Zero Punctuation: "Top 5 of 2012" - General

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'Spunkgargleweewee' is Yathzee's biggest contribution this year. Watching ZP is a great way to expand your gamer vocabulary.

I can't tell if I like him or I hate him.

He didn't say ANYTHING about the worst worst game i wanted to at least know WHY, he hated it so.

[QUOTE=Abrown516;39067880]I can't tell if I like him or I hate him.[/QUOTE] I like him. and as for the lists I'm very surprised that [sp]Amy[/sp] got first on his [sp]worst[/sp] list.

[QUOTE=_Maverick_;39067946]He didn't say ANYTHING about the worst worst game i wanted to at least know WHY, he hated it so.[/QUOTE] Then watch the original review of it.

in general Yahtzee is the only reviwer I respect anymore I love these videos

[sp]Amy[/sp] may have been the most piss poor game I have ever touched.

[QUOTE=_Maverick_;39067946]He didn't say ANYTHING about the worst worst game i wanted to at least know WHY, he hated it so.[/QUOTE] Generally multiplayer focus = steaming pile of shit in Yahtzee world. He is indeed a clever man.

also I fucking knew his Top game of 2012 I fucking love that game it deserves more fucking awards

Good top list, never even heard of half the worst ones

Jesus Christ [sp]Spec Ops was not that fantastic.[/sp] Here's even a video why. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8mvAqlrEfk[/url]

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;39068025]Good top list, never even heard of half the worst ones[/QUOTE] good lets leave it at that.

I'm glad [sp]Far Cry 3[/sp] got on his good list; it really was a fantastic game that had a fairly interesting plot and amazing characters/voice acting. It definitely was better than I had originally anticipated.

[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;39068087]Jesus Christ [sp]Spec Ops was not that fantastic.[/sp] Here's even a video why. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8mvAqlrEfk[/url][/QUOTE] It was fantastic to me. If I had to pick a GoTY besides Max Payne 3, it would be Spec Ops: The Line. One of the main reasons is how it completely fucked over my mind. I bought it full price, thinking I would be getting into a CoD like TPS campaign. I was painfully getting through the first hour... until the second one came into play. My fucking mind was blown and I didn't see it coming for a long shot. Seeing those brutal moments for the first time were one of my favorites moments in gaming in 2012. Not only that, but the soundtrack was righteous. It got me to know 3 bands I commonly listen to now.

I mostly agree with that.

haha, I forgot that [sp] Amy [/sp] existed, gonna have to rewatch his review of that game now

Yeah, I don't really agree with the number 1 game. I mean it does have a pretty good story, but it's still a clunky cover based shooter. I mean hell, it feels almost exactly like Gears of War to play.

I hope [sp]Yager[/sp] makes another excellent work in the future. [sp]Spec Ops The Line[/sp] pretty much caught everyone by surprise this year. No-name developer, "generic" military shooter premise, barely any advertisement and suddenly BAM it's one of the smartest and interesting piece of writing in a video game to come out in recent times.

[QUOTE=Sardonus;39067976]in general Yahtzee is the only reviwer I respect anymore I love these videos[/QUOTE] He's not a reviewer, he's a critic.

I was half-asleep when Resident Evil 6 followed up after Dishonored. I believed for a entire 30 seconds that Yahtzee lost his mind.

[QUOTE=Sardonus;39068021]also I fucking knew his Top game of 2012 I fucking love that game it deserves more fucking awards[/QUOTE] I played it, it wasn't [I]that[/I] fascinating.

I was so happy Spec Ops got game of the year. I wish Dishonored was #3 though.

[QUOTE=NachoPiggy;39068756]I hope [sp]Yager[/sp] makes another excellent work in the future. [sp]Spec Ops The Line[/sp] pretty much caught everyone by surprise this year. No-name developer, "generic" military shooter premise, barely any advertisement and suddenly BAM it's one of the smartest and interesting piece of writing in a video game to come out in recent times.[/QUOTE] These are the times I'm really friggin glad the internet exists, I never would've even heard from this title if all I got was coverage by flashy ads and Mountain Dew.

[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;39068087]Jesus Christ [sp]Spec Ops was not that fantastic.[/sp] Here's even a video why. [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8mvAqlrEfk[/URL][/QUOTE] Whoever did that review missed the point of what the game was really after. It's not about condemning war or violence [I]per se[/I](even though that's obviously a side-effect of the game's story), the game's a review about current military shooters and how they portray war, and especially that war is heroic. The protagonist in Spec Ops could, for all we know have grown up on CoD-like shooters and managed to become this kind of elite soldier, and he saw this opportunity to become a great hero, and put aside everything to become that, no matter the consequences. The very bland gameplay and the extremely non-sensical title of the game is intentional; for what exact reason, I can't say. Maybe it was so that the devs would easily hook a publisher since they were making a "dudebro" shooter. Maybe it was because they wanted to make a game that was exactly like any modern shooter, except show why modern shooters take themselves waaaay too seriously. In any case, this reviewer is missing all the goddamn points of this game and it annoys the heck out of me. His logic is flawed, he comes undone.

[QUOTE=Hunterdnrc;39068087]Jesus Christ [sp]Spec Ops was not that fantastic.[/sp] Here's even a video why. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8mvAqlrEfk[/url][/QUOTE] I guess if you've never seen Apocalypse Now it's good? I dunno, I like my games to actually have good [I]gameplay[/I] along with story.

