Cops: Colorado woman punches, rubs her buttocks against $30 million painting
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[release][URL="http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&where1=DENVER&sty=h&form=msdate"]DENVER[/URL] — A 36-year-old woman was charged Wednesday after punching, scratching and sliding her buttocks against a painting worth more than $30 million, authorities in Colorado said.
Carmen Tisch is accused of pulling her pants down to rub up against the work, an oil-on-canvas called "1957-J no.2", by the late abstract expressionist artist Clyfford Still.
Tisch allegedly caused $10,000 worth of damage to the painting.
Tisch was charged with felony criminal mischief on Wednesday and has been held on a $20,000 bond since the incident in late December, said Lynn Kimbrough, spokeswoman for the Denver District Attorney's Office.
Citing the police report, the [URL="http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_19675102"]Denver Post reported[/URL] that the suspect was apparently drunk at the time.
Kimbrough said Tisch urinated after she rubbed up against the canvas at the recently opened Clyfford Still museum in Denver.
"It doesn't appear she urinated on the painting or that the urine damaged it, so she's not being charged with that," Kimbrough said according to the Denver Post.
"You have to wonder where her friends were," she said.
[URL="http://www.plusgallery.com/"]A Denver art gallery[/URL] owner, Ivar Zeile, told the Post that the painting could probably be restored as long as the canvas wasn't pierced.
"It does damage the piece, though, even people just knowing what happened," he added.
[B]Influential
[/B]Born in North Dakota in 1904, Still was considered one of the most influential of the American post-World War Two abstract expressionist artists, although he was not as well known as others such as Jackson Pollock.
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Still died in 1980, and the city of Denver worked for years with his widow, Patricia, to secure the single-artist museum. She died in
2005, and her husband's collection was bequeathed to the city.
Four of Still's works were auctioned by Sotheby's last year for $114 million to endow the Denver museum, which opened with much fanfare in November.
Because Still closely guarded his works, most of the pieces at his namesake museum had not previously been displayed.
Tisch will be formally advised of the charges on Friday, Kimbrough said.[/release]
i'm sure there are some who'd pay more because it'd come in contact with a woman's ass
How is the painting holding up? Does it think the lady is a complete ass?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/PWGnN.jpg[/img]
Looks like someone beat her to it.
how wonderfully postmodern
[quote]Citing the police report, the Denver Post reported that the suspect was apparently drunk at the time.[/quote]
oh
if there's shit all over it, it probably looks better than before.
Drop the C and her last name is an anagram for shit. How fitting.
[img]http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/ht_Carmen_Tisch_nt_120105_main.jpg[/img]
This is her.
One day I really want to throw paint at a canvas, say it represents the inner chaos of the McDonalds fry-cook, and make millions off of it.
This is awful. I don't care if you don't like abstract expressionism, this is a disgusting act that is incredibly disrespectful to the piece, and the (late)artist.
Personally, I'm a fan of this type of artwork, but even if I wasn't I would still find this to be an awful act.
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;34070621][img]http://i.imgur.com/PWGnN.jpg[/img]
Looks like someone beat her to it.[/QUOTE]
[b][i]THIS[/i][/b] is worth 30 million dollars?!
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;34070621][img]http://i.imgur.com/PWGnN.jpg[/img]
Looks like someone beat her to it.[/QUOTE]
"Art"
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;34070621][img]http://i.imgur.com/PWGnN.jpg[/img]
Looks like someone beat her to it.[/QUOTE]
brb going to make an image in paint and call it art. First buyer can get it for 1000M USD
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;34070621][img]http://i.imgur.com/PWGnN.jpg[/img]
Looks like someone beat her to it.[/QUOTE]
I unlocked that for my M4 ages ago.
[QUOTE=Ridge;34071565]I unlocked that for my M4 ages ago.[/QUOTE]
That one got me good.
But really, what do people see in that picture that makes it worth $30 million?
I really need to get into modern art.
[QUOTE=slayer20;34071594]That one got me good.
But really, what do people see in that picture that makes it worth $30 million?[/QUOTE]
It is a lot about the creation of the piece, as much as the piece itself. Abstract expressionism makes use of the subconscious to create an original piece that is not just portraying itself as a picture, but also as a series of actions that come together to create it.
Wikipedia has a nice article on it, if you want to read more.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Expressionism[/url]
Color Field paintings, (which I am also a fan of) are also relevant, as still was a Color Field painter as much as he was an Abstract Expressionist.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Field[/url]
Although I agree with you in the sense that I don't care for the incredibly high prices of these works, or indeed, any works of art at all.
