US lawmaker: 'Our atmosphere actually needs more carbon dioxide' as he proposes bill that would exem
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Arguing that we need more carbon dioxide, not less, in the atmosphere, Rep. Jerry Anderson, R-Price, has proposed legislation that would limit the state’s ability to regulate emissions of the greenhouse gas.
[URL="http://le.utah.gov/%7E2014/bills/static/HB0229.html"]HB229[/URL] narrows the definition of the term "air contaminants," clarifying that "natural components of the atmosphere," including nitrogen, oxygen and other stable, or noble gases, are not pollution.
Anderson’s bill would prevent the establishment of state standards for carbon dioxide below atmospheric concentrations of 500 parts per million. This is a level far above what is currently in the atmosphere, already padded with carbon thanks to two centuries of fossil-fuel burning.
[B]"We are short of carbon dioxide for the needs of the plants[/B]," Anderson, a retired science teacher, told the committee overseeing environmental programs in the the state on Tuesday.
"Concentrations reached 600 parts per million at the time of the dinosaurs and they did quite well. I think we could double the carbon dioxide and not have any adverse effects."
Such claims are at odds with credible climate science, according to Joe Andrade, a retired University of Utah engineering professor. Carbon levels at 500 ppm would warm the planet and acidify the oceans to a devastating degree, he said.
"We are on a path to double the amount of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere since we started burning fossil fuels. We can all see the chaotic weather that it has already produced," Andrade said. "It’s not toxic to you and me below concentrations of 1,000 or 2,000 [parts per million], but it’s toxic to this planet. Setting an arbitrary upper limit, that is out of the bounds of anything related to planetary stability, is simply bad government."
While Anderson’s climate change skepticism enjoyed a receptive hearing from committee members, they voted to hold the bill.[/quote]
Smart tactic. Don't deny climate change, instead claim that climate change will happen when don't meet our pollution quota.
And across the nation, the sound of scientists slamming their heads against the nearest available wall was heard.
....And this guy isn't in a mental institution... why?
This guy is literally too dumb to be allowed to go free.
[QUOTE=Miskav;43969162]....And this guy isn't in a mental institution... why?
This guy is literally too dumb to be allowed to go free.[/QUOTE]
He's clearly getting paid.
Its a totally unsustainable solution but some energy company guy figures that it buys him time to maximise profit.
Once people realise the laws is bullshit/they reach the 600ppm its somebody elses problem the lawmaker and the energy company guy are happily retired living off their ill gotten gains.
[QUOTE]Anderson, a retired science teacher[/QUOTE]
American Education System
Such short-sightedness. One has to wonder if he looks properly before crossing the road.
[editline]19th February 2014[/editline]
Though who am I kidding, he probably drives everywhere, no exceptions.
Well to be honest, trees need our carbon-dioxide.
[QUOTE=Secrios;43969219]Well to be honest, trees need our carbon-dioxide.[/QUOTE]
And humans need water, but we can still drown in it.
Electrolytes, its what plants crave!
[QUOTE=Secrios;43969219]Well to be honest, trees need our carbon-dioxide.[/QUOTE]
But we're also clearing vast areas of rainforest and other woodlands at the same time, most of which isn't being replaced.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;43969287]But we're also clearing vast areas of rainforest and other woodlands at the same time, most of which isn't being replaced.[/QUOTE]
"But we don't have enough CO2 to warrant that number of trees."
If I had my way you'd be clapped in irons for saying shit like that.
I think I would have just burst out laughing in his face if I was there listening to this idiot :v:
To be honest I don't think he's that stupid, just acting like one due to being completely in the pocket of the industries he's attempting to remove the regulations on.
[QUOTE=Reds;43969159]And across the nation, the sound of scientists slamming their heads against the nearest available wall was heard.[/QUOTE]
I'm studying science in Uni, can I join in?
The neutrinos have mutated!
Some politicians need more gases too. Like Chloroform. You can't do BS if you are sleeping.
And it's all in the name of making cold, hard cash.
He's obviously trying to make sure the atmosphere can accommodate the Kaiju so the aliens(?) can send them out one at a time for years and fight our giant mechs.
[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;43969244]Electrolytes, its what plants crave![/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vw2CrY9Igs[/media]
I mean I am by no means a rabid ecomentalist, but come on, even I agree that this is the opposite of what should be happening.
[QUOTE=Reds;43969413]To be honest I don't think he's that stupid, just acting like one due to being completely in the pocket of the industries he's attempting to remove the regulations on.[/QUOTE]
If his common sense and dignity doesn't warn him about ow stupid retarded this is, then he truly is daft.
He's not crazy, he's just bought...
You fool you'll doom us all. Carbon that high will devastate the ocean. Global fisheries will collapse and millions will die. How is this hard to understand??
Can we regulate this guy's access to lobbyists and industry bribes?
And maybe oxygen.
loooooooool, I give precisely no fucks about global warming and even I think this is a shitheaded idea proposed by an absolute moron. Get out of Congress and don't come back.
[QUOTE=TorashVD;43970118]Some politicians need more gases too. Like Chloroform. You can't do BS if you are sleeping.[/QUOTE]
I suggest cyanide gas
[QUOTE=TestECull;43973384]loooooooool, I give precisely no fucks about global warming and even I think this is a shitheaded idea proposed by an absolute moron. Get out of Congress and don't come back.[/QUOTE]
You should give a fuck.
[quote] [B]"Concentrations reached 600 parts per million at the time of the dinosaurs and they did quite well.[/B] I think we could double the carbon dioxide and not have any adverse effects."[/quote]That's probably the funniest thing I've heard a politician say in a while.
i fucking despise how bribery is basically legal in our governmental system, and i despise how people can choose money over the health of basically everything on this planet
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