• Japanese Maglev L-Zero reaches 310 MPH, Due to open in 2027
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[quote] [IMG]http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2013/09/07/l-zero-maglev-train.jpg[/IMG] Japan’s [URL="http://linear.jr-central.co.jp/index.html"]magnetic-levitation train[/URL] is still more than decade away from completion, but the L-Zero recently proved that it really is the world’s fastest train. On a 15-mile stretch of test track, the [URL="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-28/world-s-fastest-train-to-resume-trials-as-japan-plans-new-line.html"]L-Zero reached speeds of 310 miles per hour[/URL]. (499 Km/h) After the successful trials, Central Japan Railway Co. is going ahead with a 5.1 trillion yen ($52 billion) plan to build a 177-mile maglev line between Tokyo and Nagoya. CJR says the trip will take just 40 minutes on the L-Zero. CJR will begin construction in April and is predicted to be finished by 2027, though many doubt it will be finished in time. [URL="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-08-28/world-s-fastest-train-to-resume-trials-as-japan-plans-new-line.html"]Bloomberg points out [/URL]that Tokyo’s skyscrapers and the Japanese Alps present construction obstacles as the track needs to be a straight line to allow for high speeds. Maglev trains like the L-Zero rely on magnetic power to float above the ground, allowing the trains to nearly double the speed of the fastest bullet trains. Two other maglev trains are already operating: a train in Shanghai that travels at about 267 mph and a short-distance, low-speed train in Nagoya. The L-Zero maglev project is avoiding the budget pitfalls that have plagued high-speed rail projects in California and the U.K. by relying on cash flow, loans and bonds instead of government financing [URL="http://www.ibtimes.com/worlds-fastest-train-reaches-310-mph-trials-japans-l-zero-maglev-train-open-2027-1403464"] IB Times Source[/URL] [/quote]
Problem is with projects like this that take 15 years is the possibility of new, faster technology being developed within that time.
That train looks like some kinda metal barracuda. Also that kinda speed is handy, but still dangerous.
[QUOTE=Noss;42119554]Problem is with projects like this that take 15 years is the possibility of new, faster technology being developed within that time.[/QUOTE] but how far will you go? sure the technology would be here, but the time to implement them will still be very long, then you would be saying the exact same thing
[QUOTE=Noss;42119554]Problem is with projects like this that take 15 years is the possibility of new, faster technology being developed within that time.[/QUOTE] Cars and roads have been around for over a century, hasn't improved much in speed for the every day consumer, but is far from being outdated. Same goes for planes and non-high speed trains.
[img]http://screencloud.net/img/screenshots/f34877ff306c838303a8606217eb41a2.png[/img] That's pretty impressive against driving in a car. Currently according to google maps, you can do it in 2 hours, 49mins [img]http://screencloud.net/img/screenshots/276299143c2322fec599806eb7794677.png[/img] [editline]8th September 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Noss;42119554]Problem is with projects like this that take 15 years is the possibility of new, faster technology being developed within that time.[/QUOTE] Well, if they concentrate on carving out the rail infrastructure (Bridges, tunnels, flat ground for track etc), they can simply implement any new design instead.
Why can't we build these in the US instead of funding our war machine?
[QUOTE=Noss;42119554]Problem is with projects like this that take 15 years is the possibility of new, faster technology being developed within that time.[/QUOTE] One big advantage is the commercialization of superconducting magnets using Graphene reducing the cost of other potential superconductors that require liquid nitrogen/other coolants
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;42120385]Why can't we build these in the US instead of funding our war machine?[/QUOTE] Compare the population densities of Japan and the US. Japan: 336 people/km^2. US: 33.8 people/km^2.
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;42120385]Why can't we build these in the US instead of funding our war machine?[/QUOTE] Because Japan is protected by the US war machine, and therefor doesn't need its own
Such a great missed opportunity to name it F-Zero.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;42120420]Compare the population densities of Japan and the US.[/QUOTE] We need these fucking things, our train infrastructure needs a massive overhaul. And it'd put thousands into work And compare the sizes of both countries.
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;42120433]We need these fucking things, our train infrastructure needs a massive overhaul. And it'd put thousands into work And compare the sizes of both countries.[/QUOTE] However, this particular project cost $52 billion for [i]177 miles[/i]. That's less than the distance between Detroit and Chicago. Ferrying anything more than that distance would result in an immensely costly project that would exceed things like the damn education budget ($71 billion dollars) and also be that much more expensive to maintain.
