Guy shoots neighbour in the dick for stealing his shit
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[QUOTE]A 40-year-old man was shot by his neighbor after trying to steal some items from his home on Friday night.
Around 9 p.m., the neighbor shot the 40-year-old man after he caught him breaking into his home on Cypress North Houston Road and Cathy Drive, according to the Harris County Sheriff's Office.
A neighbor told police this isn't the first time the 40-year-old suspect has tried to break into the home and the neighbor had enough of it. The homeowner who shot the suspect cooperated and waited for police to arrive.
The man was shot in the groin and taken to Memorial Hermann Hospital by LifeFlight. He is expected to survive but is in serious condition.
Police have yet to identify the suspect or the homeowner at this time. [/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.chron.com/houston/article/Shooting-at-home-in-North-Cypress-home-ends-with-9518691.php[/url]
karma's a bitch
A dick for a dick makes the whole world dysfunctional.
[QUOTE=AaronM202;51143351]A dick for a dick[/QUOTE]
but the dick doesn't have a dick anymore
[QUOTE=_charon;51143396]but the dick doesn't have a dick anymore[/QUOTE]
A dickless dick, if you will.
sounds like a very justified reaction, especially if it's already happened before. the dude was probably warned that he'd be shot previously too.
thats what you get
[QUOTE=aznz888;51143418]sounds like a very justified reaction, especially if it's already happened before. the dude was probably warned that he'd be shot previously too.[/QUOTE]
How is shooting someone justified? Seems a bit extreme to me.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143733]How is shooting someone justified? Seems a bit extreme to me.[/QUOTE]
If someone repeatedly breaks into someone's home to steal, they deserve to get shot.
When you trespass, you don't get the benefit of the doubt, for all the victim knows, that criminal may be willing to kill to get what they want.
[QUOTE=Zombinie;51143752]If someone repeatedly breaks into someone's home to steal, they deserve to get shot.[/QUOTE]
No they don't. They deserve jail time, not getting castrated by a gun. There are much better ways this could have been handled.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143733]How is shooting someone justified? Seems a bit extreme to me.[/QUOTE]
I'd always assume the worst about someone sneaking around my property, picking through my stuff.
If you go onto someone else's property and try to steal their shit, the only two ways out of the situation you deserve are in the back of a squad car with severely diminished pride or in the back of an ambulance with a few new holes.
You're more than free to lay down on the ground and wait for the former, anything else get's the latter.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143773]No they don't. They deserve jail time, not getting castrated by a gun. There are much better ways this could have been handled.[/QUOTE]
Of course they also deserve jail time, but you can't honestly expect your average joe to subdue a dangerous criminal without a gun until the police arrive. What else was he to do, abandon his home?
[QUOTE=evilweazel;51143775]I'd always assume the worst about someone sneaking around my property, picking through my stuff.
If you go onto someone else's property and try to steal their shit, the only two ways out of the situation you deserve are in the back of a squad car with severely diminished pride or in the back of an ambulance with a few new holes.
You're more than free to lay down on the ground and wait for the former, anything else get's the latter.[/QUOTE]
Except this guy knew it was his neighbour who had done it several times before and he shot him because he was "fed up". That's not a justified response in my opinion.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143791]Except this guy knew it was his neighbour who had done it several times before and he shot him because he was "fed up". That's not a justified response in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
The response is justified because the neighbor was in the process of committing a criminal act.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143791]Except this guy knew it was his neighbour who had done it several times before and he shot him because he was "fed up". That's not a justified response in my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Pretty justified.
Property is worth more than the guy trying to steal it, in my eyes. Car, TV, Jewelry, doesn't matter. My right to keep the shit I worked hard for overrides his right to walk out unharmed.
If shooting him is the quickest, safest, and most sure way to make him stop, I don't see any reason not to go for it (after he has been warned to stop before the event even took place, to boot).
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143733]How is shooting someone justified? Seems a bit extreme to me.[/QUOTE]
lol, if you or anyone else were to break into my house, you'd get shot. No questions about it.
