Police Officer Shoots 4 Year Old - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Gary Parsley says the shooting that happened on Chandler Drive in Whitehall, Friday afternoon, happened in an instant. Everything happened really fast,” he said. Parsley says a Columbus Police Officer came to his house to follow up on a hit-and-skip case Parsley says he was a victim of two weeks ago. He says when the officer stepped outside - a woman, two houses down, came running out and pleading for help. “She was wanting medical attention for her sister,” Parsley said. “That’s why she called the guy over there.” Parsley went back inside his house. A few seconds later he heard the gunshot. “I did hear the gunshot – it was very loud,” he said. “At first I thought maybe he’d shot the dog, because she was saying something about ‘Why would you try to shoot the dog?’ and he said something like the dog was attacking him, or something like that. Then, she started saying ‘You shot my kid!’.” According to CPD, when the officer approached the house the family’s dog charged him. “The officer fires one shot at the dog, misses the dog and accidentally shoots a four-year-old in the leg,” CPD spokeswoman, Denise Alex-Bouzounis, said.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2015/06/19/whitehall-ohio-4-year-old-accidentially-shot-by-columbus-police-officer.html[/url] Know he didn't mean to hit the kid, but fuck.

This would not have happened if that 4 year old had a gun. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Dumb snipe - unbanned for garrys birthday" - OvB))[/highlight] [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("" - OvB))[/highlight]

[QUOTE]"The officer fires one shot at the dog, misses the dog and accidentally shoots a four-year-old in the leg,"[/QUOTE] It seems like a fustercluck of a situation.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;48015773]This would not have happened if that 4 year old had a gun.[/QUOTE] start the thread off strong

Yay, the dog lived. Still, that's fucked up. EDIT: They both lived, good.

Our police officers should stop flinching with every tiny hint of trouble. Gunfire is meant as a last resort not a first hand solution whenever a pussy cop gets scared or hears a scary noise.

Sounds like the officer panicked from the lady screaming for help so when the dog rushed him he took a quick shot that wasn't aimed. Nobody deliberately did anything wrong, glad everyone involved is going to be alright.

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48015884]Sounds like the officer panicked from the lady screaming for help so when the dog rushed him he took a quick shot that wasn't aimed. Nobody deliberately did anything wrong, glad everyone involved is going to be alright.[/QUOTE] that kid is going to be messed up pretty bad mentally though. getting shot is enough to give trained soldiers PTSD; getting shot at 4 years old? in your own home? by a police officer? that shit is unimaginable

Do cops seriously shoot every dog that runs at them?

[QUOTE=TheHydra;48015942]that kid is going to be messed up pretty bad mentally though. getting shot is enough to give trained soldiers PTSD; getting shot at 4 years old? in your own home? by a police officer? that shit is unimaginable[/QUOTE] we can only hope he isn't old enough to start fully remembering things. (isn't it like 3-4 years that begins to develop?)

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;48015884]Sounds like the officer panicked from the lady screaming for help so when the dog rushed him he took a quick shot that wasn't aimed. Nobody deliberately did anything wrong, glad everyone involved is going to be alright.[/QUOTE] The officer deliberately fired his weapon without 1) assessing whether it was a situation that required deadly force 2) making sure there were no innocents in the line of fire. A child was shot. A person accidentally shot a child. I don't know what world you are living in where "Nobody deliberately did anything wrong" and "everyone involved is going to be alright."

Man, you could wait a second before shooting. It's better taking a wound from a dog than killing someone. Are American police taught to shoot without reason? Legit question, it's in the news so often.

[QUOTE=reevezy67;48015970]Man, you could wait a second before shooting. It's better taking a wound from a dog than killing someone.[/QUOTE] It wasn't "let dog wound you or kill child" It was "Let dog wound you (possibly blind/face maul) or shoot dog. Officer chose shoot dog, but accident happened and someone was hit"

[QUOTE=GeneralSpecific;48015966]The officer deliberately fired his weapon without 1) assessing whether it was a situation that required deadly force 2) making sure there were no innocents in the line of fire. A child was shot. A person accidentally shot a child. I don't know what world you are living in where "Nobody deliberately did anything wrong" and "everyone involved is going to be alright."[/QUOTE] Well the kid is going to make a full physical recovery and at that age is likely to make a decent mental recovery, the dog, officer, and women weren't injured at all. As for whether or not anyone did something wrong, I do agree, the officer should have kept his cool and gotten a better look at the situation before firing, but considering he was running over to someone screaming for help it's reasonable to assume that he was in an adrenaline rush state and at the time lacked the control to do such. Should something be done to ensure that he either is not allowed into such a situation again or that he will handle them better? Definitely, but did he intentionally cause this outcome in a reasonably stable state of mind? No.

