Putin ends abduction of Russian orphans by Americans - Polidicks

[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20795523[/URL] [quote][B]Magnitsky row: Putin backs Russian ban on US adoptions[/B] [B] Russian President Vladimir Putin has defended a ban on Americans adopting Russian children, which has been proposed by the Russian parliament. [/B]He said the bill, a response to the US Magnitsky Act which bars entry to Russian alleged human rights violators, was "appropriate". Russian officials, he said, were not allowed to sit in on US cases involving the mistreatment of Russian children. In a marathon news conference, Mr Putin also restated his views on Syria. He also spoke about relations with fellow ex-Soviet states Ukraine and Georgia and sought to dispel speculation about his health. [B]'Anti-Russian law' [/B]A number of cases where Russian children have died or been mistreated at the hands of US adoptive parents have made headlines in Russia. Mr Putin said he still needed to read the Russian bill in detail, though he backed it in principle. The rate of adoption in Russia is low. Some 3,400 Russian children were adopted by foreign families in 2011, nearly a third of them by Americans. The number of children adopted by Russian citizens was 7,416. Americans have adopted around 60,000 Russian children over the past 20 years, with 19 recorded deaths among them. Over the same period, 1,500 orphans died in Russian adoptive families, according to the Russian prosecutor-general's office. "The State Duma's response may be emotional, but I consider it to be appropriate," Mr Putin said, referring to Russia's lower house. He called the US Magnitsky Act "unfriendly". The act replaced the US Jackson-Vanik amendment, which dated back to the Cold War. "They have replaced one anti-Soviet, anti-Russian law with another... That is very bad. This, of course, in itself poisons our relations," Mr Putin said. He said the US had its own human rights abuses to address, pointing to mistreatment of prisoners at Guantanamo in Cuba and Abu Ghraib in Iraq. [B]Caution on Syria [/B]Moscow, Mr Putin said, had "practically no interests" in Syria but did not want to see "mistakes" made in Libya repeated. Libya, he said, was "falling apart" as a result. In 2011 Libyan rebels supported by Western air strikes ousted Col Muammar Gaddafi. The campaign was backed by a UN resolution, but Russia, a longstanding ally of Syria's President Bashar al-Assad, has blocked a similar resolution on Syria. Mr Putin said Syrians themselves needed to agree how to live in the future, and a military intervention would be "inappropriate". Asked about relations with Georgia, Mr Putin said he had seen "positive signals, very restrained so far" from the new coalition government led by Bidzina Ivanishvili, which defeated allies of President Mikheil Saakashvili at elections. Russia, however, would not revoke its recognition of South Ossetia and Abkhazia as independent states, Mr Putin said. Asked to explain a last-minute decision by Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych to cancel a trip to Moscow on Tuesday, Mr Putin said there were some economic problems to be resolved such as disagreement over import quotas. But he denied that at issue was Ukraine's reluctance to join a Moscow-led Customs Union linking Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan. Mr Putin insisted that Russia's long-term gas contract with Ukraine was not in dispute now but he said Ukraine had made a "strategic mistake" by refusing to lease its gas pipeline network to Gazprom and other European operators. He pointed out that Russia was now developing gas export infrastructure outside Ukraine: the Nord Stream pipeline in the Baltic, Blue Stream in the Black Sea and the recent launch of the South Stream undersea pipeline project, which will deliver Russian gas directly to the Balkans. [B]'Dream on '[/B]Mr Putin, 60, dismissed media reports about the state of his health. "I can give a traditional answer to the question about my health: dream on," he said. Last month there were reports that Mr Putin, a keen sportsman, was suffering from a bad back. He dismissed suggestions he was "authoritarian". "Had I considered a totalitarian or authoritarian system preferable, I would simply have changed the constitution, it was easy enough to do," he said.[/quote] Considering how low the rates of adoption are in Russia, the only thing that'll come out of this is the increased suffering of orphans.

Damn, how do we stop the drop of population? Ban adoption by Americans of course!

I thought the big craze was adopting Chinese babies.. not Russian

[quote]The number of children adopted by Russian citizens was 7,416. Americans have adopted around 60,000 Russian children over the past 20 years, with 19 recorded deaths among them.[B] Over the same period, 1,500 orphans died in Russian adoptive families, according to the Russian prosecutor-general's office.[/B][/quote] Jesus fuck. Why am I not surprised?