[sp]Spec Ops[/sp] is one of those games where you really just completely forget about the gameplay imho (or rather the bigger gameplay core itself is the narrative) with the shooty shooty gunplay parts being just an intended roughly broken cart in the plot's hellish roller coaster ride. It's one of those games where you really shouldn't judge it by its surface and first few minutes. Quarterway through the game I started to just have plain fun with the gunplay since while it's just another cover shooter, it's a solid one at least and doesn't feel broken, clunky or underwhelming. Then I pretty much forgot about the "just another cover shooter" feel overall halfway through and just got stressed out more like [sp]Walker[/sp] on just hoping to get the hell out of there, which actually made the last minutes of the game more intense when you start slipping off the sanity slopes. It's more or less a design that really works for the game, just that it may or may not be enjoyable to some.

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;39069333]Whoever did that review missed the point of what the game was really after. It's not about condemning war or violence [I]per se[/I](even though that's obviously a side-effect of the game's story), the game's a review about current military shooters and how they portray war, and especially that war is heroic. The protagonist in Spec Ops could, for all we know have grown up on CoD-like shooters and managed to become this kind of elite soldier, and he saw this opportunity to become a great hero, and put aside everything to become that, no matter the consequences. The very bland gameplay and the extremely non-sensical title of the game is intentional; for what exact reason, I can't say. Maybe it was so that the devs would easily hook a publisher since they were making a "dudebro" shooter. Maybe it was because they wanted to make a game that was exactly like any modern shooter, except show why modern shooters take themselves waaaay too seriously. In any case, this reviewer is missing all the goddamn points of this game and it annoys the heck out of me. His logic is flawed, he comes undone.[/QUOTE] And I had to stop watching after 12 minutes in after he said that "most war crimes are commited by misguided anxious soldiers without any orders, who makes up their own missions, and ends up harming people despite good intentions. It's happened a lot in Vietnam and Afghanistan, they felt like they should be fighting, but they couldn't, so they made up their own fights and enemies, and the fights they tried to do ended up doing more harm than good. Why didn't the developer explore a more realistic consequence of war like this?" Screw me if I'm wrong but the entire fucking game past the intro is about how Walker's team wants to explore what actually happened and Walker himself wanted to become a hero by stopping Konrad and ending the conflict, not realising how bad he fucked up along the way. Walker's a misguided, anxious soldier, who ignores his orders so that he can confront the "new enemy" (don't forget that he saw Konrad as a hero, and is obv disappointed that he deserted like that), become a hero in the process, but ends up being responsible for the deaths of hundreds of U.S soldiers and civilians. He goes the [I]ENTIRE GODDAMN GAME[/I] blaming Konrad for everything that happened, and glorifying himself in the process. Of course you won't find the ocean deep when your only diving equipment is a pair of swimming glasses and a snorkel.

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;39069612]And I had to stop watching after 12 minutes in after he said that "most war crimes are commited by misguided anxious soldiers without any orders, who makes up their own missions, and ends up harming people despite good intentions. It's happened a lot in Vietnam and Afghanistan, they felt like they should be fighting, but they couldn't, so they made up their own fights and enemies, and the fights they tried to do ended up doing more harm than good. Why didn't the developer explore a more realistic consequence of war like this?" Screw me if I'm wrong but the entire fucking game past the intro is about how Walker's team wants to explore what actually happened and Walker himself wanted to become a hero by stopping Konrad and ending the conflict, not realising how bad he fucked up along the way. Walker's a misguided, anxious soldier, who ignores his orders so that he can confront the "new enemy" (don't forget that he saw Konrad as a hero, and is obv disappointed that he deserted like that), become a hero in the process, but ends up being responsible for the deaths of hundreds of U.S soldiers and civilians. He goes the [I]ENTIRE GODDAMN GAME[/I] blaming Konrad for everything that happened, and glorifying himself in the process. Of course you won't find the ocean deep when your only diving equipment is a pair of swimming glasses and a snorkel.[/QUOTE] Thank you from the bottom of my heart, for stating what I was too pissed off to state more eloquently than I ever could. Most of the guys complaints just don't even make [I]sense.[/I] How do you give a player "time to think"? How do you present violence in a "more nuanced" way? And motherfucker, [B]that is how badly white phosporous burns you.[/B] It can reduce a person to a fucking charred mass of bone and tanned flesh parts. If you don't believe me, fucking google it. That is if pictures of actual charred bodies aren't too[I] in your face[/I] for your liking. And if you want to know why it was so much worse inside the trench, just do a little research into how a fire in an enclosed area is a lot fucking worse than one in an open area. That's like asking why someone isn't as badly burned by an open flame as they are when placed in a fucking brick oven. The sheer number of bullshit non statements and demonstrably wrong facts wrapped up together like that is just mind blowing. If you want to criticize Spec Ops for its gameplay, fair enough. It isn't anywhere near as well crafted as something like Gears, and if that keeps you from getting engrossed in the story, fair enough. But you can't just pull complaints out of your ass about the story telling when you know nothing about story telling, what's being examined, or what story was even being told to begin with.

[QUOTE=Snausages;39068319]haha, I forgot that [sp] Amy [/sp] existed, gonna have to rewatch his review of that game now[/QUOTE] Here ya go: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehcU90xJrwE[/media]