[QUOTE=ShimTaco;48015980]It wasn't "let dog wound you or kill child" It was "Let dog wound you (possibly blind/face maul) or shoot dog. Officer chose shoot dog, but accident happened and someone was hit"[/QUOTE] I'm aware, I'd rather get mauled by the dog than kill it. It's a domesticated dog, I'd take my chances.

[QUOTE=Faunze;48015958]Do cops seriously shoot every dog that runs at them?[/QUOTE] No offense to anyone whose dog has been shot for charging an officer. But I've run from dogs that are fairly decent size, you DO NOT want a fucking dog with a hostile intent charging towards you. For once their fast fuckers and their bites HURT.

[QUOTE=RG4ORDR;48016046]No offense to anyone whose dog has been shot for charging an officer. But I've run from dogs that are fairly decent size, you DO NOT want a fucking dog with a hostile intent charging towards you. For once their fast fuckers and their bites HURT.[/QUOTE] he was let into the house because her sister needed medical attention. there was no reason to assume hostile intent on the dog's part.

The other side of this is that the woman asked him why he would try to shoot the dog before realizing the kid was shot. If the dog was truly a threat she probably wouldn't have said that, even if it is her pet.

[QUOTE=reevezy67;48016040]I'm aware, I'd rather get mauled by the dog than kill it. It's a domesticated dog, I'd take my chances.[/QUOTE] And then it bites your neck and you bleed out, at least the dog survived a little longer to be put down in a humane manner.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;48015942]that kid is going to be messed up pretty bad mentally though. getting shot is enough to give trained soldiers PTSD; getting shot at 4 years old? in your own home? by a police officer? that shit is unimaginable[/QUOTE] It isn't just the "being shot at" bit, though. It's also the "being required to shoot" part. Knowing that someone is trying to kill you can fuck you up. Knowingly trying to kill someone is worse.

[QUOTE=TheHydra;48016056]there was no reason to assume hostile intent on the dog's part.[/QUOTE] This wrong. Dogs are still animals and are territorial about their family. They are also very good at sensing emotions like authority and panic, so when a literal figure of authority comes in during a time of panic its very easy to set a dog off. I'm not defending the cop but don't EVER underestimate ANY animal. I can't really blame the victim but if they should have put the dog in a room and closed the door before calling anyone over.

Every time a thread like this opens up it always seems to be that my perspective is always drastically different from the average American on here. I guess in Australia we would just take the dog head on and yell for the owner. Or run. We don't have guns to defend ourselves so the thought of killing something other than for food doesn't even cross my mind. It's interesting to see everyones perspective on it.

[QUOTE=Faunze;48015958]Do cops seriously shoot every dog that runs at them?[/QUOTE] Should officers just not respond to buildings with territorial animals then? I mean the risk is too great for both the officer and the animal, so why not just not go in at all? I'm sure the emergency can work itself out.

It's a domestic dog, yes, but if it has the intention of fucking someone up, it is perfectly capable of doing so. You can't just stop it by wapping it on the nose with a newspaper and yelling "bad boy!" Animals don't work that way.

