The fucking comments sections on those videos are so hilariously dumb it's unbelievable.
I don't see the problem with this, I'm glad one country is trying to give women equality, even if they don't all take the offer.
Social engineering? What could possibly go wrong? :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;42542427]The fucking comments sections on those videos are so hilariously dumb it's unbelievable.
I don't see the problem with this, I'm glad one country is trying to give women equality, even if they don't all take the offer.[/QUOTE]
I guess that's because we're not identical, even tho some people want to believe that?
Just get rid of gender roles and let people do whatever they want to do. Don't try to force 50/50 split in every profession. That's just as bad as believing some professions are only for men and others only for women.
Sweden is like this too.
Probably even worse.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;42542547]I guess that's because we're not identical, even tho some people want to believe that?
Just get rid of gender roles and let people do whatever they want to do. Don't try to force 50/50 split in every profession. That's just as bad as believing some professions are only for men and others only for women.[/QUOTE]
More women would probably go for jobs like engineering, but no matter what norway does to try and level the playing field, there is still sexism within the culture, as seen by that man who said that women wouldn't want to be engineers because its a mans job. Once that older generation is gone I feel we'll see more women in areas that are traditionally mens.
if ancient history and recent history is true, Women are better equipped in the brain for social situations, gathering, etc (See more colors, steadier hands, far better at paying attention) and men are better equipped for hunting, fighting, being lazy as fuck, and industrial work
but both can [B]easily [/B]be seen doing a "Womans" job or a "Mans" job. Sometimes some women even will be seen doing a male cops job at thrice the efficiency. A male could do a "Females" cop at thrice the efficiency. Do you know why? because only an idiot can give a shit about these differences.
in the end, ok, whatever, I'm not sexist, but even if you admit the differences in men and women, who the fuck do you [I]actually[/I] believe men and women should get different pay and worst of all rights? Jizz has a 50/50 shot at being a man or a women, isn't that like seriously enough?
[QUOTE=J!NX;42542662]if ancient history and recent history is true, Women are better equipped in the brain for social situations, gathering, etc (See more colors, steadier hands, far better at paying attention) and men are better equipped for hunting, fighting, being lazy as fuck, and industrial work
but both can [B]easily [/B]be seen doing a "Womans" job or a "Mans" job. Sometimes some women even will be seen doing a male cops job at thrice the efficiency. A male could do a "Females" cop at thrice the efficiency. Do you know why? because only an idiot can give a shit about these differences.
in the end, ok, whatever, I'm not sexist, but even if you admit the differences in men and women, who the fuck do you [I]actually[/I] believe men and women should get different pay and worst of all rights? Jizz has a 50/50 shot at being a man or a women, isn't that like seriously enough?[/QUOTE]
Isn't the whole women seeing colours better complete bollocks made up by evolutionary psychologists to explain why women like pink? Despite the fact that historically pink was a mans colour.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;42542690]Isn't the whole women seeing colours better complete bollocks made up by evolutionary psychologists to explain why women like pink? Despite the fact that historically pink was a mans colour.[/QUOTE]
I'm just trying to work on the assumption it is [I]true[/I], not to say it's true or anything, to clarify that even with differences, why even support heavy inequality.
there are millions of millions of examples of both males and females excelling at a "Gender opposite" job, so what's [I]really[/I] the difference?
females will flock to "Female" jobs and males will flock to "Male" jobs, based on gender or culture, and nothing will change that ever. But there will always be a mix as well.
I wonder why they fight so hard for this 'gender equality'. Everyone should do what they think they're good at. What's the problem?
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;42542622]More women would probably go for jobs like engineering, but no matter what norway does to try and level the playing field, there is still sexism within the culture, as seen by that man who said that women wouldn't want to be engineers because its a mans job. Once that older generation is gone I feel we'll see more women in areas that are traditionally mens.[/QUOTE]
It's one thing to think that certain jobs are masculine and other feminine and there is demanding that only men do masculine jobs and only women do feminine jobs. That's what that guy meant, that not that many women are interested in this sort of job. Or should I put it this way, there are more men than women interested in being an engineer.
There are things that I consider masculine but I like when women do those things.