Someone that breaks into your house is not there to be your friend, and assuming the worst is the safest way to go about it. Better your life than theirs.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143733]How is shooting someone justified? Seems a bit extreme to me.[/QUOTE]
I'll just break into your house multiple times then and see what your reaction is
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143773]No they don't. They deserve jail time, not getting castrated by a gun. There are much better ways this could have been handled.[/QUOTE]
lol I bet you're the same type of person that wonders why police shoot people reaching for things/not cooperating with police
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[QUOTE=Water-Marine;51143401]A dickless dick, if you will.[/QUOTE]
[i]It's true. This man has no dick.[/i]
[QUOTE=X12321;51143846]lol I bet you're the same type of person that wonders why police shoot people reaching for things/not cooperating with police[/QUOTE]
I'd think he would be the type of person who blames police shootings on victims.
This man did the worse crime
[mEdia]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBCDY5XhZng[/mEdia]
If someone repeatedly breaks into your house after being warned once, all bets are off. You should know a good majority of people aren't going to just sit there and let you take their shit.
did he report the guy to the police before the incident, though?
plus in texas this is 110% legal
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143733]How is shooting someone justified? Seems a bit extreme to me.[/QUOTE]
Lets consider this situation with a variable that's pretty much give warrant for to shoot anyone who let me remind you committed an illegal act in order to steal your shit.
What if the robber is armed. What if the man breaking into your house has a gun, something that appears to be a gun or a knife that he took from the kitchen.
What if the intruder isn't there to steal your shit, because gangs around the US tend to do home invasions to kill people for initiations.
What if the intruder isn't there to steal from you but to harm a family member either by injuring them or sexually assault/raping them. Once again this happens where people get raped in their own homes and have young children taken in the night.
What if you own something that's worth a decent penny and this man is willingly to kill you for it.
All those things I listed happen just about everywhere because you certainly cannot know intruders intention when they kick your door in the middle of the night. What it boils down to is if you're willing to defend what's yours or your family from someone that equally wants to take what they want by any means.
[QUOTE=Darth Ninja;51143733]How is shooting someone justified? Seems a bit extreme to me.[/QUOTE]
Well you know what maybe he shouldnt have been fucking trying to rob somebody while trespassing.
[QUOTE=D-Roy;51143819]The response is justified because the neighbor was in the process of committing a criminal act.[/QUOTE]
So anyone committing a criminal act can be justifiably shot. Well, that's one way to deal with overpopulation, I guess.
Has any of these posters who say "But you break the law, you get shot, that's just how it is." every time a thread like this pops up consider that there are places in the world where the requirements for self-defense are much stricter and they are still not flooded with murder and crime? The US has the highest crime rates in the western world despite it, so perhaps the whole legal framework stands to be criticized.
Shooting a trespasser, a vandal, a fleeing criminal or an unarmed burglar only makes you less morally reprehensible because your laws say so.
[QUOTE=phaedon;51144288]So anyone committing a criminal act can be justifiably shot. Well, that's one way to deal with overpopulation, I guess.
Has any of these posters who say "But you break the law, you get shot, that's just how it is." every time a thread like this pops up consider that there are places in the world where the requirements for self-defense are much stricter and they are still not flooded with murder and crime? The US has the highest crime rates in the western world despite it, so perhaps the whole legal framework stands to be criticized.
Shooting a trespasser, a vandal, a fleeing criminal or an unarmed burglar only makes you less morally reprehensible because your laws say so.[/QUOTE]
Truly the response of someone whose likely never been mugged at gunpoint or been home when a potentially armed person has broken into your home, destroyed your sense of safety, and attempted to steal belongings you've likely spent years working to afford, or worse yet, are irreplaceable.
Just bend over and let it happen. Being a victim means you don't have to worry about random people saying you did something morally dubious to someone in the act of doing something "morally reprehensible."
