE] Thank christ, what the fuck motivated the dude?

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49587195]Thank christ, what the fuck motivated the dude?[/QUOTE] There tends to be a lot of troubled people in the aboriginal communities. It's unfortunate.

[QUOTE=No_Excuses;49587317]There tends to be a lot of troubled people in the aboriginal communities. It's unfortunate.[/QUOTE] What do you mean by that? Legit curious as I'm sure Canada didn't treat its natives the same way the US did

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49587337]What do you mean by that? Legit curious as I'm sure Canada didn't treat its natives the same way the US did[/QUOTE] No, we still displaced them and took their land.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49587337]What do you mean by that? [B]Legit curious as I'm sure Canada didn't treat its natives the same way the US did[/B][/QUOTE] Hahaha wow. Nah we're about as bad, remember the Beothuk? Didn't think so.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49587337]What do you mean by that? Legit curious as I'm sure Canada didn't treat its natives the same way the US did[/QUOTE] [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Indian_residential_school_system[/url] Priests raped, killed, and tortured aboriginal children and no one knew about it because it was kept secret. Those who were not killed during these schools took to alcoholism and/or suicide among aboriginal peoples.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49587337]What do you mean by that? Legit curious as I'm sure Canada didn't treat its natives the same way the US did[/QUOTE] the residential school system affected, and is still affecting, generations of aboriginals. aboriginal children were taken, usually forcefully, from their homes and communities and sent to these schools to effectively "educate the Indian out." the sad reality is they were mostly centers of sexual, mental and physical abuse among other things like food or shelter deprivation. the last residential school closed in 1996 and started sometime in the mid 1800s. on top of that, aboriginal reserves have usually been victim of much poverty and systemic racism against them is still very much alive and well. a lot of steps have been taken in recent years to improve relationships with the first nations peoples but there's still a lot of resentment and prejudice harbored between all sides. on top of taking their land.

[QUOTE=No_Excuses;49587317]There tends to be a lot of troubled people in the aboriginal communities. It's unfortunate.[/QUOTE] For any non-canadians (and probably some canadians sadly) who want to know why, look into residential schools. The mortality rates and trauma from disease and assault (both physical and sexual) is horrifying. They closed a fair amount of time ago but you rarely make it out of that without issues and a kid being raised by troubled parents has a hard time not being at least a bit troubled as well.

Good christ, that's fucking horrid

Canada did not wage an Indian war in the west but the assimilation efforts were quite awful.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49587337]What do you mean by that? Legit curious as I'm sure Canada didn't treat its natives the same way the US did[/QUOTE] both live in closed communities with not great education, drug abuse, and not very much in terms of wealth

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49587337]What do you mean by that? Legit curious as I'm sure Canada didn't treat its natives the same way the US did[/QUOTE] Pretty much every colonial power treated the natives like shit. [b]Edit:[/b] Hell, we wiped out every aborigine in Tasmania.

Someone on reddit who says their brother works at the school says the shooter killed their family at home and went to the school with a shotgun.

Should be interesting to see True Dat respond to this.

I'll say Americans are alot more vocal and talk about the horrible shit their ancestors did in the past while in many other countries it's played down. The shit we did from Ireland and Africa to India and China for over a century makes what the Americans did look like child's play. Not only is the horrible shit never taught in school, over half of Brits admire the Empire and think it was awesome as fuck.

[QUOTE=Britain;49587632]Should be interesting to see True Dat respond to this.[/QUOTE] If what I hear is correct, there will be few if any political repercussions from this. I hear it was a shotgun, and it was likely stored illegally by the shooter's father.

I'm sorry I was so ignorant about the earlier part in regards to Canada's treatment of natives, I didn't know

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;49587696]If what I hear is correct, there will be few if any political repercussions from this. I hear it was a shotgun, and it was likely stored illegally by the shooter's father.[/QUOTE] Doesn't matter with politicians. Something HAS to be done. These victims must be canonized with a new law that probably wouldn't have had any effect, but makes the self righteous feel....righteous.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;49587728]god forbid they have a law where people have to store their guns securely or something[/QUOTE] iirc they already do

Isn't this extremely rare in Canada? Bet the gun laws will still get tightened up cause of knee-jerking politicians.