[QUOTE=Damn3d;42542737]I wonder why they fight so hard for this 'gender equality'. Everyone should do what they think they're good at. What's the problem?[/QUOTE]
Because if we don't do things to make the sexist establishment in certain careers get the fuck out of the way and let people in, they'll do their level best to hound women out.
[QUOTE=Silly Sil;42542813]It's one thing to think that certain jobs are masculine and other feminine and there is demanding that only men do masculine jobs and only women do feminine jobs. That's what that guy meant, that not that many women are interested in this sort of job. Or should I put it this way, there are more men than women interested in being an engineer.
There are things that I consider masculine but I like when women do those things.[/QUOTE]
I don't considering anything intrinsically masculine or feminine, all I see are arbitrary labels put on things due to culture.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;42542690]Isn't the whole women seeing colours better complete bollocks made up by evolutionary psychologists to explain why women like pink? Despite the fact that historically pink was a mans colour.[/QUOTE]
I can tell you for a fact that some women have a condition called tetrachromacy, meaning they four functioning cone cells, instead of three, giving them an advantage when differentiating colors.
[QUOTE=PederPauline;42543027]I can tell you for a fact that some women have a condition called tetrachromacy, meaning they four functioning cone cells, instead of three, giving them an advantage when differentiating colors.[/QUOTE]
so do some men
[QUOTE=PederPauline;42543027]I can tell you for a fact that some women have a condition called tetrachromacy, meaning they four functioning cone cells, instead of three, giving them an advantage when differentiating colors.[/QUOTE]
Most of those folks don't have the wiring to make use of that ability dude. It took 20 years to find someone who can actually do it.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;42543050]so do some men[/QUOTE]
Just as there are some women working in engineering jobs. Not the majority.
gender rights
gay rights
black rights
you're all fucking morons
should just be human rights
everyone treated equally for everything
fuck you and your gay group I don't give a shit
no special privileges for anyone
everyone the same across the board, should have been that way from the start, everywhere
[QUOTE=SoaringFallus;42543398]gender rights
gay rights
black rights
you're all fucking morons
should just be human rights
everyone treated equally for everything
fuck you and your gay group I don't give a shit
no special privileges for anyone
everyone the same across the board, should have been that way from the start, everywhere[/QUOTE]
You are the moron, everyone isn't treated equally and that's why there's many different groups trying to get equal rights.
You can't just say human rights because it's not every humans that are as mistreated.
[QUOTE=SoaringFallus;42543398]gender rights
gay rights
black rights
you're all fucking morons
should just be human rights
everyone treated equally for everything
fuck you and your gay group I don't give a shit
no special privileges for anyone
everyone the same across the board, should have been that way from the start, everywhere[/QUOTE]
The reason race, gay and womens rights groups exist is because there isn't equality for these groups. The aim is to get to a point were we no longer need these groups.
[QUOTE=SoaringFallus;42543398]
fuck you and your gay group I don't give a shit
[/QUOTE]
Whole point of your post compressed into one phrase you yourself included in it.
Why post then. It's not like anyone's demanding some kind of special rights anyway. You don't give a shit, well, that's completely fine - move on, what's your problem then?
[QUOTE=SoaringFallus;42543398]gender rights
gay rights
black rights
you're all fucking morons
should just be human rights
everyone treated equally for everything
fuck you and your gay group I don't give a shit
no special privileges for anyone
everyone the same across the board, should have been that way from the start, everywhere[/QUOTE]
"I hate blacks, fags, Mexicans, Jews, Asians and crackers equally you should all suffer equally"
what the fuck are you even saying, what the hell special privileges has anyone asked for, and if you don't give a shit then why even post at all???
everyone has to face a lot of different issues and have a lot of different wants to have to deal with them.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;42543631]The reason race, gay and womens rights groups exist is because there isn't equality for these groups. The aim is to get to a point were we no longer need these groups.[/QUOTE]
comparing black people, women and gays is silly because it's like comparing apples, cabbages and ham. They're all very food groups and have totally nothing in relation but all have the same problems and end up having the same bullshit happen to them.
[QUOTE=J!NX;42544120]"I hate blacks, fags, Mexicans, Jews, Asians and crackers equally you should all suffer equally"
what the fuck are you even saying
[/QUOTE]
"No one should have any rights at all to begin with!"
