Judge Decides Apple Doesn't Really Need All The Android Development Details
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Two weeks ago, the judge in Apple's case against Motorola ordered Google and Moto to hand over details on Android development. Naturally, Motorola appealed, and managed to change Judge Posner's mind. While the company isn't getting away scot-free (or at least, not yet), he did say that "[Apple's] motion is vague and overbroad and Motorola's objections are persuasive." In other words, Apple needs to tone down their request and make sure things are relevant and specific (or in my words, "Apple needs to stop requesting all the shit they can think of").
Presumably from here Apple will try to narrow things down as little as possible to get the request to hold, at which point Motorola will appeal it and both sides will hope for the best (before doing it all over). Both trials (Apple vs. Moto, then Moto vs. Apple) are set to take place back-to-back in June.
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[URL="http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/03/21/judge-decides-apple-doesnt-really-need-all-the-android-development-details-tells-apple-to-make-request-less-vague-and-broad/"]Ketchup[/URL]
Victory, not against apple, but for capitalism. Luckily this Judge realised that having several companies hand all their secrets over to one company (that already [I]dominates[/I] a massive market) is a very bad and stupid idea.
Hahaha yes.
If anything, it is apparent Apple would use such details to their advantage - specifically to improve their products.
Of course Apple needs the development details! It's not like they already have the worst business practices.
I mean, I love Apple and the products they produce, but their administration is just terrible. They act like they can just walk on their competitors, but I'm going to love the day when they get a taste of their own medicine.
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35231771]If anything, it is apparent Apple would use such details to their advantage - specifically to improve their products.[/QUOTE]
Apple: Files incredibly broad patents and then sues competitors for making things even remotely similar, demands to be able to see what competitors are researching so they can copy it.
The way Apple dominates the court-rooms (for the most part) makes it feel like it is a monopoly in all but name. Example - it patents every single feature you can fit onto a tablet. Interaction based functions? PATENTED.
Does that mean I can patent a keyboard so no computers or macs can use it without my permission? Can I patent monitors? Nobody else has and this retarded Apple-logic makes it seem like it would be just as legitimate to patent the above as it is to patent all the basic shit that they have and the courts have approved.
If the legal courts weren't out of their fucking minds (Or just sitting snug in Apple's wallet), they'd step back and set out some new laws regarding universal patents on basic shit like this.
Fuck Apple.
[QUOTE=StormHammer;35231851]The way Apple dominates the court-rooms (for the most part) makes it feel like it is a monopoly in all but name. Example - it patents every single feature you can fit onto a tablet. Interaction based functions? PATENTED.
Does that mean I can patent a keyboard so no computers or macs can use it without my permission? Can I patent monitors? Nobody else has and this retarded Apple-logic makes it seem like it would be just as legitimate to patent the above as it is to patent all the basic shit that they have and the courts have approved.
If the legal courts weren't out of their fucking minds (Or just sitting snug in Apple's wallet), they'd step back and set out some new laws regarding universal patents on basic shit like this.
Fuck Apple.[/QUOTE]
You used A**le and M*c approximately six times within your comment. That'll be $100,000,000,000 and all of your deepest, darkest secrets. You obviously violated the copyright that A**le has on the word "A**le*.
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35231771]If anything, it is apparent Apple would use such details to their advantage - specifically to improve their products.[/QUOTE]
Apple can't improve shit :v:
Legal courts need to start using more common sense. When you only stick to fine-print things get stoopid.
Apple: Making a profit off of other companies technology since 1976.
[QUOTE=froztshock;35231800]Apple: Files incredibly broad patents and then sues competitors for making things even remotely similar, demands to be able to see what competitors are researching so they can copy it.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I take that statement back. Apple's products will never do what [I]Android does[/I].
Customization? Actually being able to access the filesystem? Developing and using our own apps, without paying Apple?
Apple will never have the balls to give users what makes Android so good.
This is coming from someone who used an iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, and iPhone 4. All of them jailbroken and unlocked.
[QUOTE=sphinxa279;35232071]Apple can't improve shit :v:[/QUOTE]
As I said, totally take back that statement.
And here I thought that the judge was a complete moron
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35249128]Actually, I take that statement back. Apple's products will never do what [I]Android does[/I].
Customization? Actually being able to access the filesystem? Developing and using our own apps, without paying Apple?
Apple will never have the balls to give users what makes Android so good.
This is coming from someone who used an iPhone 3G, iPhone 3GS, and iPhone 4. All of them jailbroken and unlocked.
As I said, totally take back that statement.[/QUOTE]
Oh tell me about it. I got my hands on a kindle fire a few months back and I've already turned it into my portable gaming station. Thing's awesome for old RPGs and the like. No jailbreak or custom firmware required.
[QUOTE=The Anarchist;35231771]If anything, it is apparent Apple would use such details to their advantage - specifically to improve their products.[/QUOTE]
It'd be suicide for a company as big as apple to do this. The reason they are doing it is so that they can audit the code to see if android breaks any of their patents so they can sue them into non-existence.
I must admit when they announced iOs5 and had live previews of their notification system I was like "you don't like people copying off your shit yet you do it". Apple makes good products don't get me wrong on that one but they do tend to steal from their competitors and then patient it..
Scumbag move
[QUOTE=AaRoNg11;35249749]It'd be suicide for a company as big as apple to do this. The reason they are doing it is so that they can audit the code to see if android breaks any of their patents so they can sue them into non-existence.[/QUOTE]
Tomorrow's headline: Apple patents loop functions and clearing memory
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;35250538]I must admit when they announced iOs5 and had live previews of their notification system I was like "you don't like people copying off your shit yet you do it". Apple makes good products don't get me wrong on that one but they do tend to steal from their competitors and then patient it..
Scumbag move[/QUOTE]
Like what they did after Steve Jobs saw Xerox had made a Operating System with a GUI?
The big problem isn't Apple copying other companies products and designs, it's that they're throwing a big tantrum every time other companies copy [B]THEIR[/B] ideas.
[QUOTE=Van-man;35250764]Like what they did after Steve Jobs saw Xerox had made a Operating System with a GUI?
The big problem isn't Apple copying other companies products and designs, it's that they're throwing a big tantrum every time other companies copy [B]THEIR[/B] ideas.[/QUOTE]
The irony with the Apple vs Xerox is so thick that I need a gas mask, considering that Apple stole from Xerox and then Apple accused Xerox (and every other electronics company under the sun) of stealing from them.
[QUOTE=sphinxa279;35232071]Apple can't improve shit :v:[/QUOTE]
except for the phone and tablet market
remember that?
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[QUOTE=Van-man;35250764]Like what they did after Steve Jobs saw Xerox had made a Operating System with a GUI?
The big problem isn't Apple copying other companies products and designs, it's that they're throwing a big tantrum every time other companies copy [B]THEIR[/B] ideas.[/QUOTE]
you must be fucking kidding me, this argument, again?
besides apple paying xerox in stocks worth millions, they completely stole the GUI, right?
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