• You don't need much space to have sex, according to Singaporean minister of state
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[IMG]http://www.straitstimes.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_pictrure_780x520_/public/articles/2016/10/12/josephine2.jpg?itok=UcxdrLQN[/IMG] [QUOTE]You do not need much space to have sex.That was the feisty rejoinder from Senior Minister of State Josephine Teo, who oversees the National Population and Talent Division, to a question on whether young people are not getting their flats early enough to have children. The suggestion was that this could be a chicken-and-egg problem. To qualify for the Parenthood Priority Scheme, which gives first- time married couples first dibs on getting a flat, they must be expecting or have a citizen child below 16. But to have a child, some say they need to have a flat first. With a straight face, Mrs Teo declared: "You need a very small space to have sex." Known for her candid blog posts on dating and marriage, Mrs Teo does not mince her words - think "menstruation" and "cysts" - when it comes to urging young people to look for love and settle down early. In an interview on marriage and parenthood issues last week, the mother of three teenage children tackled issues ranging from infertility to why the Government should not be "too kaypoh" (Hokkien for busybody). She noted that the Singaporean love story has a different arc from that of countries in the West. "In our case, man meets woman, man falls in love with woman, man proposes to woman, they then plan the wedding and do the house," she said. "In France, in the UK, in the Nordic countries, man meets woman, tonight they can make a baby already. They love each other. Both of them partly have their own family, so it is a matter of living in yours or living in mine, and they also don't have to worry about marriage - that comes later," she added. So how about having a couple declare that they wish to have a child in two years and get the flat first? "What if they can't conceive? Take back the flat from them? How do you know they really tried to conceive? Can we check whether they use contraceptives? Cannot, right?" she replied, amused. Instead of having the Government poke its nose into the bedroom, Mrs Teo relied instead on persuasion. She urged women to have babies early as they would not know if they are fertile or not. "You never really know that you're not fertile until you try. Unfortunately, it is one of those things. There is no fertility indicator. As a woman you will know, if you have regular menstruation, okay, (there is a) likelihood. But maybe you have a major cyst and how would you know until you attempt to conceive, only to realise that you can't?" The search for love is also not something to be left to chance, she said. "When I meet young people and ask if they go and look for upgrading opportunities, they said 'yes'. I said, 'What about love? Do you go and look for love?' They said 'no'. I said, 'Why not?' They said, 'If it happens, it happens'. "I said, 'You don't think that upgrading and a good job, if it happens it happens, right? So why is it that you would apply that thinking to your career and your own education, but you don't apply it to your personal life?' " However, the minister was quick to point out that there is a need to respect personal choice when it comes to marriage and children. [/QUOTE] [URL]http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ministers-rejoinder-to-no-flat-no-child-belief[/URL] [editline]12th October 2016[/editline] I facepalmed when I saw this in my fb feed [editline]12th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE]"In France, in the UK, in the Nordic countries, man meets woman, tonight they can make a baby already. They love each other. Both of them partly have their own family, so it is a matter of living in yours or living in mine, and they also don't have to worry about marriage - that comes later," she added. [/QUOTE] Fucking what
what the fuck is going on in southeast asia
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51192151]what the fuck is going on in southeast asia[/QUOTE] demographic collapse
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51192151]what the fuck is going on in southeast asia[/QUOTE] Backwards rules/traditions, overworking, etc etc
UK, US, France are very well placed for next 50 years because we have good (ideally we want a little higher, but its alright) fertility topped up by immigration. Then again, not sure what Singapore due to land constraints can really do (though not the case with Japan, Korea, China, to some extent Taiwan, etc.). East Asia is going be destroyed by their massively aging populations (even relative to the West) and it is too late to do anything. Whenever people complain about my pro-natalist policy (usually by calling it 'Nazi' or the like) for some reason the very same people would never support slashing pensions to pieces.
