In Federal Suit, Man Claims DPD Stormed His House For No Reason, Beat the Hell Out of Him - Polidicks

[quote]Every once in a while, amid the stacks of semi-literate, pro se habeas corpus petitions, trademark suits and product liability complaints, there comes a federal filing so disturbing, so completely awful, that it leaves the reader with nothing but questions. This week, it's Danny Cantu v. The City of Dallas and a whole passel of named and unnamed police officers. According to the complaint, which made its way to Courthouse News yesterday, Cantu, a diesel mechanic, was making his lunch January 22, 2010, when he saw a few cops streaking across his yard. A deafening explosion shook the room as a flash bomb shot through the door. Nearly 20 officers crashed in. "Get on the ground!" they allegedly ordered him. Cantu, according to the complaint, obliged and was zipcuffed. Inexplicably, the filing claims, the officers kicked and punched him until he was unconscious, lying in a pool of his own blood on the kitchen floor. Meanwhile, they searched his house and allegedly didn't find what they were after. Cantu's alleged butcher's bill: a broken orbital bone, a broken nose, a concussion, traumatic brain injury, a loss of vision in his left eye and loss of hearing in his left ear. According to his complaint, the "injuries required surgical intervention and caused significant scarring and disfigurement." Cantu was arrested but never charged with a crime. Indeed, a search of county court records yielded no charges under that name. Dallas Police spokesman Kevin Janse told Unfair Park neither the raid nor the name rang a bell. Nobody from the City Attorney's office was available to comment. None of Cantu's attorneys -- there are three -- responded to many messages left for comment. And nobody answered calls placed to a number listed under Cantu's name. He's seeking unspecified damages to compensate him for his medical bills, mental anguish and disfigurement, among other things Now for a little unsubstantiated speculation: If the allegations in the lawsuit are true, did police hit the wrong address? Or did they hit the right address on wrong information? If the parties don't settle this quietly and if we hear back from Cantu or his attorneys, we'll update accordingly. [/quote] Source: [url]http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2012/01/lawsuit_claims_dallas_police_s.php#more[/url]

what the fuck

it doesn't make any sense not even a 'bad apple' would do something like this it's just too fucking random

what the christ

How can you fuck up on this scale?

Reminds me of that couple that had their flat raided like 30 times mistakenly

Now this is a wild shot - But what if his assailants weren't really cops?

read DPD and thought of the delivery company (UK), painted an interesting mental picture :v: and... this is terrible, I hope he gets compensation

Sounds similar to one I've heard. The police also taunted him if this is the same guy the article is referring to.

This reminds me of a similar story I once heard, only the twist was they weren't cops. They were just dressed up in stolen uniforms and gear and claimed to be cops, they were just storming homes looking for drugs to steal.

[QUOTE=archangel125;34408069]Now this is a wild shot - But what if his assailants weren't really cops?[/QUOTE] Probably this, especially considering the Police Department has no reports of any sort of major police activity taking place in the neighborhood.

What the fuck? The only explanations would be either the police had hit the wrong adress (somehow), or some rival big busnuiess decided to fuck with the cops to get their small competitor out of the picture. See what happened to John Delorean? the other car companies ratted him out and tricked him into a drug deal. trust me, Corporate war or VERY bad failure of police intelligence are likely the only explanations for this. either that or Cantu's pants are on fire.

Not knowing exactly what went down is going to bother me terribly were they police impersonators? were they real cops and are they now covering their asses? perhaps Danny Cantu inflicted a broken orbital bone, a broken nose, a concussion, traumatic brain injury, a loss of vision in his left eye and loss of hearing in his left ear on himself and this is some wild conspiracy? perhaps I will never know.