Well once Japan does it and succeeds, every other country will make them and maybe even better. Just root Japan on as the leading technology developing country and acknowledge what your country does better. Edit: Penises.
[video=youtube;VVuOnbrIEKU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVuOnbrIEKU[/video] Heres an english promotional video. [video=youtube;k_eT4zq8eO0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_eT4zq8eO0[/video] in motion
Haw damn so swoopy-doopy looking
holy shit that sound is [I][B]insane[/B][/I]
Pretty soon we will have trains that will break the sound barrier.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;42120488]However, this particular project cost $52 billion for [i]177 miles[/i]. That's less than the distance between Detroit and Chicago. Ferrying anything more than that distance would result in an immensely costly project that would exceed things like the damn education budget ($71 billion dollars) and also be that much more expensive to maintain.[/QUOTE] Hey, some basic economics. A budget implies a timescale, usually annually. So your $71 Billion is probably PER YEAR, ad infinitum, increasing with inflation. This construction project is a buy once thing, and on top of that, it's been projected to take 15 years to build - so the cost is actually $3.466 billion a year for 15 years, then running costs offset by revenue. It's a lot cheaper than you're making it out to be.
Linear Induction is still cheaper. [img]http://www.crbasic.info/images/htt_80.jpg[/img] Propulsion of a magnetic field for speed with conventional rails for ease of construction.
[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;42120805]Pretty soon we will have trains that will break the sound barrier.[/QUOTE] Sonic booms would make that highly impractical
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;42120847]Sonic booms would make that highly impractical[/QUOTE] Ergo, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vactrain"]Vac-tube trains.[/URL]
on the bright side it can't derail because its not touching a rail in the first place
[QUOTE=dwt110;42120984]on the bright side it can't derail because its not touching a rail in the first place[/QUOTE] it's still guided by a rail.
God dammit US! I want one of these so I can go see my girlfriend in NC. The idea of a day long train ride is very unappealing to me. A train even COMPARABLE to this would cut that trip down to a matter of hours. God I hate how expensive and insane airlines have become over here. TSA isn't making it any better.
[QUOTE=Maximum Mod;42120786]holy shit that sound is [I][B]insane[/B][/I][/QUOTE] I'd hate to live anywhere near one.
[QUOTE=Cakebatyr;42121706]I'd hate to live anywhere near one.[/QUOTE] Other trains are incredibly long, already amazingly loud, and not going 500km/h, so you're listening to them forEVER. This would be nothing. A woosh every once in a while for all of 6 seconds.
Japan’s magnetic-levitation train is still more than decade away from completion, but the L-Zero recently proved that it really is [B]the world’s fastest train[/B]. On a 15-mile stretch of test track, the L-Zero reached speeds of 310 miles per hour. ([B]499 Km/h[/B]) Sure this thing can eventually go 600 km/h or faster, but 499 km/h doesn't make it the fastest. The speed record for experimental unconventional passenger train was set by the MLX01 manned "magnetic-levitation" train at [B]581 km/h[/B] (361 mph) in 2003. The TGV V150 did [B]574.8[/B] km/h in 2007. [video=youtube;BjSBEvaJQOI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjSBEvaJQOI[/video] So basicly L-zero is not the fastest train in the world but the MLX01 is along with the V150.
[QUOTE=Noss;42119554]Problem is with projects like this that take 15 years is the possibility of new, faster technology being developed within that time.[/QUOTE] If someone starts working on it today we could probably have a functioning Hyperloop testbed by then.
[QUOTE=evilfoxnl;42122501]Japan’s magnetic-levitation train is still more than decade away from completion, but the L-Zero recently proved that it really is [B]the world’s fastest train[/B]. On a 15-mile stretch of test track, the L-Zero reached speeds of 310 miles per hour. ([B]499 Km/h[/B]) Sure this thing can eventually go 600 km/h or faster, but 499 km/h doesn't make it the fastest. The speed record for experimental unconventional passenger train was set by the MLX01 manned "magnetic-levitation" train at [B]581 km/h[/B] (361 mph) in 2003. The TGV V150 did [B]574.8[/B] km/h in 2007. [video=youtube;BjSBEvaJQOI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjSBEvaJQOI[/video] So basicly L-zero is not the fastest train in the world but the MLX01 is along with the V150.[/QUOTE]T_T I want to ride one of those so badly. They just look so cool....not to mention seeing the landscape zoom by like that has to be a bit mind blowing.
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