‘Thug In Peace’: Jersey City cop killer shot outside Walgreens mourned
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[quote]They’re mourning a cop killer instead of the officer he gunned down.
Friends and relatives of Lawrence Campbell, the ex-con who shot a rookie Jersey City cop to death outside a drug store early Sunday, have erected a makeshift memorial to the gunman in his hardscrabble neighborhood.
More shocking still, Campbell's wife said Monday her husband should have killed more officers if they were planning to kill him.
"That's how I feel. God forgive me, but that's how I feel," Angelique Campbell told News 12 New Jersey at the memorial. "If that's the case, he should've took more with him. If they was going to stand over my husband and shoot him like a f---ing dog, he should've took all of them the f--- out."
The memorial for Campbell, 27, includes two dozen candles, a collection of empty liquor bottles and a pair of white T-shirts taped to a brick wall with fond messages such as “Thug In Peace” and “SEE U ON THE OTHER SIDE” written in black marker. There was also red, heart-shaped helium balloons.
Jersey City Mayor Steve Fulop called the display near a Orient Ave. corner store "disgusting," "ignorant" and not representative of the city as a whole.
But friends of the killer defended him.
“He was a good man,” local resident Barbara Jones told The Jersey Journal. “He looked out for everybody on the block.” The show of respect for Campbell outraged many in a city mourning the loss of baby-faced police officer Melvin Santiago, 23, who had been on the job for just seven months when he was brutally gunned down.
After disabling a security guard at the 24-hour Walgreens about 4 a.m. Sunday, Campbell went outside the 24-hour store. A surveillance video showed Campbell talking to someone — and that’s when he spoke ominous words.
“Watch the news later. I’m going to be famous,” he said, according to Fulop.
Campbell blasted Santiago as he was getting out of his patrol car. Police then fatally shot Campbell.[/quote]
[url]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/person-interest-arrest-jersey-city-killing-article-1.1866138[/url]
I hope someone vandalizes it and the police don't do shit to find the vandal.
[QUOTE]“He was a good man,” local resident Barbara Jones told The Jersey Journal. “He looked out for everybody on the block.”[/QUOTE]
He looked out for everybody on the block
except Santiago, it seems
[quote]"I firmly believe that the people who made the ignorant comments on the TV and the people who put up a memorial to a cowardly murderer who shot somebody in the head without giving him a chance are not representative of the people who live up there," Shea said.
"We know that because our officers interact with them every day. There is a minority of criminals that makes their job dangerous, but there is a large population up there that they are proud to serve."[/quote]
[quote]"There are people in every single community who just don't value life and this is highlighted by a situation like this. There's a lot of reasons for that — some of it is decades of how they perceive police, some it's jobs, some of it is socioeconomics — but at the end of the day, we're dealing with it today."[/quote]
[quote]Angelique Campbell, Campbell's widow, told News 12 New Jersey on Sunday that she was sorry for Santiago's family but that her husband should have killed more officers if they were planning to kill him. She later apologized for the comments.[/quote]
Dear Angelique Campbell,
Your husband was scum of the community. He tried to rob a fucking store and then killed a cop sitting in his car. You then have the ignorance to go on to say that your husband should have killed more cops? You narrow minded fuck I hope karma catches up to you.
Suddenly public defecation seems like a good thing
[QUOTE=Code3Response;45393124]Dear Angelique Campbell,
Your husband was scum of the community. He tried to rob a fucking store and then killed a cop sitting in his car. You then have the ignorance to go on to say that your husband should have killed more cops? You narrow minded fuck I hope karma catches up to you.[/QUOTE]
Funny enough if the police force there is a good force, this lady could be kidnapped by guys with fully automatic rifles and the police wouldn't think twice about working to save her. If they're like NYPD however, she could be kidnapped and almost nothing would happen. Don't piss on public service workers, they're important and their jobs are shit.
This is so stupid.
[QUOTE=draugur;45393209]Funny enough if the police force there is a good force, this lady could be kidnapped by guys with fully automatic rifles and the police wouldn't think twice about working to save her. If they're like NYPD however, she could be kidnapped and almost nothing would happen. Don't piss on public service workers, they're important and their jobs are shit.[/QUOTE]
Let me tell you what. If she got kidnapped, the police would treat her no differently than anyone else. Thats the job. You treat everyone the same.