[editline]3rd October 2016[/editline]
Our self defense laws are in place because of our crime; or self defense laws are not causing crime. Once the wealth inequality issue in the US is solved, we can ween off the need for home defense, until then, it's a necessary evil.
[QUOTE=evilweazel;51143823]Pretty justified.
Property is worth more than the guy trying to steal it, in my eyes. Car, TV, Jewelry, doesn't matter. My right to keep the shit I worked hard for overrides his right to walk out unharmed.
If shooting him is the quickest, safest, and most sure way to make him stop, I don't see any reason not to go for it (after he has been warned to stop before the event even took place, to boot).[/QUOTE]
There's your problem. You're choosing to do what's easy over what's right.
[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;51144083]Lets consider this situation with a variable that's pretty much give warrant for to shoot anyone who let me remind you committed an illegal act in order to steal your shit.
What if the robber is armed. What if the man breaking into your house has a gun, something that appears to be a gun or a knife that he took from the kitchen.
What if the intruder isn't there to steal your shit, because gangs around the US tend to do home invasions to kill people for initiations.
What if the intruder isn't there to steal from you but to harm a family member either by injuring them or sexually assault/raping them. Once again this happens where people get raped in their own homes and have young children taken in the night.
What if you own something that's worth a decent penny and this man is willingly to kill you for it.
All those things I listed happen just about everywhere because you certainly cannot know intruders intention when they kick your door in the middle of the night. What it boils down to is if you're willing to defend what's yours or your family from someone that equally wants to take what they want by any means.[/QUOTE]
Yes, because making decisions based on what ifs are always the best ones.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;51144310]Truly the response of someone whose likely never been mugged at gunpoint or been home when a potentially armed person has broken into your home, destroyed your sense of safety, and attempted to steal belongings you've likely spent years working to afford, or worse yet, are irreplaceable.
Just bend over and let it happen. Being a victim means you don't have to worry about random people saying you did something morally dubious to someone in the act of doing something "morally reprehensible."[/quote]
"We've had it worse than you so we know better, because being passionate over a certain issue makes us more correct" is not a very solid argument as we get vandalized, mugged, pickpocketed and broken into east of the US too, you know, the law just requires we deal with it in a different manner, even if you perceive it as bending over.
Self-defense, legitimate or illegitimate aside, there is also less tolerance for individually taking justice and vigilantism which is clearly something [i]some[/i] Americans don't have an issue tolerating or even supporting.
[quote]Our self defense laws are in place because of our crime; or self defense laws are not causing crime. Once the wealth inequality issue in the US is solved, we can ween off the need for home defense, until then, it's a necessary evil.[/QUOTE]
If your increased crime rates are driven primarily or exclusively by wealth inequality, that would suggest that much of the crime that is committed is done so out of need, not a thought out disregard for the law and other peoples' properties. Celebrating a petty criminal's injury or death under these circumstances becomes more sinister. The need for criminal justice reform is pretty blatant.
[quote] it's a necessary evil.[/QUOTE]
Not as seen in the rest of the west it isn't. The US is exceptional in some matters, but not automatically in all.
[QUOTE=phaedon;51144288]So anyone committing a criminal act can be justifiably shot. Well, that's one way to deal with overpopulation, I guess.
Has any of these posters who say "But you break the law, you get shot, that's just how it is." every time a thread like this pops up consider that there are places in the world where the requirements for self-defense are much stricter and they are still not flooded with murder and crime? The US has the highest crime rates in the western world despite it, so perhaps the whole legal framework stands to be criticized.
Shooting a trespasser, a vandal, a fleeing criminal or an unarmed burglar only makes you less morally reprehensible because your laws say so.[/QUOTE]
Well hey, you know when someone breaks into your house, just let it happen. Let him steal all your shit and then potentially murder you because theres literally no fucking way you could possibly know if he will or not, its fine, you'll be morally justified.
Im not really a gun guy but if someone broke in i'd at least grab a knife, christ.
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