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[highlight]This is the face of Europe's most dangerous man[/highlight]
I thought it was going to be about Willy Wonka, then I read the name again!
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Who let this criminal out
HEIL WILDERS!
He's a man our country needs, He's not the racists everyone claims he is, He just very often says stuff in a way that politics isn't used to. When people hear his name (Even here on FP) everyone often thinks of him as that guy who hates Muslims ect. while that isn't the case as all. I personally voted for him and I was really disappointed when he didn't win the elections.
He looks like a guy I'd support. I'm not Dutch though
[QUOTE=Djessey;39216249]He's a man our country needs, He's not the racists everyone claims he is, He just very often says stuff in a way that politics isn't used to. When people hear his name (Even here on FP) everyone often thinks of him as that guy who hates Muslims ect. while that isn't the case as all. I personally voted for him and I was really disappointed when he didn't win the elections.[/QUOTE]
Guess again if most of the people in FP care about that and instead saddle their high horse of morality and demonize Wilters to no end and label everyone supporting him as racist.
What you see at 8:00 is a great representation of the behavior you find here. Even the children who show no respect for anyone are everywhere.
[QUOTE=Djessey;39216249]He's a man our country needs, He's not the racists everyone claims he is, He just very often says stuff in a way that politics isn't used to. When people hear his name (Even here on FP) everyone often thinks of him as that guy who hates Muslims ect. while that isn't the case as all. I personally voted for him and I was really disappointed when he didn't win the elections.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=smeismastger;39216503]Guess again if most of the people in FP care about that and instead saddle their high horse of morality and demonize Wilters to no end and label everyone supporting him as racist.[/QUOTE]
Fuck no. Wilders is a populist if anything. Just yells without providing solutions, taking no responsibility whatsoever, and trying to set a world record on the amount-of-people-offended-per-debate. I don't think he's a racist, I just think he's an idiot.
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Doesn't mean the video is somewhat overreacting though. He's far from "Europe's most dangerous man". He's a politician, just not a very respectable one.
fuck any religion
His party has halved the last election.
He played a part in the previous cabinet which he blew up, after which no party will ever trust him again.
He will never be part of the majority in Congress ever again.
He is finished and kaput.
Ignore him.
lol @ Muslims getting mad when you bring out statistics, and phrases from their own Koran.
I only watched 15 minutes or so, but I don't see why hes facing trial. Hes not calling for blood in the streets is he?
Lol, if I recall correctly, he was found not guilty in like, 2011.
Calling Wilders a racist is pretty fucking stupid.
Just like Pim Fortuyn, who was shot because media and other politicians kept calling him a racist.
Speaking out against a problem, or proposing something is a problem and needs fixing isn't racism dammit.
And I never voted for him, nor will I ever probably, but he's not the worst politician in the Netherlands.
The only thing I deeply disagree with is his views on the European Union.
Fucking Samson is much more of a populist.
[QUOTE=Pr0fane;39218713]Calling Wilders a racist is pretty fucking stupid.
Just like Pim Fortuyn, who was shot because media and other politicians kept calling him a racist.
Speaking out against a problem, or proposing something is a problem and needs fixing isn't racism dammit.
And I never voted for him, nor will I ever probably, but he's not the worst politician in the Netherlands.
The only thing I deeply disagree with is his views on the European Union.
Fucking Samson is much more of a populist.[/QUOTE]
Pim Fortuyn was killed by an enviromental activtivist, who was driven by an environmental organisation that thought Pim Fortuyn was a threat to the country. Not because the media tagged him as racist.
Okay, I've gotta agree there are alot of Muslims in The Netherlands, I can see why there should be a limitation on immigration, but not a whole stop.
First it was the muslims, now Polish people start to immigrate and all the sudden PVV creates a website where you can report polish immigrants because PVV now also wants to stop them immigrating.
It's a confusing man.
