Calgary ended water fluoridation. Cavities and other health problems are now rapidly rising.
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[url]http://www.calgaryherald.com/health/family-child/Dentists+report+more+cavities+kids+after+fluoride/8397862/story.html[/url]
[quote]Calgary pediatric dentists are noticing big changes in their young patients’ dental health since the city’s fluoridation program ended in 2011, and it’s not good.
With the fluoride gone, Dr. Sarah Hulland, president of the Alberta Academy of Pediatric Dentistry, said kids are coming into her office with bigger cavities than historically seen before.
“More importantly, the progression to getting larger from go is much more rapid, which is really bad,” Hulland said.
Dr. Leonard Smith, who has been working as a pediatric dentist in Calgary for 42 years, said he noticed an improvement in his patients’ teeth after fluoride was introduced.
“Now we’re seeing again the horror stories in a younger population of children since they’ve taken the fluoride out,” Smith said, citing higher levels of decay in young children and even babies as young as 11 months.
“I predicted we’d see a big increase 12 months from the time the city took it out. We are busier.”
He acknowledges that fluoride alone does not stop dental decay cold, but it helps prevent dental problems primarily in the high-risk population by changing the density of the enamel and making it more resistant to acids produced by bacteria.[/quote]
Oh well, I may have lost my teeth, but at least my paranoia has temporarily abated.
the inclusion of minute trace amounts of flouride in the water supply was one of the greatest modern achievements of oral hygiene
why the hell would you get rid of it
its like fucking removing indoor plumbing
It's obviously a conspiracy to convince people fluoride isn't evil!
[sp]joking if it's not obvious[/sp]
I can't believe some idiots would actually fucking do this.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;40694607]the inclusion of minute trace amounts of flouride in the water supply was one of the greatest modern achievements of oral hygiene
why the hell would you get rid of it
its like fucking removing outdoor plumbing[/QUOTE]
Same reason some places thought it was a good idea to remove wifi and phone reception, having it upsets the paranoid nutballs.
[QUOTE]The city agreed to spend $750,000 — the same amount it would have spent adding the substance to the drinking water supply — to go to anti-cavity programs for children in need who are living in poverty.
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The municipal government won't be controlling us any longer! I really don't understand the point of removing it if its actually beneficial. Now the dentist wait times will be even longer.
well at least they're not being controlled by the illuminati
[QUOTE=The golden;40694630]Note: *[B]Bigger[/B]* cavities.
Once a cavity is formed it doesn't take much to make it bigger. This is why they are filled ASAP. If kids actually fucking brushed their teeth properly then they wouldn't have any cavity problems at all.[/QUOTE]
even with brushing your still dealing with constant cavity risk with your teeth
and then your talking about children who absolutely detest brushing their teeth, and when they do, its for around likely 15 seconds rushed before they go eat or drink something sugary
flouride in the public water supply has done miracles to decrease cavities, its stupid that there was even a debate on whether to keep it or not
Well technically if you brush properly you'll be getting enough fluoride to make up for the lack of it in the water but we're talking about kids here. I'm in my 20s and still don't manage to brush twice daily, what's someone under 10 going to be doing
[QUOTE=Zeke129;40694663]Well technically if you brush properly you'll be getting enough fluoride to make up for the lack of it in the water but we're talking about kids here. I'm in my 20s and still don't manage to brush twice daily, what's someone under 10 going to be doing[/QUOTE]
closing the bathroom door, running the faucet for 2 minutes while he plays with his toys on the floor and then telling his parents he brushed his teeth
never going to get kids to brush their teeth correctly on a grand scale
[QUOTE=Loriborn;40694673]closing the bathroom door, running the faucet for 2 minutes while he plays with his toys on the floor and then telling his parents he brushed his teeth
never going to get kids to brush their teeth correctly on a grand scale[/QUOTE]
Nowadays I play with my phone in there
[QUOTE=Zeke129;40694680]Nowadays I play with my phone in there[/QUOTE]
i still play with my toy on the floor
[QUOTE=Hamsterjuice;40694643]well at least they're not being controlled by the illuminati[/QUOTE]
God damn it I was going to post that.
I bet the illuminati did this.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;40694673]closing the bathroom door, running the faucet for 2 minutes while he plays with his toys on the floor and then telling his parents he brushed his teeth
never going to get kids to brush their teeth correctly on a grand scale[/QUOTE]
You also need to make sure to run the brush under the water for a short period of time. If the brush is dry, they'll know you didn't brush.
Not that I would know or anything.
My teeth are like iron, when I was homeless for 8 months I hardly got to brush, yet my teeth had no cavities in that time. Only tarter buildup.
[QUOTE=The golden;40694736]Then they should at least be rusting like crazy, being iron.[/QUOTE]
well he didnt brush so obviously his teeth didnt get any water on them??
[QUOTE=Reshy;40694729]My teeth are like iron, when I was homeless for 8 months I hardly got to brush, yet my teeth had no cavities in that time. Only tarter buildup.[/QUOTE]
Holy shit you were homeless for 8 months?
Why?
Why would you not brush your teeth?
You get a horrible taste in your mouth if you don't brush after eating.
[QUOTE=Coffee;40694771]Why would you not brush your teeth?
You get a horrible taste in your mouth if you don't brush after eating.[/QUOTE]Depends on what you eat.
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;40694745]Holy shit you were homeless for 8 months?
Why?[/QUOTE]
Because my parents thought I was worthless and a waste of space and resources.
