All I need is the tower, and no OS. The budget is just an up-to, there shouldn't be a reason to go above and beyond, it will just be for gaming, nothing "extreme"
It needs to be as silent as reasonably possible, so water cooling for the GPU is a must. This would be my first time setting up a water cooling system, but I think I can do it.
I'm thinking a GTX 570, 1TB HDD, about a 60gb SSD for windows 7. I don't know much about water cooling, but if there are no CPU water coolers without a fan, I'm ok with a regular quiet cooler, no overclocking here.
I also prefer sleek looking cases, preferably black though I don't care about looks as much as performance. No LEDs is perferred. I would also like 8GB of ram.
Processor type is irrelevant to me. I use an AMD processor now, but I've heard the sandy bridge is cool and fast. Would prefer Newegg.
You've made getting me components for you really fun, let me see what I can do.
Only problem is newegg have very limited water cooling components, any american website that has these?
I have heard that Frozen CPU is good, I believe it to be US based.
[url]http://www.frozencpu.com/[/url]
You're looking at something like this as the main components:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/kOHwe.png[/img]
As for the rest, you'll obviously need the reservoir, pump, piping (anti-kink if necessary), radiator, fluid and CPU/GPU waterblock but the tricky bit is the case you want and radiator sizing/spacing.
If you want it to be small you can go with something like a PC-A05, Milky on here used that on his water cooled build (however used a 360mm rad as he modified the roof) and
it looked quite amazing, although the stock A05 only supports a rear one 120mm fan so you'd need a small 120mm radiator to fit it limiting
cooling performance somewhat.
The case you'll have to pick out yourself there's just too much choice, if you want small an A05 with small radiator can work, then you have the 650D or 400/500r's, a bunch of Lian Li's
and raven's seeing as the penetrators it comes with are silent on low and push air very well. CM690II also has great watercooling options in a cheap package but on that budget I'd get something a little more luxurious personally.
As for the GPU block, make sure to get a refence card like the one I put in the basket above then you can get really anything, Heatkiller and EK are respectable, something like this:
[url]http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12905/ex-blc-902/Heatkiller_GPU-X_GTX_570_580_-Hole_Edition-_nVidia_GTX_570580_Reference_Design_Full_Coverage_Water_Block_15511.html[/url]
To be honest, I was mainly looking for someone who could get the right quality water cooling parts. As I said, I don't know much about water cooling, so this thread was mainly for the right water cooling build.
Choose a case and it'll be easy.
If you want silent a Fractal R3 will be good
[url]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352002[/url]
What do you think?
That's a great one, looks fine.
Ok, I did the best I could and it looks good, I've made a diagram showing what it would look like
and my personal favourite places to put the watercooling components, I checked and a 280mm THICK
radiator will fit into an R3 without blocking anything with the 140mm fans (just don't get RAM
with big heatspreaders, in-fact you don't need RAM with heatspreaders at all).
[b]Pump -> Reservoir -> Radiator -> CPU block -> GPU block -> Pump[/b]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/VfCsk.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wwwGO.png[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/iynRD.png[/img]
Totals $1580 for everything.
Hope this helps, and fan wise I have no clue, I know almost nothing about which fans
are good and which aren't, but there are definitely quite a few choices that push a decent amount
of air and are silent. Also keep in mind all of these components are all black/white except the power supply, so it'll look great.
Shouldn't you have it going waterblocks -> radiator?
As wouldn't it cool better?
Also don't get Agility 3 SSD, Vertex 2 outperforms it for ~same price.
[QUOTE=SataniX;31912829]Shouldn't you have it going waterblocks -> radiator?
As wouldn't it cool better?
Also don't get Agility 3 SSD, Vertex 2 outperforms it for ~same price.[/QUOTE]
I've had a look around and this loop performs the best, the fluid is coldest when coming straight from the radiator, the fluid is warmer
in the reservoir but this isn't a problem.
But honestly according to a lot of experienced watercoolers that I know the loop order doesn't matter at all seeing as the water temperature
limbo's out when at load for a few minutes. You should go with whatever loop fit's easiest (direct route) with as little bends as possible for an optimal setup.