We've had dog training at my company, and let me tell you, it was eye opening. Most people think of dog bites like the bite you get when you accidentally pull on their tail too hard or something, a quick bite-and-release leaving several puncture wounds that may need stitches. In reality, that's the tip of the iceberg. Dogs have very sharp fangs, powerful jaw muscles, and even more powerful leg and neck muscles. They are built to hunt food by biting into their prey and then literally ripping chunks out of them. This is the exact same behavior home defense (attack) dogs are trained to do. If a dog gets ahold of something vital, such as a major artery, or even just a large portion of muscle or tendon, you are seeing a permanently disabling or fatal wound. Even worse, some attack dogs, like the ones frequently used by gangs, are specifically trained to leap for the throat. Knowing this, officers, public and private like me, are authorized to use lethal force when faced with the threat of great bodily injury or death. We are often expected to make these decisions in split seconds with what minimal information we can gather in that split second. That's where 90% of these 'shot unarmed man' or 'teenager shot' articles come from. In this case, the officer was presented with the information that a domestic dog was charging towards him and demonstrating objective characteristics of being aggressive and likely trying to attack. With the information in the article that's available right now and knowing only what's been made public, I would have fired at the dog to stop the threat as well. I've actually done it before. It's not fun. It's scary for everyone. The aftermath of dealing with the emotional owners also sucked. Dealing with explaining what I did to the police was also emotionally taxing. In the end, it was concluded that I acted lawfully in the defense of my own life. I still dream about it. That said, I'm not going to take on the debate about the kid being shot. I wasn't there, nobody else was, nobody else saw the sight picture on the gun the cop did, nobody else was under the strain that the officer was; the only people that can conclusively say whether the shot was negligent or not was the police officer himself. The internal review board will go over the case with the best possible information and form their own conclusions. I really do feel sorry for the kid, getting shot, no matter by who, is going to be a harrowing and traumatizing experience for him. I'm sure that's something the officer will have to live with for the rest of his life, too. I hope all of them pull through with minimum drama and suffering as expediently as possible.

[QUOTE=reevezy67;48016057]The other side of this is that the woman asked him why he would try to shoot the dog before realizing the kid was shot. If the dog was truly a threat she probably wouldn't have said that, even if it is her pet.[/QUOTE] This has happened before and it will happen again, and no matter how many times it happens the owners will always blame the cops instead of themselves. It's tragic sure, but it's the owner's fault for not training the dog properly or keeping it secured on a leash when outside like you're supposed to by law. [QUOTE=reevezy67;48016096]Every time a thread like this opens up it always seems to be that my perspective is always drastically different from the average American on here. I guess in Australia we would just take the dog head on and yell for the owner. Or run. We don't have guns to defend ourselves so the thought of killing something other than for food doesn't even cross my mind. It's interesting to see everyones perspective on it.[/QUOTE] Americans don't just go around shooting people's dogs for sport, and saying something like that just shows ignorance. If anything charges after you, and you fear for your own safety, you will do whatever you think is necessary to protect yourself. Unfortunately the officer had a gun, and a kid was injured. I'm not saying it's not the officer's fault, it assuredly was the moment he drew his firearm, but it all could've been avoided if the owner kept their dog restrained.

Ok... but the article doesn't mention anything about the dog or officer getting injured. I don't know if they're leaving specific details out on purpose to make the cop look guilty, but it sounds an awful lot like the officer and dog did not sustain any injuries during the whole event. If that was the case and the officer immediately stopped firing after hitting the kid, then why didn't he get mauled by the dog that was supposedly charging him in an aggressive manor?

[QUOTE=AlbertWesker;48016358]Ok... but the article doesn't mention anything about the dog or officer getting injured. I don't know if they're leaving specific details out on purpose to make the cop look guilty, but it sounds an awful lot like the officer and dog did not sustain any injuries during the whole event. If that was the case and the officer immediately stopped firing after hitting the kid, then why didn't he get mauled by the dog that was supposedly charging him in an aggressive manor?[/QUOTE] Ever seen a dog on the 4th of July? Loud noises, explosions specifically, horrify them. It likely hid.

[QUOTE=AlbertWesker;48016358]Ok... but the article doesn't mention anything about the dog or officer getting injured. I don't know if they're leaving specific details out on purpose to make the cop look guilty, but it sounds an awful lot like the officer and dog did not sustain any injuries during the whole event. If that was the case and the officer immediately stopped firing after hitting the kid, then why didn't he get mauled by the dog that was supposedly charging him in an aggressive manor?[/QUOTE] it's a gunshot inside a house, of course the dog is going to run off

[QUOTE=deadoon;48016066]And then it bites your neck and you bleed out, at least the dog survived a little longer to be put down in a humane manner.[/QUOTE] Sorry but if you can't wrestle a domesticated dog(Outside of obvious things like police dogs, pitbulls, etc), you're not able to wrestle a human down to the ground, and then why the hell are you a police officer.