[QUOTE=archangel125;34408069]Now this is a wild shot - But what if his assailants weren't really cops?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34409715]Probably this, especially considering the Police Department has no reports of any sort of major police activity taking place in the neighborhood.[/QUOTE] It says he was arrested. Criminals pretending to be cops don't usually bring their victims to jail afterwards. [QUOTE=Article] Cantu was arrested but never charged with a crime[/QUOTE] Also Flash Bangs are not items that can be acquired by the average person, no matter how determined. Even if you could get one or two what is the purpose? To cause more of a commotion whilst you impersonate officers? It's a waste of resources for a criminal making an crime and attract more attention. And they used zip ties. Whilst not hard to get, they're not really something the average criminal would think of, it's the little details like that which shows they were really cops. A criminal would assume handcuffs you buy cheap at costume shops would be sufficient and accurate but in raids like this they use zipties. Also it says there were at least twenty officers. Doesn't seem like a bunch of imposters to me. Perhaps they were just bad cops and everyone was in on it? I doubt that too, it's not that easy to keep a secret and nothing was stolen from him (as far as we know) so I just think it was a raid (either the wrong house or wrong information) and they brutalized the guy because of whatever reason and now they're covering their asses as best they can.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;34410643]It says he was arrested. Criminals pretending to be cops don't usually bring their victims to jail afterwards. [/QUOTE] [quote]4.02. Defendant Officers and/or Defendants John Doe 1 through 10 did not “knock and announce,” nor did they offer Plaintiff Danny Cantu any opportunity to let them into the home in a peaceful manner or otherwise attempt to obtain any consent from Plaintiff Danny Cantu. Rather, Defendant Officers and/or Defendants John Doe 1 through 10, descended upon Plaintiffs’ home by quickly running into the back yard, shooting a flash bomb through the back window and breaking the door down. 4.03. Upon forcefully and violently entering Plaintiffs’ home, Defendant Officers and/or Defendants John Doe 1 through 10 screamed at Plaintiff Danny Cantu to “get on the ground!” Plaintiff Danny Cantu immediately complied by laying face first on the kitchen floor and spreading his arms and legs while facing the floor beneath him. Defendant Officers and/or Defendants John Doe 1 through 10 then proceeded to “zip tie” Plaintiff Danny Cantu’s hands behind his back placing him under arrest. Not satisfied with shooting bombs off in Plaintiffs’ home, violently breaking the door down and screaming at Plaintiff Danny Cantu for no reason, Defendant Officers and/or Defendants John Doe 1 through 10 then proceeded to repeatedly kick and beat Plaintiff Danny Cantu in and about the face, head and neck, causing significant bodily injuries which rendered him unconscious and lying in a pool of his own blood. 4.05. Plaintiff Danny Cantu was not charged with any crime in connection with the January 22, 2010 search and arrest conducted by Defendant Officers and/or Defendants John Doe 1 through 10. Plaintiff Danny Cantu was not charged with resisting arrest, assault or any other criminal activity. Defendant Officers and/or Defendants John Doe 1 through 10 executed the search warrant and subjected Plaintiff Danny Cantu to excessive force for unknown reasons.[/quote] So you're implying a bunch of officers threw a "flash bomb" (never specified if it was a flash grenade or just something designed to give off a flash) into a house, went and ziptied someone before violently beating him with their fists and feet, then ranscaking the place and leaving? [quote][B]FALSE ARREST[/B] 5.03. Plaintiff Danny Cantu was arrested and deprived of liberty without due process of law. In arresting Plaintiff Danny Cantu, Defendants Officers and John Does 1 through 10 acted beyond the bounds of their lawful authority under State law. Specifically, Defendants lacked probable cause to arrest Plaintiff Danny Cantu. At the time of the arrest, no reasonable police officer would have concluded that Plaintiff Danny Cantu had committed or was committing an offense. Accordingly, Defendant Officers and John Does 1 through 10 violated Plaintiff Danny Cantu’s constitutional rights by falsely arresting him.[/quote] When it says he was arrested, it's talking about how he was ziptied against his will, not being sent down (unconscious and suffering severe traumatic brain injury) to the local jail to "shake it off." [url]http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/01/25/DallasCops.pdf[/url] (Court document)

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;34410643]And they used zip ties. Whilst not hard to get, they're not really something the average criminal would think of, it's the little details like that which shows they were really cops. A criminal would assume handcuffs you buy cheap at costume shops would be sufficient and accurate but in raids like this they use zipties.[/QUOTE] You knew about it. Besides, zip ties are much easier to get than handcuffs, you can find them at any department store, and they're really cheap.