Putting the radiator at the top also eases the bleeding process.
I also messed up the diagram a little, you can put the piping/barb in both ends of the GPU block so the sharp 180° isn't necessary.
To dampen sound even more, purchase a noise dampening kit: [url]http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7846/noi-19/AcoustiPack_ULTIMATE_Professional_Sound_Dampening_Pack_APU.html?tl=g7[/url] (there are much cheaper products, too, i cant remember the website/brand) and possibly a silicone PSU vibration dampener, they might have something similar for HDD. I also don't see any fans, make sure you get good quality fans, and possibly a fan controller, too.
The R3 comes with noise dampening stuff but I suppose you could put even more on, and yes fans I have no idea what to pick, surely someone knows of some seriously quiet ones that push a decent amount of air?
[QUOTE=David Tennant;31913175]The R3 comes with noise dampening stuff but I suppose you could put even more on, and yes fans I have no idea what to pick, surely someone knows of some seriously quiet ones that push a decent amount of air?[/QUOTE]
oh okay
[QUOTE=David Tennant;31913175]The R3 comes with noise dampening stuff but I suppose you could put even more on, and yes fans I have no idea what to pick, surely someone knows of some seriously quiet ones that push a decent amount of air?[/QUOTE]
Be Quiet!'s are good iirc.
Thanks a ton for the help David, is there a chance I can get the links to the water cooling components/computer parts?
[QUOTE=David Tennant;31913175]The R3 comes with noise dampening stuff but I suppose you could put even more on, and yes fans I have no idea what to pick, surely someone knows of some seriously quiet ones that push a decent amount of air?[/QUOTE]
For radiators you have a different priority to case fans, which is where something like a Gentle Typhoon or if you want more performance and a lot more noise some Yate Loons would do well.
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[QUOTE=SataniX;31912829]Shouldn't you have it going waterblocks -> radiator?
As wouldn't it cool better?
Also don't get Agility 3 SSD, Vertex 2 outperforms it for ~same price.[/QUOTE]
The order doesn't really matter in terms of cooling as the liquid temperature will balance out after a little while. All you need to make sure is that the pump is directly after the reservoir.
Also in terms of what case to use if you want the easiest job get a 800D/700D they are very very easy to build a loop into.
And regarding this list:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/wwwGO.png[/img]
It's pretty good but I would say swap the EK blocks for the new 'EN' blocks which do not suffer from corrosion, and you can loose both the Feser corrosion blocker, and just pick up some distilled de-ionized water from your local hardware shop than buy the overpriced Feser stuff. I would also recommend as your priorities are noise level get a Swiftech MCR320 radiator, then you can use slower fans and not loose much performance. If you do change to a 700D/800D case use a tube reservoir as they are just plain easier to use than those bay ones. I would also suggest a Laing DDC pump with a EK X-top over the Phobya branded one as it allows for more options. The rest seems ok, black tubing looks cool but it is impossible to see air bubbles or and potential problems in the tubing so you might want to consider some plain opaque tubing for your first go.
[editline]24th August 2011[/editline]
Oh I just saw that rad is a 280 I would recommend using a 120mm fitting rad mainly as you have more choice of fans at that size over 140mm. And I would highly suggest a minimum of a 360 rad for a combined loop of GPU and CPU.
Is there a reason I should get the MSI 570 instead of the EVGA? It has very sub-par reviews, almost half are one star.
[QUOTE=Sir Colton;31921957]Is there a reason I should get the MSI 570 instead of the EVGA? It has very sub-par reviews, almost half are one star.[/QUOTE]
If you are going to be watercooling just try to find a reference design board to make it easier for yourself, so you don't have to worry about compatibility with the block.
I think I did ok to say it was my first watercooling build, I couldn't fit the 700/800D in the budget
though and even if I could the whole "silent" and "small" things were in the back of my head.
Also the R3 can't fit a 360 rad and although it would be beneficial I think for someone who isn't going to overclock
a whole lot or at all a 240/280 should be more than enough.
Although it's nice to learn, it takes quite a lot of planning to get everything to fit.
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