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51192151]what the fuck is going on in southeast asia[/QUOTE] singapore has had its head up its ass since its authoritarian inception. Id bet money that she could turn in any plan and it would get rubber stamped because she has the title and its a near single party system with emphasis on unity and groupthink
baby first, (possible) marriage later
Or possibly you couod get out of people's business and stop encouraging a third world birthrate amongst the population of a country on an island so small it is 100% urban?
She's right, we fuck in our parents' broom closets and shit and live there for a couple of years.
[QUOTE=Limed00d;51192342]She's right, we fuck in our parents' broom closets and shit and live there for a couple of years.[/QUOTE] Yeah I don't know why she's pointing to Scandinavian countries, don't we move out fairly early and get children fairly late?
or you can just make a babby on the kitchen counter neuken in de keuken
[QUOTE=TestECull;51192330]Or possibly you couod get out of people's business and stop encouraging a third world birthrate amongst the population of a country on an island so small it is 100% urban?[/QUOTE] Depends on their immigration rate of course, but their population is growing older which makes it harder for the generation who's going to care for the old farts. Will also hurt their economy when fewer people are working age.
[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;51192383]Yeah I don't know why she's pointing to Scandinavian countries, don't we move out fairly early and get children fairly late?[/QUOTE] idk jobs are nowhere to be found so a lot of peeps stay at their parents' besides who wants to have children these days lol [editline]12th October 2016[/editline] but then again that could be because the place where i grew up was a horrible shitty small town of less than 10k peeps places like that should be burned down
Singaporean minister confirmed virgin on international news
[QUOTE=Tools;51192634]Singaporean minister confirmed virgin on international news[/QUOTE] You don't [I]need[/I] a lot of space, but it certainly makes it a lot more enjoyable
I mean, sure you can fuck in a closet, but then you really gotta consider if it's a quality fucking or not. I mean, sex is sex but no, no it is not.
As someone who has had sex in a cardboard box I can confirm that it is in fact possible
Encouraging your populationto have babies super early is a good way to dumb them all down
[QUOTE=Tools;51192634]Singaporean minister confirmed virgin on international news[/QUOTE] well she does have 3 children according to the article.
[QUOTE=Fapplejack;51193191]Encouraging your populationto have babies super early is a good way to dumb them all down[/QUOTE] ??? Why...?
Because you have much less time to take care of yourself (learning/training), you need to spend time for the kid(s)
Babies are far more valuable than university degrees economically in the long run, and there is plenty of time between degree end and infertility (~38)
yes but taking care of kid exhausts you, you won't have same brainpower at 18-25 than at 38 [editline]12th October 2016[/editline] you will need to take care of little brat for at least 18 years, and more it grows more problematic it becomes until kid stops being a kid
[QUOTE=Fourier;51193371]yes but taking care of kid exhausts you, you won't have same brainpower at 18-25 than at 38 [editline]12th October 2016[/editline] you will need to take care of little brat for at least 18 years, and more it grows more problematic it becomes until kid stops being a kid[/QUOTE] what a cynical and somewhat selfish way to look at child rearing
There are positives like fun and it's your damn kid. And no, it's not cynical what I wrote, it's realistic.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51193407]what a cynical and somewhat selfish way to look at child rearing[/QUOTE] fuck kids i wanna live life
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51193426]fuck kids i wanna live life[/QUOTE] you don't have to have kids if you don't want to, but is having kids not a part of living life?
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51193454]you don't have to have kids if you don't want to, but is having kids not a part of living life?[/QUOTE] ain't a part of mine [editline]12th October 2016[/editline] most baby related thing i'll be handling will be semen
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51193463]ain't a part of mine [editline]12th October 2016[/editline] most baby related thing i'll be handling will be semen[/QUOTE] then i wish you the best. hopefully you won't regret it when you're too old to do anything about it.
[QUOTE=Saturn V;51192402]but then again that could be because the place where i grew up was a horrible shitty small town of less than 10k peeps [B]places like that should be burned down[/B][/QUOTE] What the fuck.
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