[QUOTE=archangel125;34408069]Now this is a wild shot - But what if his assailants weren't really cops?[/QUOTE] Read the article a little harder next time, it states the police responded about it and said no doorbells were rung and there was no announcement. ~edit~ implying that they knew about this beforehand and received a police report

[QUOTE=Killerjc;34411383]Read the article a little harder next time, it states the police responded about it and said no doorbells were rung and there was no announcement.[/QUOTE] If you're referring to this: [quote]Dallas Police spokesman Kevin Janse told Unfair Park neither the raid nor the name rang a bell.[/quote] That's just the blog's way of saying the Police claim the raid never happened and Cantu wasn't someone they were looking for (or was in the system, possibly.) To be honest, it'd be best to use the Court Document when arguing if this was an actual police raid or not. Court documents by their nature are meant to be accurate and un-biased accounts of the incident, in comparison to a blog that opens the article with an image of large-armed men holding assault rifles and wearing SWAT uniforms.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;34411236]So you're implying a bunch of officers threw a "flash bomb" (never specified if it was a flash grenade or just something designed to give off a flash) into a house, went and ziptied someone before violently beating him with their fists and feet, then ranscaking the place and leaving? When it says he was arrested, it's talking about how he was ziptied against his will, not being sent down (unconscious and suffering severe traumatic brain injury) to the local jail to "shake it off." [url]http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/01/25/DallasCops.pdf[/url] (Court document)[/QUOTE] No, I'm against the assumption that they're imposters and that it was just a raid gone really wrong or something. I didn't have access to those court documents until just now, so I didn't really have anything to go on until you posted them except the article and how they worded it. That court document though helps clarify my stance. Since it specifies now that "They shot a flash bomb through his window." which implies it was a projectile. As if flash bangs are hard enough to acquire this one was fired from a launcher which would be even harder to acquire. I mean, it's possible that it was a flare gun or legal you can easily buy or something but I'm not sure it would break a window and 'bang' or anything. [editline]27th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;34411309]You knew about it. Besides, zip ties are much easier to get than handcuffs, you can find them at any department store, and they're really cheap.[/QUOTE] Zipcuffs are different than regular zipties. It may be possible they just put two zipties together and left them open wide enough to put someones wrists in but I've tried doing that before with ties I bought at the store and they're never big enough. Usually when Police raid a home they ziptie everyone they find, regardless if they're an 80 year old grandmother or what. They zip them up and keep moving on through the house. And the only reason I know about it is because I'm really into Police and Military stuff. I collect gear, play Airsoft and all that. Read military magazines and articles and so on. To the average person they don't really know about zipties being used for detainment anymore because it's not a piece of knowledge that they care about or come to learn in very often. [editline]27th January 2012[/editline] Usually I take the side of the Police because I think that whole "Fuck the police" culture is retarded but in this circumstance, without some really compelling evidence they're not real police officers I'm going to assume they were because getting twenty people to commit a crime like this without any serious reward, equipping them with uniforms and whatever equipment seems like a lot of effort and a lot of trouble for something of relatively little value in the end. It doesn't state they took anything. All they did was beat the guy up. If I got twenty guys, dressed them up as cops and planned to do a fake no-knock warrant I'd pick a guy I knew had some money and take stuff from him. Jewelery, laptops, money etc. but I'm pretty sure this guy would have noticed something like that missing. [editline]27th January 2012[/editline] What the hell are we even arguing over? In the PDF they have defendants from the Police Department with badge numbers and everything. [url]http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/01/25/DallasCops.pdf[/url]

Welcome to America. The supposedly best and free-est nation in the world. Y'know? If you're a complete dumbass.