[QUOTE=Grasp;34071666]It is a lot about the creation of the piece, as much as the piece itself. Abstract expressionism makes use of the subconscious to create an original piece that is not just portraying itself as a picture, but also as a series of actions that come together to create it.
Wikipedia has a nice article on it, if you want to read more.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Expressionism[/url]
Color Field paintings, (which I am also a fan of) are also relevant, as still was a Color Field painter as much as he was an Abstract Expressionist.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_Field[/url][/QUOTE]
that guy has some expensive fucking thoughts coming out of his subconscious
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;34070621][img]http://i.imgur.com/PWGnN.jpg[/img]
Looks like someone beat her to it.[/QUOTE]
This is why my friend stopped studying art at the University: Why go through all that effort to paint an elaborate land-scape or life-like portrait if some clown can half-ass slap some paint on a canvas (or a bucket, or a jar of piss, in fact, forget the paint on the last one), say "it's art!" and get millions for it?
30 mil or not
it's shit
Oh boy another thread where people get butthurt over expensive art.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/WCw7s.png[/img]
its my latest work
"starving african child"
you cant bad mouth it because art is subjective
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;34071733]This is why my friend stopped studying art at the University: Why go through all that effort to paint an elaborate land-scape or life-like portrait if some clown can half-ass slap some paint on a canvas (or a bucket, or a jar of piss, in fact, forget the paint on the last one), say "it's art!" and get millions for it?[/QUOTE]
my favorite excerpt about abstract expressionism
[quote]Later artists like Clyfford Still and Mark Rothko pushed the envelope even further, exploring the realms where art-work was little more than vacant musings on color and the quality of canvas, and the skills involved were so minimal that anyone wishing to wade into the lucrative pool would do so with impunity. The great benefit of abstract expressionist artwork is that it conveys the impression of sophistication, but has no content at all other than what the broker/critic asserts for it. This makes it perfect for a corporate setting. It is also often quite large, rendering it excellent for boardrooms, hallways, and executive offices.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;34071733]This is why my friend stopped studying art at the University: Why go through all that effort to paint an elaborate land-scape or life-like portrait if some clown can half-ass slap some paint on a canvas (or a bucket, or a jar of piss, in fact, forget the paint on the last one), say "it's art!" and get millions for it?[/QUOTE]
You realize that the people that make these paintings didn't just start from nowhere and slapped paint down. They master the fundamentals in doing things like landscapes and portraits and then go to this once they've done the more fundamental stuff.
In MOST modern art, the artist has a reason for everything they put down on the canvas based on how are eyes and brain work and try to capture visual interest instead of simply painting something realistic.
People's eyes are more drawn to a good modern art work than realistic type stuff and that's what these artists try to create.
here comes the kids who don't get modern art
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;34071733]This is why my friend stopped studying art at the University: Why go through all that effort to paint an elaborate land-scape or life-like portrait if some clown can half-ass slap some paint on a canvas (or a bucket, or a jar of piss, in fact, forget the paint on the last one), say "it's art!" and get millions for it?[/QUOTE]
Because you enjoy it? You go through the effort to create art not because you are getting paid, but because you enjoy creating it. If you do not, the art has no soul, and feels hollow, and empty.
[editline]6th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=TropicalV2;34071781]my favorite excerpt about abstract expressionism[/QUOTE]
fun fact, Rothko was very covetous and protective of his paintings, and turned down selling them [B]many[/B] times. Rothko's work was about capturing the sublime, that is why he used large simple shapes, upon large canvases, with stark colors.
[QUOTE=Jad Hinto;34070621][img]http://i.imgur.com/PWGnN.jpg[/img]
Looks like someone beat her to it.[/QUOTE]
"Modern Art" ladies and gentlemen.
[QUOTE=Lemonator;34071933]here comes the kids who don't get modern art[/QUOTE]
It's not something that's really taught to people anymore so they don't understand that it actually is more difficult than it looks.
I know a few people who do this kind of artwork and while they do this type of stuff mainly, they can create a realistic painting that looks practically like a photo if you wanted them to.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;34072041]It's not something that's really taught to people anymore so they don't understand that it actually is more difficult than it looks.
I know a few people who do this kind of artwork and while they do this type of stuff mainly, they can create a realistic painting that looks practically like a photo if you wanted them to.[/QUOTE]
It is rather sad, because honestly, the concept of what these artists are trying to capture is interesting in itself.
[QUOTE=Grasp;34072063]It is rather sad, because honestly, the concept of what these artists are trying to capture is interesting in itself.[/QUOTE]
Well creating art for the sake of art doesn't really have an audience any more. Instead the same concepts of modern art are put to practical use in things like Graphic design.
People don't realize that though when they read magazines, posters, or things like that.
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