This legislation is part of the Kremlin's retaliation for the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnitsky_bill"]Magnitsky Act[/URL], which is mentioned in the article.

This is a amendment to a bill to ban Americans accused of human rights violations in reaction to the US attaching a the ban of Russians accused of human rights violations to a trade normalization bill (It was supposed to be a thing that would bring the two together, yet instead pushed them apart because of random senators.).

[QUOTE=areolop;38908945]I thought the big craze was adopting Chinese babies.. not Russian[/QUOTE] In my lifetime I've met three people where were Adopted from Russia. One of them was a very beautiful teen stricken with polio, so she had a limp with her. Regardless though I remember her being very nice.

I work at wal-mart and this weird motherfucker in electronics that literally has warlock haircut from WoW has a mail order bride from Russia and she doesn't understand anyone really and I just feel bad for her.

[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;38909669]warlock haircut[/QUOTE] A what? Haircuts are tied to race, not class, last time I played the game, though it has been a while.

[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;38909669]I work at wal-mart and this weird motherfucker in electronics that literally has warlock haircut from WoW has a mail order bride from Russia and she doesn't understand anyone really and I just feel bad for her.[/QUOTE] dont worry i hit up vladimir, get you even hotter bride ok?

Dagonnit that was my back-up for if I'm unable to get children when I grow up, well fuck.

If you want to increase population then improve standards of living.

Putin is honestly a piece of shit, the corruption in Russia is so thinly veiled it's painful and anyone who dare speak against it ends up "mysteriously" shot or poisoned.

[QUOTE=Aman VII;38917911]Putin is honestly a piece of shit, the corruption in Russia is so thinly veiled it's painful and anyone who dare speak against it ends up "mysteriously" shot or poisoned.[/QUOTE] He's corrupt, but I don't remember hearing about anyone getting assassinated.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Magnitsky[/url] and a whole bunch less press attention getting ones on this list [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia[/url] And to think these are the ones that we see, just imagine all the other bullshit that goes on behind more tightly sealed doors

I like Putin's diplomatic choices. But, I realize that what he does to stay in power is distasteful, especially when he does that exploitative leapfrog thing with Medvedev. I mean, that's like admin abuse for fuck's sake.

[QUOTE=Aman VII;38917973][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko[/url] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Magnitsky[/url] and a whole bunch less press attention getting ones on this list [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia[/url] And to think these are the ones that we see, just imagine all the other bullshit that goes on behind more tightly sealed doors[/QUOTE] Ah, thanks

[QUOTE=ATribeCalledQ;38909669]I work at wal-mart and this weird motherfucker in electronics that literally has warlock haircut from WoW has a mail order bride from Russia and she doesn't understand anyone really and I just feel bad for her.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure that is extremely illegal.

[QUOTE=PaChIrA;38917935]He's corrupt, but I don't remember hearing about anyone getting assassinated.[/QUOTE] The KGB, they're more secretive than ever.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;38918741]I'm pretty sure that is extremely illegal.[/QUOTE] not illegal just kinda awkward and morally debatable.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;38918741]I'm pretty sure that is extremely illegal.[/QUOTE] don't think it's illegal at all. as long as the women are at the age of majority and are choosing freely to come to the states then it's hard to really declare it illegal.

[QUOTE=Aman VII;38919002]not illegal just kinda awkward and morally debatable.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=yawmwen;38919133]don't think it's illegal at all. as long as the women are at the age of majority and are choosing freely to come to the states then it's hard to really declare it illegal.[/QUOTE] I was thinking "mail order bride" as in the kind the mafiya delivers. When you put it that way, I guess it's okay. Still weird though.

[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;38919148]I was thinking "mail order bride" as in the kind the mafiya delivers. When you put it that way, I guess it's okay. Still weird though.[/QUOTE] go google mail order brides sometime. i think it's mostly like college age women wanting an opportunity to learn and have a new life away from their home country. it's definitely weird, but at the same time if the women are happy who am i to complain about it?