Kiev snipers secretly hired by Maidan leaders - according to various rumors. - Polidicks

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/suPNYvG.png[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Q8GAU6B.png[/IMG] hoooooly fuck if this is true, then shit is fucking crazy [QUOTE]“What was disturbing is that the same snipers ...killed people on both sides. She (Bohomolets) showed me some photos. She said that as a medical doctor she could tell it was the same handwriting, the same type of bullets and it's really disturbing that now the new coalition, they don't want to investigate what exactly happened,” Paets tells Ashton. “There is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind snipers it was not Yanukovych. It was somebody from the new coalition.”[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;ZEgJ0oo3OA8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEgJ0oo3OA8[/video] the russians hacked into the Estonian Foreign Ministries phones and then leaked this conversation [URL]http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/estonian-foreign-minister-in-leaked-phone-call-raises-suspicions-about-ukraines-new-government-and-sniper-killings-338507.html[/URL] [URL]http://rt.com/news/ashton-maidan-snipers-estonia-946/[/URL] [URL]http://rt.com/news/estonia-confirm-leaked-tape-970/[/URL]

What the fuck

Holy shit, that's just too evil

Now you fucked up

Still waiting for other sources to confirm

Wouldn't be surprised if some of the further right-wing elements set this one up.

What the actual shitting fuck why

So all these awkward conspiracy theorists who claimed that maidan was set up were actually right! Exept that from what I remember they said that it was the crowd that consisted of hired mercs, but phew. Details. Set up is set up.

If this is true its shocking [B]but[/B] we have literally no proof of it other than some hearsay from a leaked phone call. Same type of bullet isn't exactly conclusive. Also I thought there were some British investigators in the ground investigating these killings, surely they would have said something had they noticed anything like this. [editline]5th March 2014[/editline] But christ, this is really quite disturbing.

Misleading title for multiple reasons. Should be "Ukrainian coalition government may have secretly hired snipers" as there's no indication this had anything to do with euro-maiden, nor has it been definitively confirmed yet

[QUOTE=Disgruntled;44138401]Wouldn't be surprised if some of the further right-wing elements set this one up.[/QUOTE] IF this is true, it would probrably be set up by someone wanting to escalate the conflict and get a good spot in the new goverment this would indeed be the right-wing elements who tried to hijack the revolution for their own causes [editline]5th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=hypno-toad;44138457]Misleading title for multiple reasons. Should be "Ukrainian coalition government may have secretly hired snipers" as there's no indication this had anything to do with euro-maiden, nor has it been definitively confirmed yet[/QUOTE] um, the coalition government IS the maidan leaders

Here is a great post from 4chan that explains the video for those who don't understand Ukrainian [img]http://i.imgur.com/ruY5tAL.png[/img]

If this is true then it proves that Ukrainian politics are deeply fucked. Is the new government less terrible than the old one? Is it less corrupt or more? Is it even a victory to let a slightly less corrupt government in?

[QUOTE=Sokrates;44138518]Here is a great post from 4chan that explains the video for those who don't understand Ukrainian [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ruY5tAL.png[/IMG][/QUOTE] This is the problem when you mix hearsay, leaked phone calls and foreign languages. You have no idea what you are hearing and have to rely on other people (in this case RT) to explain it and hope they don't leave out any details.

[QUOTE=Turing;44138470]um, the coalition government IS the maidan leaders[/QUOTE] Maybe I'm misreading this, feel free to correct me [quote]Paet also says that civil society leaders of EuroMaidan Revolution distrust the new Ukrainian government because they are tainted by corruption and have “a dirty past.”[/quote]

[QUOTE=Sokrates;44138518]Here is a great post from 4chan that explains the video for those who don't understand Ukrainian [img]http://i.imgur.com/ruY5tAL.png[/img][/QUOTE] that would totally be like RT to spin this for propaganda purposes tbh

Here's this video that I've found a while ago and found impossible to interpret, so didn't post. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl6RUgAMaiA[/media] I don't really understand what they're saying all that great, so maybe Laserbeams or some other Ukrainian-speaking fellow will translate? Apparently, there were some stray sniper rifles (with suppressor, no less) around.

Wasn't there rumors that the snipers were Russians special forces? The motive being, everyone getting shot, country falls apart, Russia has to go in and protect Russians in Crimea from Nazis.

Well, it must of been the fascists in the Maidan, but this is very bad indeed.

The only hard fact in this is that the bullets where the same for both sides but that doesn't say anything about who hired the snipers.

thanks Paet

if this does turn out to be true they'll almost certainly have been hired/recreuited by Right Sector or Svoboda, no one else would be crazy enough to try this sort of thing. but it's probably just RT being the mouthpiece again

[QUOTE=Cone;44138931]if this does turn out to be true they'll almost certainly have been hired/recreuited by Right Sector or Svoboda, no one else would be crazy enough to try this sort of thing. but it's probably just RT being the mouthpiece again[/QUOTE] It was one of the far right ones, I highly doubt the lefts or center rights would do it.

Вот это поворот! How *unexpected* it is, really. Right now i can even see smiling Putin's face "i told ya".

[QUOTE=unidentified;44139227]Вот это поворот! How *unexpected* it is, really. Right now i can even see smiling Putin's face "i told ya".[/QUOTE] Not confirmed. Rumor and hearsay. I'll wait for proper ballistic reports, thanks. Good job Urmas.

More trustworthy news from the Kremlin Why don't we just use RT for everything? Its clearly the most unbiased and trustworthy source around.

I think Russia is playing both sides against the middle here

RussiaToday is going into full shilling mode.

Maybe some secretive agency put snipers there in order to fuel the revolt and then blame the government? I really do wonder how like.. the entire arab spring was started.

[QUOTE=Katla;44139667]Maybe some secretive agency put snipers there in order to fuel the revolt and then blame the government? [B]I really do wonder how like.. the entire arab spring was started.[/B][/QUOTE] Twitter. Also the secretive agency can be russia lol. We don't know atm do we.