Shillary Clinton 'alarmed' over calls for Israel boycott, urges bi-partisan action days after meetin - Polidicks

[quote]U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton expressed her alarm last week over the anti-Israel Boycott, Divestment and Sanction movement, and said countering it was a priority that stretches "across party lines," vowing to always "stand up for Israel" if she becomes president. In a July 2 letter sent to Israeli-American businessman Haim Saban – a major donor and fundraiser for Clinton – she stressed the need to counter the BDS campaign "with information and advocacy" and to "fight back against further attempts to delegitimize Israel."[/quote] [url]http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.664694[/url] [url]https://archive.is/3t8VG[/url] [url]http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/hillary-clinton-jewish-donors-israel-119705.html[/url] (Donor story) [quote]Hillary Clinton is privately signaling to wealthy Jewish donors that — no matter the result of the Iranian nuclear negotiations — she will be a better friend to Israel than President Barack Obama.[/quote] [quote]The negotiations are of intense interest for some Jewish donors whose political giving is animated by their support for Israel. They’re being counted on by Clinton’s allies to donate huge sums for a campaign and a pair of supportive super PACs that, [b]taken together, are expected to raise $2 billion or more.[/b][/quote] Probably another reason for Bernie to be the democratic runner, less likely to stifle free speech (Anti-boycott laws) for campaign donations.

Because money can whitewash Israel's bad deeds. I don't think the US should outright boycot them, but there's very questionable aparthide shit they're doing

[QUOTE]Shillary Clinton[/QUOTE] a new low. I dislike her too but come on. BDS has links to extremists.

Did you go to /pol/ to get that title?

[QUOTE=download;48136624]Did you go to /pol/ to get that title?[/QUOTE] You heard it here first, folks, /pol/ invented racism and the word 'shill'.

[QUOTE=Svinnik;48136593]a new low. I dislike her too but come on. BDS has links to extremists.[/QUOTE] She's a shill without question, its not coincidental that she got "alarmed" over BDS after meeting wealthy donors who are obviously against it just three days earlier. Even if you're anti-BDS, you've got to be really concerned with how easily people with deep pockets can control her. Just wait until the anti-net neutrality folk get a hold of her with their wallets.

[QUOTE=Lamar;48136645]She's a shill without question, its not coincidental that she got "alarmed" over BDS after meeting wealthy donors who are obviously against it just three days earlier. Even if you're anti-BDS, you've got to be really concerned how easily people with deep pockets can control her.[/QUOTE] welcome to political pork man. it's pretty common

[QUOTE=Lamar;48136645]She's a shill without question, its not coincidental that she got "alarmed" over BDS after meeting wealthy donors who are obviously against it three days earlier.[/QUOTE] Breaking news: Politician hears about issue and then takes stance on that issue. If that's what shilling has come to then the word has truly lost all meaning

[QUOTE]"is a vibrant democracy in a region dominated by autocracy, and it faces existential threats to its survival."[/QUOTE] You guys also support(ed) those very same autocracies, Saudi Arabia, etc.

[QUOTE=CapellanCitizen;48136652]Breaking news: Politician hears about issue and then takes stance on that issue. If that's what shilling has come to then the word has truly lost all meaning[/QUOTE] Whether or not you disagree that she's only doing this because donors paid her a massive amount of money to do it, you're being extremely nonsensical to ignore the entire point which is the involvement of money in the decision making.

[QUOTE=CapellanCitizen;48136652]Breaking news: Politician hears about issue and then takes stance on that issue. If that's what shilling has come to then the word has truly lost all meaning[/QUOTE] Its not a town-hall meeting where opposing sides are present, its a behind close doors meeting with lots of money involved and then making a "stance" on the issue.

[QUOTE=CapellanCitizen;48136652]Breaking news: Politician hears about issue and then takes stance on that issue. If that's what shilling has come to then the word has truly lost all meaning[/QUOTE]Can you point to a specific instance where her political stance was contrary to that of wealthy campaign donors? If she has donors that do not disagree with any of her stated political goals then that's either extremely rare or she's bought and paid for. I hope our first woman president will be one who can restore people's faith, not make them distrust the government further.

[QUOTE=CapellanCitizen;48136652]Breaking news: Politician hears about issue and then takes stance on that issue. If that's what shilling has come to then the word has truly lost all meaning[/QUOTE] If American politicians "heard," they would not be taking the pro-Israeli stance. America has no special and unique enlightening knowledge that all its other major allies somehow failed to possess -- other than a jammed Israeli lobby which like a thorn, is difficult to remove.