Makes sense, of no one has rights, no one has privileges, everybody's equal. Where was that red button, can't seem to find it...
[QUOTE=gudman;42544172]"No one should have any rights at all to begin with!"
Makes sense, of no one has rights, no one has privileges, everybody's equal. Where was that red button, can't seem to find it...[/QUOTE]
yes but that's just shitty and pessimistic as hell to go out of your way to "Equally" oppress everyone because in the end you're just going to make already oppressed groups even more oppressed because non gay people decided to treat them like shit and white people decided to treat blacks like shit. This is where "Slippery slope" argument literally fits in perfectly.
it makes zero sense. No one gay will ever get [I]treated[/I] equally, so you need laws to protect them from hate speech and bully in addition to laws that make them equal. But if everyone is equally oppressed then you have no additional rights for gays and they end up being treated WORSE because everyone is supposedly "equal".
you don't deal with 1 group having no rights by shitting all over everyone else and ruining it for everyone, that's like using a jack hammer to do a job a normal hammer could do
In the end if you treat people like shit then they're going to act like shit and it'll only make everything far, far worse.
To be honest, after watching this, it only confirmed why I always found people ignoring biology and genes to favor their arguments and then using them for others.
DNA decides everything down to size of my cock. It decides your outward appearance, how you're insides interact. The likely hood of disease and advantages you have. It decides what gender you are and what genders you're attracted to.
There is always room to maneuver, transsexuals and transgenders prove this, but its not going to stop the fact that I'm going to die of Alzheimer's most likely if its not lung cancer or liver cancer first. It decided my height, my hair, my organs, my sexuality, my brain which is where everything is derived from.
Culture plays a large role in creating norms and establishing/reinforcing those norms. It should be changed to be as neutral as possible but at the same time Culture is just a mirror. What is produced is one big ass mirror looking back at us and screaming, "LOOK AT IT."
To ignore the importance of Biology and DNA really doesn't help any argument, and in fact hurts it.
[QUOTE=J!NX;42544189]yes but that's just shitty and pessimistic as hell to go out of your way to "Equally" oppress everyone because in the end you're just going to make already oppressed groups even more oppressed because non gay people decided to treat them like shit and white people decided to treat blacks like shit. This is where "Slippery slope" argument literally fits in perfectly.
it makes zero sense. No one gay will ever get [I]treated[/I] equally, so you need laws to protect them from hate speech and bully in addition to laws that make them equal. But if everyone is equally oppressed then you have no additional rights for gays and they end up being treated WORSE because everyone is supposedly "equal".
you don't deal with 1 group having no rights by shitting all over everyone else and ruining it for everyone, that's like using a jack hammer to do a job a normal hammer could do
In the end if you treat people like shit then they're going to act like shit and it'll only make everything far, far worse.[/QUOTE]
Apparently, I haven't made it out to be totally obvious that I was joking and kind of parody SoaringFallus' post. I tried to make a statement that would be as stupid as what he wrote.
Haha guess I outdid him didn't I? :v:
[QUOTE=Swilly;42544907]DNA decides everything down to size of my cock.[/QUOTE]
If you cut it off, DNA won't do much to stop you.
[QUOTE=SoaringFallus;42543398]gender rights
gay rights
black rights
you're all fucking morons
should just be human rights
everyone treated equally for everything
fuck you and your gay group I don't give a shit
no special privileges for anyone
everyone the same across the board, should have been that way from the start, everywhere[/QUOTE]
specific groups need 'special treatment' as a temporary means of achieving equality with other groups. we can't just say 'no more inequality' and have it done with
[QUOTE=Quiet;42545032]If you cut it off, DNA won't do much to stop you.[/QUOTE]
Nah it won't, but its decided how it'll implode my brain with old age.
It shapes that organ that I use, you'll probably make some snide remark about how I'm not, how it works, how it functions. If you think about that for a moment, DNA covers how we'd respond to things. Its the same question of, "Is there free will?" Our brains are literally super computers using organic 1s and 0s to process everything. DNA is the instruction set.
[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;42545056]specific groups need 'special treatment' as a temporary means of achieving equality with other groups. we can't just say 'no more inequality' and have it done with[/QUOTE]
And that 'special treatment' may gear up things like racism and other discrimination in some cases.
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