Mythbusters Banned From Discussing RFID By Visa And Mastercard
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[quote]Host Adam Savage of [I]Mythbusters[/I] tells how Visa, Mastercard, and Discover had the Discovery Channel put the kibosh on an episode that would have revealed just how “trackable and hackable” the RFID chips found in many credit cards are. It’s a telling example of how corporate advertisers serve as the gatekeepers of mainstream media/entertainment:[/quote]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq7kBhts9a8&feature=player_embedded[/media]
[url]http://www.disinfo.com/2012/02/mythbusters-banned-from-discussing-rfid-by-visa-and-mastercard/[/url]
I can understand them not wanting people to know how to do this to your credit cards, but you'd think that would give those companies some kind of drive to make something more secure.
What a lovely world we live in, where every corporation wants the best for it's customers and is NOT AT ALL bent on raking in cash no matter the cost.
Ugh... Security through obscurity never works.
that phone call he was talking about must have been the scariest phone call on the planet.
it's not like RFID hacking and cloning and spoofing etc. isn't widely documented or anything
I love the last thing the guy says in that video.
"Well, you have about 3000 people in the room who aren't under such legal arrangements."
[QUOTE=Dlaor-guy;34527640]Ugh... Security through obscurity never works.[/QUOTE]
But sadly that sort of practice isn't going to be going away seeing as it's a hell of a lot cheaper than actually, you know, doing something about the problem.
[QUOTE=Contag;34527661]it's not like RFID hacking and cloning and spoofing etc. isn't widely documented or anything[/QUOTE]
Apparently the last thing they want is to make it well known on a very popular TV show.
I can see [i]why[/i] they wouldn't want it shown, but then again, it probably shows that there is a huge flaw in the system.
I guess the thing was so easy to hack that that was the reason why they banned it
[QUOTE=SteeleCratos;34527646]that phone call he was talking about must have been the scariest phone call on the planet.[/QUOTE]
It'd be the realization you could go from rich to broke in the time it took them to press three buttons.
This reminds me of when a certain couple tried to force some researchers from giving a talk as they had found an exploit involving RFID in certain cashless train / bus cards.
Stuff should be out in the open so it gets fixed.
RFID must be flawed if somehow if they want to secure it using obscurity
I would think of Mythbusters as free hackers since there are these myths and they debunk them. They have probably made things in the world safer, better, cheaper(?)
How is that news? that video is from 4 (!) years ago.
[QUOTE=Zerohope;34527579]What a lovely world we live in, where every corporation wants the best for it's customers and is NOT AT ALL bent on raking in cash no matter the cost.[/QUOTE]
The problem here is more about how they don't want anyone to see how easy it is to hack their shit and even though it is that easy, they don't do anything about it.
Like leaving an open wound and sticking your finger in, and never treating it.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;34528244]RFID must be flawed if somehow if they want to secure it using obscurity[/QUOTE]
It is and the (not so broad) public knows about it.
If somebody sticks a scanner to your pocket with your credit card for a short moment, he sorta has it now.
at least it doesn't give you cancer
[QUOTE=garychencool;34528323]I would think of Mythbusters as free hackers since there are these myths and they debunk them. They have probably made things in the world safer, better, cheaper(?)[/QUOTE]
I like to think of them as White Hats of modern technology and old school myths. Hey yeah look what we figured out, but please for the love of god don't do it or you'll lose an eye.
power of money.
[QUOTE=PrusseluskenV2;34527737]This kind of shit is exactly why people like "LulzSec" fuck around with companies. If they won't let us know about the flaws, we won't find out before those flaws are exploited.[/QUOTE]Yes except releasing the credentials to thousands of people is hardly the way to go at it.
Yes, we've all seen what good it does to hide stuff like this. Eh, it'll probably lead to another shitstorm eventually.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;34528402]It is and the (not so broad) public knows about it.
If somebody sticks a scanner to your pocket with your credit card for a short moment, he sorta has it now.[/QUOTE]You don't even need to be that close. Many of these RFID cards can be read with a remote scanner.
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