• Pence did not learn that Flynn misled him on Russia until last week
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[quote] Vice President Pence first learned that former national security adviser Michael Flynn had misled him about the nature of his contact with a Russian official on Feb. 9, a full two weeks after other White House officials were briefed on the matter, an aide to Pence said on Tuesday. The timing indicates that Pence would have become aware of the controversy around the same time that a Washington Post report was published, detailing the degree to which Flynn had been in contact with the Russian ambassador to the United States on the issue of sanctions, Pence spokesman Marc Lotter said. "What I would tell you is that the vice president became aware of incomplete information that he had received on Feb. 9, last Thursday night, based on media accounts," Lotter said. "He did an inquiry based on those media accounts." In a January television interview, Pence said that Flynn had told him the issue of sanctions did not come up in his conversations with the Russian ambassador. The revelation adds a new layer to the confusion within the White House as it seeks to explain why it took more than two weeks for Flynn to resign his post, even though senior officials, including the president, were aware that he had not told Pence the truth [/Quote] [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/02/14/trump-was-told-weeks-ago-that-flynn-misled-vice-president-about-russia-contacts-white-house-says/?utm_term=.c3e33fb27de3"]The Washington Post[/URL] This means the entire WH alibi is thrown into question now, and Pence is on the outside.
so the rest of the white house knew about this for weeks and hid it from pence, and as soon as pence does find out flynn "resigns"?
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You're telling me that a bunch of con artists are conning each other? What a fucking surprise.
[QUOTE=Da Big Man;51823427]You're telling me that a bunch of con artists are conning each other? What a fucking surprise.[/QUOTE] Is there no honor among thieves anymore?
On the one hand, this could mean Pence is farther removed from the Trump presidency than we originally feared (daresay hoped?). On the other hand, this could simply the lines of communication in the White House being incredibly dysfunctional, which is apparently the case.
I'm willing to bet that Pence knew about it and that there's a concerted effort to hide his involvement. Damage control for when Trump inevitably is implicated and impeached.
Pence has been staying out of the spotlight for awhile now. Wouldn't surprise me if he really didn't know.
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;51823529]I'm willing to bet that Pence knew about it and that there's a concerted effort to hide his involvement. Damage control for when Trump inevitably is implicated and impeached.[/QUOTE] Are we living in a Tom Clancy novel?
[QUOTE]“They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States’ decision to expel diplomats or impose censure against Russia,” Pence said in an interview with CBS News last month, noting that he had spoken with Flynn about the matter. Pence also made a more sweeping assertion, saying there had been no contact between members of Trump’s team and Russia during the campaign. To suggest otherwise, he said, “is to give credence to some of these bizarre rumors that have swirled around the candidacy.” Neither of those assertions is consistent with the fuller account of Flynn’s contacts with Kislyak provided by officials who had access to reports from U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies that routinely monitor the communications of Russian diplomats.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]In his CBS interview, Pence said that Flynn had “been in touch with diplomatic leaders, security leaders in some 30 countries. That’s exactly what the incoming national security adviser should do.”[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Other officials were categorical. “I can tell you that during his call, sanctions were not discussed whatsoever,” a senior transition official told The Post at the time. When Pence faced questions on television that weekend, he said “those conversations that happened to occur around the time that the United States took action to expel diplomats had nothing whatsoever to do with those sanctions.”[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/national-security-adviser-flynn-discussed-sanctions-with-russian-ambassador-despite-denials-officials-say/2017/02/09/f85b29d6-ee11-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html"]the original WP article[/URL] For someone who is not absolutely shit-sure Flynn did not illegally engage in diplomacy, Pence sure acted like a windbag and wanted to tell anyone and everyone that Flynn is innocent. Something smells of an attempted cover-up to me.
[QUOTE=TurtleeyFP;51823712]Are we living in a Tom Clancy novel?[/QUOTE] Reality is often stranger than fiction. But really, is it unreasonable to think that the Republicans will want to distance themselves from Trump to save face and maintain control of Exec and Congress in this next election? If there ends up being more information that involves Trump imagine the fallout for the 2018 congressional race. It's reasonable to wonder with the Rosneft link and Trump's weird pro-Putin posturing that he might be next to be implicated. If Trump is, Pence needs to be clean or he's at risk of being impeached as well.
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