The Fate of the Internet -- Decided in a Back Room - Polidicks

[quote]The Wall Street Journal just reported that the Federal Communications Commission is holding "closed-door meetings" with industry to broker a deal on Net Neutrality -- the rule that lets users determine their own Internet experience. Given that the corporations at the table all profit from gaining control over information, the outcome won't be pretty. The meetings include a small group of industry lobbyists representing the likes of AT&T, Verizon, the National Cable & Telecommunications Association, and Google. They reportedly met for two-and-a-half hours on Monday morning and will convene another meeting today. The goal according to insiders is to "reach consensus" on rules of the road for the Internet. This is what a failed democracy looks like: After years of avid public support for Net Neutrality - involving millions of people from across the political spectrum - the federal regulator quietly huddles with industry lobbyists to eliminate basic protections and serve Wall Street's bottom line. ...[/quote][url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-karr/the-fate-of-the-internet_b_620690.html[/url] Welcome to China boys.

It's inevitable that something like this will happen some day.

what a cynical article [editline]a[/editline] we've been close to "the death of the internet" for years now fuck-all is gonna happen

Those motherfuckers. I swear to god if Rogers starts doing this I'll kill them all.

What's that you want to kill the internet? Allow to install this killswitch for you and engage the net neutrality attacks on the internet for you.

How would 4 companies from 1 country be able to do anything to the Internet? Isn't the Internet a global cooperative effort?

[QUOTE=Miskav;22805046]How would 4 companies from 1 country be able to do anything to the Internet? Isn't the Internet a global cooperative effort?[/QUOTE] The ISP's can make companies pay for faster connection to consumers (and throttle all others), aswell as make consumer pay for faster connections on a per site basis.

[QUOTE=BAZ;22805147]The ISP's can make companies pay for faster connection to consumers (and throttle all others), aswell as make consumer pay for faster connections on a per site basis.[/QUOTE] Only where the ISPs are allowed to do it, which if this does even happen, will only be in effect in the states.

[QUOTE=Fourm Shark;22804986]But i like my internet. What are they going to do?[/QUOTE] Basically large corporations will be able to control what we can and can not see on the internet and also turn it into a cable T.V. subscription like service. Such as if you want to view this site, pay us more.

[QUOTE=Kalibos;22804933] we've been close to "the death of the internet" for years now fuck-all is gonna happen[/QUOTE] Its hard to believe all this "THE INTERNET IS GOING TO DIE" stuff, due to the design of the internet it is not possible to switch it off or even filter it effectively (As proven in China and many other countries).

[QUOTE=nikomo;22805243]Only where the ISPs are allowed to do it, which if this does even happen, will only be in effect in the states.[/QUOTE] There's no law stopping them doing it now, that's the issue. If people can't connect to their website, and they lose lots of the traffic they lose ad revenue and the website ends.

I'll say this much. The internet as we know it is a fairly flawed infrastructure based off 40 year old technology and ideas, for the most part. So what if they want to clamp down on it? It's an old, haggard patchjob. Let's build a new one.

[QUOTE=Ragy;22805318]Basically large corporations will be able to control what we can and can not see on the internet and also turn it into a cable T.V. subscription like service. Such as if you want to view this site, pay us more.[/QUOTE] Will not be allowed were I live.

[QUOTE=Askaris;22805424]I'll say this much. The internet as we know it is a fairly flawed infrastructure based off 40 year old technology and ideas, for the most part. So what if they want to clamp down on it? It's an old, haggard patchjob. Let's build a new one.[/QUOTE] ... and get tons of extra agencies, bureaucracy, and "safety measures" into place? I just don't see how they'd pass up the opportunity to get their hands into the system.

The administration opposes it at least.

[QUOTE=Ragy;22805318]Basically large corporations will be able to control what we can and can not see on the internet and also turn it into a cable T.V. subscription like service. Such as if you want to view this site, pay us more.[/QUOTE]Please tell me thats only in America

This sucks.

[QUOTE=The mouse;22805488]Please tell me thats only in America[/QUOTE] It is.

Uhh guys, the fcc is campaigning for net neutrality, they want it.

Net neutrality will prevail. The internet is a wild and free beast which no corporation will ever tame.

[img]http://skeptisys.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/5z6vt4n3.jpg[/img] Fear it.

[QUOTE=The mouse;22805488]Please tell me thats only in America[/QUOTE] If it happens in US, there's a good chance it will spread like fire to other countries.

[QUOTE=Ragy;22805606]If it happens in US, there's a good chance it will spread like fire to other countries.[/QUOTE] 1) it won't 2) highly, highly unlikely

[QUOTE=Kalibos;22805666]1) it won't 2) highly, highly unlikely[/QUOTE] The US is basically the city upon the hill. If other companies see that they can get more money from this, they will change.

[QUOTE=Ragy;22805775]The US is basically the city upon the hill. If other companies see that they can get more money from this, they will change.[/QUOTE] Yes, but I don't think laws are that lose in other country's, I don't think company's are allowed to pull such a stunt where I live.

[img]http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc28/Dwervish/netneut.jpg?t=1277240462[/img] Any day now guys. The internet will fall [i]any day now[/i]. Just you wait.

[QUOTE=Ragy;22805606]If it happens in US, there's a good chance it will spread like fire to other countries.[/QUOTE] There's either laws proposed or already in place which would make anything like this illegal in Europe.

[QUOTE=Ragy;22805606][QUOTE=The mouse;22805488]Please tell me thats only in America[/QUOTE] If it happens in US, there's a good chance it will spread like fire to other countries.[/QUOTE] Doubt it, most other countries oppose what the US does in almost any circumstances, this would be something they would most definitely oppose. This is essentially soccer-moms taking over the Internet telling you that you "can't use Google as it is dangerous". Most other countries in the world have the sense to see that the Internet is a necessity for effective communication both commercially and privately and wouldn't allow it to pass.

Jesus. If this happens in Canada, I would go apeshit. Protests up the asshole.

What would stop people getting it all for free? People can use a black box to get paid tv channels, why not internet?