[editline]14th July 2014[/editline]
[url]http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2014/07/in_jersey_city_a_sidewalk_memorial_honors_a_cop_killer.html#incart_river[/url]
[quote]"He was a good man," Jones said. "He looked out for everybody on the block."[/quote]
[quote]Identifying herself only as Mrs. Campbell, she said she doesn't believe her son is responsible for Santiago's death.
"He didn't do it," she said. "That's not Lawrence."[/quote]
Of course he didnt do it! Hes the shining star of his community. A profound leader in developing the welfare of everyone. Officers obviously just went on a rampant shooting spree and he happened to be the only other person killed/injured that day besides the one officer who was only on the job for 7 months.
[quote]Campbell waited for officers to arrive and shot the 23-year-old Santiago with what police believe was the guard's weapon[/quote]
Thats not Campbell remember. He didnt just wait for the fucking police to arrive to start shooting. He isnt like that. He had to steal a gun first then do it.
[quote]It is sad and disgusting to put up a memorial for a cowardly killer who ambushes a police officer and terrorizes a neighborhood," [/quote]
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You can claim that the US is a police state and that the police are militarizing, but its all about surviving fuckers like Lawrence Campbell. We need better vests, vehicles, and weapons because what we currently have is not adding up to sufficient protection of those men and women who take a stand against the bad.
Vehicles obtained by the police from the military are not tanks. If you think they are, you are wrong. Very. Wrong. They do not have mounted weapons. They need these vehicles because the nutjob that they are using it against has every intention of killing officers. This isnt a video game where you get to respawn. You fucking protect yourself and wait.
When an officer discharges his weapon a whole lot of shit happens that people dont know. Its not an easy "lol another police officer killed a civilian/dog and all he gets is paid vacation" . Take a read and actually find out what fucking happens here: [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/ProtectAndServe/comments/1s01lr/most_common_myth/cdslvma]via reddit[/url]
Fuck man, that subreddit is a [B]gold mine[/B] for learning about how officers think and why they do things they do. I encourage you to read through there along with [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/AskLEO/]/r/askLEO[/url], [url=[url=http://www.reddit.com/r/TalesFromTheSquadCar]/r/TalesFromTheSquadCar[/url]. I even posted a few things to the stories one.
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Cops are human. Humans are not perfect. Humans make mistakes. Every cop on this planet knows that they could be killed tomorrow when they put on the uniform, vest, and belt. Cops are not what everyone makes them out to be.
[quote]Friends and relatives of Lawrence Campbell, the ex-con who shot a rookie Jersey City cop to death outside a drug store early Sunday, have erected a makeshift memorial to the gunman in his hardscrabble neighborhood.[/quote]
Absolutely shocking that some people out there unconditionally care about their friends and relatives.
These individuals are too human and need to be replaced with emotionless robots ASAP.
A public memorial is definitely inappropriate but regardless of what you think about this person, he was still a person and had people who cared about him.
Thugs have people that love them, too. The actions they take, however horrible, do not negate that. You don't get denied your right to mourn just because the person you're mourning did something terrible.
I never said they wouldn't help her? I simply stated the fact that assuming the police force there isn't a corrupt pile of shit (AKA, like NYPD) they'd willingly die to help her.
I'm fully prepared to be buttslammed for this, but surely they have the right to mourn a family member and friend, even if he was a murderer. Going by the information in the story it sounds like he might not deserve it, but his family obviously loved him so why make them into monsters too?
Once again, not saying he wasn't a fucker.
He din do nuffin!
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45393450]Absolutely shocking that some people out there unconditionally care about their friends and relatives.
These individuals are too human and need to be replaced with emotionless robots ASAP.
A public memorial is definitely inappropriate but regardless of what you think about this person, he was still a person and had people who cared about him.[/QUOTE]
how dare people take issue with the fact that there are those who are supporting someone who went out and murdered a cop for no reason other than to get on the news, like they're a hero
God Jersey City is such a huge shithole.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45393450]Absolutely shocking that some people out there unconditionally care about their friends and relatives.
These individuals are too human and need to be replaced with emotionless robots ASAP.
A public memorial is definitely inappropriate but regardless of what you think about this person, he was still a person and had people who cared about him.[/QUOTE]
Most people know their limits and what is acceptable. If one of my family members did something horrible and died I wouldn't put up a fucking memorials to him.
