• Pollution now officially opposes China's tyranny
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[IMG]http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2013/11/05/RTR3D3U9/largest.jpg[/IMG] [url]http://www.theatlanticcities.com/technology/2013/11/intense-smog-making-beijings-massive-surveillance-network-practically-useless/7481/[/url] [QUOTE]Intense Smog Is Making Beijing's Massive Surveillance Network Practically Useless Beijing's surveillance network, one of the most extensive and invasive in the world, has been compromised by an unexpected foe: smog. The South China Morning Post reports that intense pollution in Beijing has reduced visibility to such an extent that "no surveillance camera can see through the thick layers of particles." The problem is so serious that National Natural Science Foundation of China has commissioned two groups, one made up of civilians and the other military, to spend four years researching surveillance technology that can see through smog. A contingency solution? Radar. It might cause health problems, but it could penetrate smog particles that "are so many and so solid, they block light almost as effectively as a brick wall." While the inability to use surveillance cameras could have an impact on crime control, it's also a temporary boon to China's civil liberties advocates and other dissidents. Since launching its "Skynet" surveillance program in 2005, China has bedecked the country with 20 to 30 million security cameras, placing them in taxi cabs, along streets, and inside classrooms, movie theaters, and private buildings. While private parties also buy and use surveillance systems, the Chinese government makes 70 percent of surveillance system purchases. China's obsession with surveilling every corner of the country led it to spend $16 billion on video surveillance between 2009-2011. With more than 800,000 of those cameras in Beijing, that city now surpasses London as the most surveilled metropolis on the planet. Many of those cameras are used to harass dissidents, as NPR recently reported in this shocking piece on human rights lawyer Li Tiantian. An excerpt: Chinese state security agents have privately confirmed they can turn cellphones into listening devices. Li says they also eavesdrop on her conversations to track her movements and arrest her. "One morning, when I was going to a court hearing, I called a gypsy cab," says Li. "Police found out through the telephone that the car was coming to my compound. Then they waited there to catch me."[/QUOTE]
So is anything being done to end the smog?
[QUOTE=ToumaniSquirrel;42785928]So is anything being done to end the smog?[/QUOTE] They're trying but money comes first!
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42785810][IMG]http://cdn.theatlanticcities.com/img/upload/2013/11/05/RTR3D3U9/largest.jpg[/IMG] [/QUOTE] I've seen concrete blocks that were easier to see through than that, what the christ.
Whats the fucking problem? youre all acting like this is the only world we have. [B]OH RIGHT[/B]
Now watch as china goes all green 'for the environment'
Here's another photo from other part of china. [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LkGtSk3Kn1Q/THqM4Gr-SmI/AAAAAAAAAJE/BA0WvJyNpvo/s1600/Rock+Gray.jpg[/img]
ITT: Fifty Shades of Grey. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("'itt'" - MaxOfS2D))[/highlight]
worse than morrowind
Hmmm there's so much smog. We better develop stuff to see through the smog, combating pollution is just too much effort.
Europe 1900 = China 2013?
It's as bad as those pictures, I was there a few months back. The worst is when a storm comes rolling in with the smog on top of it, bye bye flights :(
The Smog limits American spying. It is clearly good for China's national interests.
[QUOTE=ToumaniSquirrel;42785928]So is anything being done to end the smog?[/QUOTE] [quote]The problem is so serious that National Natural Science Foundation of China has commissioned two groups, one made up of civilians and the other military, to spend four years researching surveillance technology that can see through smog. A contingency solution? Radar. It might cause health problems, but it could penetrate smog particles that "are so many and so solid, they block light almost as effectively as a brick wall."[/quote] Evidently not, they're more interested in making surveillance equipment capable of seeing through the smog than actually getting rid of it and increasing quality of life over there.
[QUOTE=Ilwrath;42787206]Evidently not, they're more interested in making surveillance equipment capable of seeing through the smog than actually getting rid of it and increasing quality of life over there.[/QUOTE] Chinese eyes are prepared for smog and the people can drink canned air if they really need it.
[QUOTE]The problem is so serious that National Natural Science Foundation of China has commissioned two groups, one made up of civilians and the other military, to spend four years researching surveillance technology that can see through smog.[/QUOTE] How about spending four years and all foreseeable years combating the root cause of the smog and developing countermeasures against it?
They need to turn up the view range on the cameras :v:
[QUOTE=Swebonny;42785938]They're trying but money comes first![/QUOTE] It says right in the article that instead of trying to get rid of the fog they just want to find ways to see through it.. [editline]7th November 2013[/editline] Also, if you want to commit crimes in China, don't carry a cell phone, simple.
[QUOTE=Tophat;42787525]It says right in the article that instead of trying to get rid of the fog they just want to find ways to see through it..[/QUOTE] I assumed that he referred to any measures against pollution. Smog is just a fraction of the environmental issues China is facing. They're doing things to limit pollution, but currently it's hardly enough.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;42787251]Chinese eyes are prepared for smog and the people can drink canned air if they really need it.[/QUOTE] They could bring gas masks into everyday fashion, just imagine how cool that would be.
[QUOTE=Deep;42787618]They could bring gas masks into everyday fashion, just imagine how cool that would be.[/QUOTE] Suddenly, half of Fscepunch moves to China
Superman 64 was set in 2013 China? Never knew.
you could see further in GTA3 than beijing
[quote]The problem is so serious that National Natural Science Foundation of China has commissioned two groups, one made up of civilians and the other military, to spend four years researching surveillance technology that can see through smog. A contingency solution? Radar. It might cause health problems, but it could penetrate smog particles that "are so many and so solid, they block light almost as effectively as a brick wall."[/quote] so instead of getting rid of the smog, they're just gonna microwave their citizens?
[QUOTE=notlabbet;42787814]so instead of getting rid of the smog, they're just gonna microwave their citizens?[/QUOTE] I've heard of chinese chicken before but that's just awful.
Worse than Silent Hill 2
This is some Orwellian shit. It disturbs me greatly.
[QUOTE=Rika-chan;42787638]Suddenly, half of Fscepunch moves to China[/QUOTE] nope, just most of the Stalker thread regulars :v: (and maybe RP enthusiasts)
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42785810] Since launching its "Skynet" surveillance program in 2005, China has bedecked the country with 20 to 30 million security cameras, placing them in taxi cabs, along streets, and inside classrooms, movie theaters, and private buildings. While private parties also buy and use surveillance systems, the Chinese government makes 70 percent of surveillance system purchases. China's obsession with surveilling every corner of the country led it to spend $16 billion on video surveillance between 2009-2011. With more than 800,000 of those cameras in Beijing, that city now surpasses London as the most surveilled metropolis on the planet. Many of those cameras are used to harass dissidents, as NPR recently reported in this shocking piece on human rights lawyer Li Tiantian. An excerpt: Chinese state security agents have privately confirmed they can turn cellphones into listening devices. Li says they also eavesdrop on her conversations to track her movements and arrest her. "One morning, when I was going to a court hearing, I called a gypsy cab," says Li. "Police found out through the telephone that the car was coming to my compound. Then they waited there to catch me."[/QUOTE] Oh wow. Apart from the smog, who would have guessed that we had so much in common with China?
[QUOTE=Mr. Tripp;42786064]worse than morrowind[/QUOTE] Just cover your eyes, you'll be fine. [t]http://img.gamefaqs.net/screens/3/1/f/gfs_79907_2_25.jpg[/t]
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