[QUOTE=download;48136624]Did you go to /pol/ to get that title?[/QUOTE] It's Lamar, he [i]is[/i] /pol/. And Clinton just does whatever the focus groups tell her to, they said that this would get votes so she did it, that's why I can't stand either of them because they'll flip flop stances three times a day based on what the marketing department said.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48136838]It's Lamar, he [i]is[/i] /pol/. And Clinton just does whatever the focus groups tell her to, they said that this would get votes so she did it, that's why I can't stand either of them because they'll flip flop stances three times a day based on what the marketing department said.[/QUOTE] Don't change what happened, this isn't about focus groups or getting votes. This is her whoring herself for a shitload of expectant campaign money from wealthy donors. She's not going to flip-flop on this, unless someone else offers her even more money.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48136838]It's Lamar, he [i]is[/i] /pol/. And Clinton just does whatever the focus groups tell her to, they said that this would get votes so she did it, that's why I can't stand either of them because they'll flip flop stances three times a day based on what the marketing department said.[/QUOTE] Every self-professed liberal should be made to listen to her gay-marriage flip-flop. Sure its years but still pretty radical.

[QUOTE=Lamar;48136959]Don't change what happened, this isn't about focus groups or getting votes. This is her whoring herself for a shitload of expectant campaign money from wealthy donors. She's not going to flip-flop on this, unless someone else offers her even more money.[/QUOTE] [I]Every politician does this.[/I]

[QUOTE=Svinnik;48136989][I]Every politician does this.[/I][/QUOTE] Not like a right wing democrat does.

[QUOTE=Lamar;48136645]She's a shill without question, its not coincidental that she got "alarmed" over BDS after meeting wealthy donors who are obviously against it just three days earlier. Even if you're anti-BDS, you've got to be really concerned with how easily people with deep pockets can control her. Just wait until the anti-net neutrality folk get a hold of her with their wallets.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Starpluck;48136825]If American politicians "heard," they would not be taking the pro-Israeli stance.[/QUOTE] "everyone that disagrees with me is corrupt, a shill, and stupid!!! beware of the israelluminati!!" holy shit you guys sound exactly like /pol/

[QUOTE=Svinnik;48136593]a new low. I dislike her too but come on. BDS has links to extremists.[/QUOTE] that's a bold claim that you need to prove

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48136838]It's Lamar, he [i]is[/i] /pol/.[/QUOTE] have you ever, like, actually read /pol/? if you think lamar is /pol/ incarnate you'd literally have an aneurism reading real /pol/

Saying "you are just like /pol/" is the equivalent of saying "You are antisemitic" when criticizing Israel. Antisemitic accusations towards Israeli critics are basically a joke, so the new word is "/pol/" despite virtually being the same meaning.

[QUOTE=Monkah;48137025]"everyone that disagrees with me is corrupt, a shill, and stupid!!! beware of the israelluminati!!" holy shit you guys sound exactly like /pol/[/QUOTE] She is a shill though, its blatantly obvious that she was influenced by wealthy donors.

"shillary clinton" really? jesus christ

[QUOTE=Starpluck;48137122]Saying "you are just like /pol/" is the equivalent of saying "You are antisemitic" when criticizing Israel. Antisemitic accusations towards Israeli critics are basically a joke, so the new word is "/pol/" despite virtually being the same meaning.[/QUOTE] Criticism of Israel can be anti semitic. Look at the people who wail about how Israel shouldn't exist. These are the same people that paint Israel as a bloodthirsty country that aims to kill as much palestinians as possible, ignoring the fact that the IDF has done a lot of work trying to minimize civilian casualties.

[QUOTE=Svinnik;48137165]Criticism of Israel can be anti semitic. Look at the people who wail about how Israel shouldn't exist. These are the same people that paint Israel as a bloodthirsty country that aims to kill as much palestinians as possible, ignoring the fact that the IDF has done a lot of work trying to minimize civilian casualties.[/QUOTE] Where in this post do you see the antisemitism? [QUOTE=Starpluck;48136825]If American politicians "heard," they would not be taking the pro-Israeli stance. America has no specially enlightening knowledge that all its other major allies somehow failed to possess -- other than a jammed Israeli lobby which like a thorn, is difficult to remove.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Starpluck;48137170]Where in this post do you see the antisemitism?[/QUOTE] Why are you assuming that I meant your post? I disagree with it but there is nothing anti semitic there.

[I]Shut it down![/I]

[QUOTE=Starpluck;48137122]Saying "you are just like /pol/" is the equivalent of saying "You are antisemitic" when criticizing Israel. Antisemitic accusations towards Israeli critics are basically a joke, so the new word is "/pol/" despite virtually being the same meaning.[/QUOTE] We're not accusing you of antisemitism as much as we're accusing you of being tinfoil-hat-level [I]nuts[/I]. Most American politicians are pro-Israel, it's not surprising to hear that Clinton is as well-- especially considering it's also her husband's stance. [QUOTE=Starpluck;48137170]Where in this post do you see the antisemitism?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Criticism of Israel [B]can be[/B] anti semitic.[/QUOTE] There's nothing in his post that even mentions you. Try reading people's arguments before you disagree with them.

[QUOTE=Svinnik;48137192]Why are you assuming that I meant your post? I disagree with it but there is nothing anti semitic there.[/QUOTE] You were replying to a post that addressed the antisemitic accusation towards it.