[editline]15th July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;45393455]Thugs have people that love them, too. The actions they take, however horrible, do not negate that. You don't get denied your right to mourn just because the person you're mourning did something terrible.[/QUOTE]
No one on here is denying people the right to mourn but criticizing them in how they are doing so. Without sounding like a snob, its apparent these people lack any sort of critical thinking skills so what do you expect.
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No one on here is denying people the right to mourn but criticizing them in how they are doing so. Without sounding like a snob, its apparent these people lack any sort of critical thinking skills so what do you expect.[/QUOTE]
So they did it because they're stupid? :rolleyes:
No, they put up the memorial because they cared about this person, and I honestly doubt they give the slightest fuck what anyone else thinks. Because I wouldn't.
That lady is ignorant as fuck, I hope she gets clocked in her dumb mouth.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;45393720]God Jersey City is such a huge shithole.[/QUOTE]
Tell me about it I was born and raised there. I lost 3 brothers and almost my own life due to gang violence in the city. Im thankful I got out when I did before it was too late for me.
when someone is a loved one the things they do still don't make you not love them and mourn them when they die, when you live in poverty you're not necessarily going to see criminal stuff as the most evil thing ever, and when your only interaction with cops is when they're arresting you or a loved one or shooting a loved one you're not exactly going to empathize with dead police. none of these people are evil and if they're dumb that's because of circumstances they can't control. have a little bit of empathy for everyone involved
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;45394234]when someone is a loved one the things they do still don't make you not love them and mourn them when they die, [B]when you live in poverty you're not necessarily going to see criminal stuff as the most evil thing ever[/B], and when your only interaction with cops is when they're arresting you or a loved one or shooting a loved one you're not exactly going to empathize with dead police. none of these people are evil and if they're dumb that's because of circumstances they can't control. have a little bit of empathy for everyone involved[/QUOTE]
Any source on that?
[editline]15th July 2014[/editline]
By which I mean the implicit statement that poor people would be more forgiving of crime than other social classes.
[QUOTE=dennistrane;45394166]Tell me about it I was born and raised there. I lost 3 brothers and almost my own life due to gang violence in the city. Im thankful I got out when I did before it was too late for me.[/QUOTE]
And I thought losing one was bad enough. Sorry man, that's horrible.
[QUOTE=Hamaflavian;45394264]Any source on that?
[editline]15th July 2014[/editline]
By which I mean the implicit statement that poor people would be more forgiving of crime than other social classes.[/QUOTE]
no i don't have a source on that other than my own experiences with criminals and people who live below/around the poverty line.
imho it sounds more like the friends and family are turning him into a martyr
Like, I'm fine with mourning. It's a way of remembering the life they had, it's a way of coping, it helps get closure. What doesn't sound like mourning is publicly making a statement that they could've and should've murdered more cops, and that taking one out with them was a Really Good Thing. That's something else in itself.
[QUOTE=cebceb44;45394342]imho it sounds more like the friends and family are turning him into a martyr
Like, I'm fine with mourning. It's a way of remembering the life they had, it's a way of coping, it helps get closure. What doesn't sound like mourning is publicly making a statement that they could've and should've murdered more cops, and that taking one out with them was a Really Good Thing. That's something else in itself.[/QUOTE]
that's not what the lady said, she said if the cops were planning on killing him then he should have killed more then she later took it back and apologized, believe it or not people say things they don't really mean when they're grieving over say, the shooting death of their husband
[QUOTE=Bazsil;45393648]how dare people take issue with the fact that there are those who are supporting someone who went out and murdered a cop for no reason other than to get on the news, like they're a hero[/QUOTE]
Dorner was a bloodthirsty psychopath with a larger death count and he had half the internet cheering for him.
Let this guy's family and friends mourn him in peace, for fuck's sake.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;45394738]Dorner was a bloodthirsty psychopath with a larger death count and he had half the internet cheering for him.[/quote]
Shucks i guess im not allowed to dislike this guy based on the reactions of people who aren't me to another guy i disliked
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Let this guy's family and friends mourn him in peace, for fuck's sake.[/QUOTE]
ummm am i literally parading around these people's house hurling abuse at them by posting online about how much of a scumbag he was? if not, then i dont see the purpose of saying this
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