[QUOTE=RichyZ;49587728]god forbid they have a law where people have to store their guns securely or something[/QUOTE] That's already law. It certainly didn't stop this. That law is also literally never levied against criminals. The most controversial use of our storage laws was carging someone who defended his house against firebombers with unsafe storage, effectively meaning the governmemt was trying to tell him that he should have been burned to death rather than have been able to load his pistol to protect himself. The charges were eventually thrown out, but not before the man ended up $70,000 in debt fighting them.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49587337]What do you mean by that? Legit curious as I'm sure Canada didn't treat its natives the same way the US did[/QUOTE] A common occurrence a while back in Ontario was the natives getting restless in the Tyendinaga Reserve and stopping all trains that passed by the area / blockading the tracks. Lead by one guy that decided to go SJW "Give our land back, government" with enough charisma to get a handful of the community to join him. [editline]22nd January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Orkel;49587765]Isn't this extremely rare in Canada? Bet the gun laws will still get tightened up cause of knee-jerking politicians.[/QUOTE] Yeah, rather rare for something in Saskatchewan to happen :v: [sp]Seriously though, it is rare[/sp] Not sure about the tightening regulations though. He was of aboriginal descent.

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[QUOTE=RichyZ;49587728]god forbid they have a law where people have to store their guns securely or something[/QUOTE] This is what is wrong with so many people involved in politics. Something MUST BE DONE. It doesn't matter if those exact laws already exist and didn't stop it, it just means not enough was done. More laws must be passed. Keep tightening that noose. When someone breaks that law, just add more.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;49587707]I'm sorry I was so ignorant about the earlier part in regards to Canada's treatment of natives, I didn't know[/QUOTE] Because of the stereotype that we're all nice I guess most people just assume that we didn't/don't treat the natives like crap.

[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;49587859]Because of the stereotype that we're all nice I guess most people just assume that we didn't/don't treat the natives like crap.[/QUOTE] Well also that we're always told about how we managed to grind the natives into dust and how bad the US continued to treat natives up till the 80s/90s. We aren't taught about anybody else

[QUOTE=GrizzlyBear;49587661]I'll say Americans are alot more vocal and talk about the horrible shit their ancestors did in the past while in many other countries it's played down. The shit we did from Ireland and Africa to India and China for over a century makes what the Americans did look like child's play. Not only is the horrible shit never taught in school, over half of Brits admire the Empire and think it was awesome as fuck.[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you even talking about? Care to cite that claim? When Niall Ferguson wrote in [i]Empire[/i] that he thought that the empire was not one hundred percent bad and that it was the best of the European empires, there was outrage. How does this fit with your absurd claim that we ignore what happened when in every school there is a Black History Month? It doesn't make any sense. You've invented a narrative that you're surrounded by a bunch of uninformed racists in order to feel a self-righteous glow. In regards to the story, I would be interested in what exactly the Canadian government should do to try to help the Aboriginal peoples. And whether they are doing anything substantial at the moment.

[QUOTE=DaCommie1;49587785]That's already law. It certainly didn't stop this. That law is also literally never levied against criminals. The most controversial use of our storage laws was carging someone who defended his house against firebombers with unsafe storage, effectively meaning the governmemt was trying to tell him that he should have been burned to death rather than have been able to load his pistol to protect himself. The charges were eventually thrown out, but not before the man ended up $70,000 in debt fighting them.[/QUOTE] Another reasons Americans defend their gun rights so valiantly. The idea that I'm not allowed to be safe in my own home is horrible. Although that's just as much as the Government's attitude as well, like places where you're not allowed to defend yourself with weapons if the attacker doesn't have a weapon, or even not allowed to defend yourself [I]at all[/I] (duty to retreat laws).

[QUOTE=Daemon White;49587809] Lead by one guy that [B]decided to go SJW[/B] "Give our land back, government" with enough charisma to get a handful of the community to join him. [/QUOTE] your use of 'SJW' here doesn't even make sense. why is it such a boogeyman word to SH?