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;34413039]No, I'm against the assumption that they're imposters and that it was just a raid gone really wrong or something. I didn't have access to those court documents until just now, so I didn't really have anything to go on until you posted them except the article and how they worded it. That court document though helps clarify my stance. Since it specifies now that "They shot a flash bomb through his window." which implies it was a projectile. As if flash bangs are hard enough to acquire this one was fired from a launcher which would be even harder to acquire. I mean, it's possible that it was a flare gun or legal you can easily buy or something but I'm not sure it would break a window and 'bang' or anything. [editline]27th January 2012[/editline] Zipcuffs are different than regular zipties. It may be possible they just put two zipties together and left them open wide enough to put someones wrists in but I've tried doing that before with ties I bought at the store and they're never big enough. Usually when Police raid a home they ziptie everyone they find, regardless if they're an 80 year old grandmother or what. They zip them up and keep moving on through the house. And the only reason I know about it is because I'm really into Police and Military stuff. I collect gear, play Airsoft and all that. Read military magazines and articles and so on. To the average person they don't really know about zipties being used for detainment anymore because it's not a piece of knowledge that they care about or come to learn in very often. [editline]27th January 2012[/editline] Usually I take the side of the Police because I think that whole "Fuck the police" culture is retarded but in this circumstance, without some really compelling evidence they're not real police officers I'm going to assume they were because getting twenty people to commit a crime like this without any serious reward, equipping them with uniforms and whatever equipment seems like a lot of effort and a lot of trouble for something of relatively little value in the end. It doesn't state they took anything. All they did was beat the guy up. If I got twenty guys, dressed them up as cops and planned to do a fake no-knock warrant I'd pick a guy I knew had some money and take stuff from him. Jewelery, laptops, money etc. but I'm pretty sure this guy would have noticed something like that missing. [editline]27th January 2012[/editline] What the hell are we even arguing over? In the PDF they have defendants from the Police Department with badge numbers and everything. [url]http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/01/25/DallasCops.pdf[/url][/QUOTE] I'm not sure, I guess some people think they fabricated the badge numbers, too.

[img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQb17a9Yg1kcramryQWXU32he73GLUl5YbvIONFaFYVpV7_uBYopAmiEHfj[/img] OH SWEET JESUS NOOOOOOO

[QUOTE=Motherfuckers;34415500][img]http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQb17a9Yg1kcramryQWXU32he73GLUl5YbvIONFaFYVpV7_uBYopAmiEHfj[/img] OH SWEET JESUS NOOOOOOO[/QUOTE] Photoshop that into a tree and you have a better analogy.

[QUOTE=archangel125;34408069]Now this is a wild shot - But what if his assailants weren't really cops?[/QUOTE] "Cantu was arrested but never charged with a crime", that implies he was taken to a police station...

[QUOTE=Flyboi;34415648]"Cantu was arrested but never charged with a crime", that implies he was taken to a police station...[/QUOTE] Where in the court documents does it say he was taken to a police station? Every time they mention false arrest in the documents it's referring to how the "officers" tied him up.

ITT: Police apologists cannot accept the fact that there are terrible cops out there and attempt to dismiss this case as nothing more than a bunch of criminals posing as cops.

[QUOTE=Bones85;34416340]ITT: Police apologists cannot accept the fact that there are terrible cops out there and attempt to dismiss this case as nothing more than a bunch of criminals posing as cops.[/QUOTE] I'm usually on the side of the cops but in this case it looks like they just fucked up big time and they're trying to save their asses. I honestly believe most cops are responsible people but occasionally something like this happens. So far nothing in this case has struck me as 'odd' that leads me to the conclusion that someone is impersonating officers.

Probably some kind of child molester or copyright violator.

There's a difference between being detained and arrested. Being arrested means you're going to jail, being detained means being put and cuffs and ordered to stay where you are, and being questioned.

[QUOTE=Isuzu;34413270]Welcome to America. The supposedly best and free-est nation in the world. Y'know? If you're a complete dumbass.[/QUOTE] because this happens literally every day to literally every american citizen [img]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-downsbravo.gif[/img]