None of you have obviously heard of this
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity[/url]
Also from :[url]http://m.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/whats-calgary-drinking/article566673/?service=mobile[/url]
[quote]Indeed, medical experts would offer a "predictable reaffirmation" of fluoridation's benefits, because that's the almost universal conclusion of more than half a century of scientific research. Yes, too much fluoride can be a bad thing, causing occasional mottling of the teeth, but that undesirable side effect can be controlled by proper dosage. Other than that, the evidence is overwhelming that fluoridation reduces the incidence of cavities.[/quote]
[QUOTE=bull3tmagn3t;40694839]None of you have obviously heard of this
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity[/url][/QUOTE]
[quote]The only generally accepted adverse effect of fluoride at levels used for water fluoridation is dental fluorosis, which can alter the appearance of children's teeth during tooth development; this is mostly mild and usually only an aesthetic concern. Compared to unfluoridated water, fluoridation to 1 mg/L is estimated to cause fluorosis in one of every 6 people (range 4–21), and to cause fluorosis of aesthetic concern in one of every 22 people (range 13.6–∞). Here, "aesthetic concern" is a term used in a standardized scale based on what adolescents would find unacceptable, as measured by a 1996 study of British 14-year-olds.[14][/quote]
As safe as vaccines.
This sounds like complete bullshit and is probably a propaganda piece. I know because I live near Portland, Oregon, which is one of the few cities left that has never put fluoride in its drinking water supply and there is no real statistic correlation to support that any damage has come from that decision. On top of that, putting fluoride in the water supply is a really stupid idea. Brushing your teeth and then rinsing/spitting is fine but ingesting fluoride is poisonous, it's a fact, it fucks up your cells G-protein receptors. Fluoridating the water supply is beneficial in some ways, in that it is expensive and there's always people willing to take that dosh at the expense of other peoples health.
I just brush my teeth, there has never been fluoride artificially added to tap water here and I have not had a cavity in years.
[QUOTE=Ybbats;40694919]This sounds like complete bullshit and is probably a propaganda piece. [B] I know because I live near Portland, Oregon, [/B] which is one of the few cities left that has never put fluoride in its drinking water supply and there is no real statistic correlation to support that any damage has come from that decision. On top of that, putting fluoride in the water supply is a really stupid idea. Brushing your teeth and then rinsing/spitting is fine but ingesting fluoride is poisonous, it's a fact, it fucks up your cells G-protein receptors. Fluoridating the water supply is beneficial in some ways, in that it is expensive and there's always people willing to take that dosh at the expense of other peoples health.[/QUOTE]
citation needed; prove to me portland doesnt have any cavity issues and doesnt add any flouride
the amount of flouride put in the water is so miniscule that it never be able to affect your health adversely
secondly, how is this propaganda?
are you really saying that all these cavities are just [I]lies made by the government and media?[/I]
how can you say there is no correlation when studies have proven time and time again that flouride in the public water supply has been nothing but beneficial for people's teeth and do not affect their health?
btw you sound like a conspiracy theorist
[QUOTE=Reshy;40694793]Because my parents thought I was worthless and a waste of space and resources.[/QUOTE]
Why the hell did they think that?
[QUOTE=bull3tmagn3t;40694839]None of you have obviously heard of this
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride_toxicity[/URL]
Also from :[URL]http://m.theglobeandmail.com/commentary/whats-calgary-drinking/article566673/?service=mobile[/URL][/QUOTE]
again, there is not even close to enough flouride placed in the water supply that flouride toxicity can come into effect
you get more flouride in your body by swallowing a small amount of (non-flouridated) water while rinsing out toothpaste than you ever will drinking tap water
that toothpaste you spit out? you still swallow a good bit of it
that amount you swallow has more flouride than any tap water you will ever drink
if youre worried about flouride toxicity, dont brush your teeth period, and deal with cavities
Even if it doesn't accumulate like a toxin in the body, that still doesn't change that the source of the flouride is industrial waste. There are numerous sources supporting this that a google search will provide.
Seriously, I don't believe the conspiracy nut claims.
[url]http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation[/url]
[QUOTE=Ybbats;40694919]This sounds like complete bullshit and is probably a propaganda piece. I know because I live near Portland, Oregon, which is one of the few cities left that has never put fluoride in its drinking water supply and there is no real statistic correlation to support that any damage has come from that decision. On top of that, putting fluoride in the water supply is a really stupid idea. Brushing your teeth and then rinsing/spitting is fine but ingesting fluoride is poisonous, it's a fact, it fucks up your cells G-protein receptors. Fluoridating the water supply is beneficial in some ways, in that it is expensive and there's always people willing to take that dosh at the expense of other peoples health.[/QUOTE]
Bad goy, you do know that flouride in minute quantities in municipal water supplies isn't actually poisonous? Scientific consensus pretty much says "lol you nutter" [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation#Safety[/url]
In fact, it's up to you to prove to me that not only is it bad, but that what you claim for Portland is true.
[QUOTE=Reshy;40694729]My teeth are like iron, when I was homeless for 8 months I hardly got to brush, yet my teeth had no cavities in that time. Only tarter buildup.[/QUOTE]
I think oral health like anything is tied to genetics and the kind of flora in your mouth. I don't take good care of my teeth and I've had one cavity when I was like 7. Even with braces too. And my teeth are in great shape.
My gums on the other hand.
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