He said something within 5 minutes that I can agree with, criticizing an ideology or a religion is not a crime. But at the same time, he's using his political position to forward what I see as a personal agenda, not one for the common good. Hiding behind 'Freedom of Speech', but then not agree to anything such as 'religion' is just down right silly. Why are you allowed to say what you feel but not generally practice as such? Islam isn't such a terrible religion, it's just like any other one. It's full of moral lessons, as well as some shit that is so easily misinterpreted, that horrible things happen. Also, the idea of bubbling your society away from other ways of life is outlandish.
All this aside, the problem here is that you have the minor issues being so blown out of proportion, that it gives the situation an impression that it's much more severe than it actually is. You get the poor immigrants looking for a better life, but just end up doing the same thing in a new location. We all have our personal positions on what is right and wrong, based on our beliefs and morals and generally these are generated from our core religion. Until we can all come to a general agreement and consensus on what is best for the world and act on it, we won't stop killing each other or hating each other over our differences.
boy it sure smells like kebab removal up in here
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Those idiots even misspelled his name.
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^ Another one misspelling his name.
Boy, they must be very loyal and they sure do understand what they want.
For the longest time I thought it was pronounced like it looked.
B.t.w. the first version of geert wilders (Pim fortyn or fortuin) was killed by a dutch citizen with dutch blood (No moroccan or turk or immigrant)
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What I really don't understand is that he uses the "freedom of speech" right, but he wants to ban the Quran (the muslim bible) isn't that a bit idiotic?
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[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;39221353]For the longest time I thought it was pronounced like it looked.[/QUOTE]
I can understand that if someone hears about him types/says it like that but if you are protesting against the islam and if you are supporting him you should atleast study him (I mean like, atleast know his name)
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A couple of of muslims do something stupid (Example: terrorism/crime) and he is taking it out on the whole Islam, he is saying there is no good and bad islam there is just islam, he also calls the prophet a pedophile and abuser, that is hate, not a freedom of speech.
If all muslims in The Netherlands would leave The Netherlands, trust me, it will be chaos.
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Does he even know what he does?
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Here he says he is not like Pim fortuin, that he isn't against the islam etc. He says that he isn't grouping the islam, that he isn't talking about Islam itself, but only about the bad people, but yet he states different from this.
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Yet again, here he complains about hate speeches, go figure.
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I can understand that if someone hears about him types/says it like that but if you are protesting against the islam and if you are supporting him you should atleast study him (I mean like, atleast know his name)[/QUOTE]
Nah I just read about him and other rightist European politicians once and I just thought it was pronounced like gee rt wild ers
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;39221538]Nah I just read about him and other rightist European politicians once and I just thought it was pronounced like gee rt wild ers[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, you are just a regular citizen, but I'm talking about the people that were protesting FOR him.
[QUOTE=BANNED USER;39221146]He said something within 5 minutes that I can agree with, criticizing an ideology or a religion is not a crime. But at the same time, he's using his political position to forward what I see as a personal agenda, not one for the common good. Hiding behind 'Freedom of Speech', but then not agree to anything such as 'religion' is just down right silly. Why are you allowed to say what you feel but not generally practice as such? Islam isn't such a terrible religion, it's just like any other one. It's full of moral lessons, as well as some shit that is so easily misinterpreted, that horrible things happen. Also, the idea of bubbling your society away from other ways of life is outlandish.
All this aside, the problem here is that you have the minor issues being so blown out of proportion, that it gives the situation an impression that it's much more severe than it actually is. You get the poor immigrants looking for a better life, but just end up doing the same thing in a new location. We all have our personal positions on what is right and wrong, based on our beliefs and morals and generally these are generated from our core religion. Until we can all come to a general agreement and consensus on what is best for the world and act on it, we won't stop killing each other or hating each other over our differences.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion, people's freedom of speech should be restricted when their actions and words reflect badly on a country as a whole. When you're in a representative position for a whole nation, you don't get to speak out like he does (you may do it in your own free time, in your own name all you want, just not as a member of our government). I don't at all like where my country is going right now because of people like him, once such a great nation of understanding and helping others; and now look at us, barring immigrants (whom work their arse off in shitty jobs no one but them would take anyways, for a wage no sane legal resident would work for) from entering our country because 'they be stealin uur jewbs'. Our friendly helping next-door-neighbor attitude is gone, and it's a damn shame.
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