• Fox News "Expert" explains the difference between hunting rifles and assault rifles.
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYhA-cUjqDE[/media] - There are "adapters" that easily turn my hunting rifle into a assualt rifle. - Double shots > Single shot guns. - Apparently my grocery stores have these guns. - Big flash in front of the gun at night = moar dangerous gun. - "Scoopes" are the key difference in making my water gun into a hunting rifle. - 3 blonde women with manicures and nice dresses are the best experts on weapons and their functions.
Geeze, you'd think republicans would know their guns better.
[QUOTE=Tudd;50706718]- 3 blonde women with manicures and nice dresses are the best experts on weapons and their functions.[/QUOTE] sorry not seeing your point
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;50706767]sorry not seeing your point[/QUOTE] Must we always be politically correct on here?
[QUOTE=Tudd;50706807]Must we always be politically correct on here?[/QUOTE] Yes otherwise we'll have to report you to the PCA authorities.
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50706817]Yes otherwise we'll have to report you to the PCA authorities.[/QUOTE] Aww shit. I explicitly state from now on that blonde women are capable of knowing about firearms just aswell as anyone else, and further retract my attempt to make a joke on the crude ditzy blonde stereotype. Hopefully the PCA doesn't put me through a Tribunal, or else I sincerely think I would be prosecuted.
Thank you, that wasn't so hard now was it?
[QUOTE=MrJazzy;50706835]Thank you, that wasn't so hard now was it?[/QUOTE] I feel like I can give a 1000 hugs right now.
[QUOTE=Tudd;50706807]Must we always be politically correct on here?[/QUOTE] No, just correct. It's incorrect to suggest that women can't have any expertise, or that expert rifle shooters wouldn't ever wear dresses or get manicures. While I'm not willing to paint gun advocates with a wide brush, especially since I agree with a lot of things, there's some gun advocates that complain about being misrepresented by unknowing people while also misrepresenting people and contributing to stereotypes. In your case, you're being sexist and hurting your case. [editline]13th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Tudd;50706831]Aww shit. I explicitly state from now on that blonde women are capable of knowing about firearms just aswell as anyone else, and further retract my attempt to make a joke on the crude ditzy blonde stereotype. Hopefully the PCA doesn't put me through a Tribunal, or else I sincerely think I would be prosecuted.[/QUOTE] I'm cool with jokes, it's just that yours was really unfunny low-hanging fruit that was simultaneously too hard to distinguish from a real statement.
[QUOTE=Tudd;50706807]Must we always be politically correct on here?[/QUOTE] You gotta be pc or else you will be clipped by a double-shot machine weapon.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50706843]No, just correct. It's incorrect to suggest that women can't have any expertise, or that expert rifle shooters wouldn't ever wear dresses or get manicures. While I'm not willing to paint gun advocates with a wide brush, especially since I agree with a lot of things, there's some gun advocates that complain about being misrepresented by unknowing people while also misrepresenting people and contributing to stereotypes. In your case, you're being sexist and hurting your case. [editline]13th July 2016[/editline] I'm cool with jokes, it's just that yours was really unfunny low-hanging fruit that was simultaneously too hard to distinguish from a real statement.[/QUOTE] Oh come on, do you actually think a person on here would even last 6+ years if they actually were that sexist? I get it is hard to tell jokes on here so I see your point though. I just personally don't care to be so uptight cause I know at the end of the day I wouldn't ever actually say a woman couldn't learn about firearms and advocate to prevent that. [editline]14th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50706860]You gotta be pc or else you will be clipped by a double-shot machine weapon.[/QUOTE] Just please for the love of god don't put a scope on it and make it an assault machine gun.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50706860]You gotta be pc or else you will be [B]magazined[/B] by a double-shot machine weapon.[/QUOTE] fixed
still it wasn't very funny let's move on with life
[QUOTE=Tudd;50706807]Must we always be politically correct on here?[/QUOTE] Sorry, but I still don't see your point. Could you explain it more clearly
[QUOTE=Zukriuchen;50706892]Sorry, but I still don't see your point. Could you explain it more clearly[/QUOTE] Come on man, don't need to go and act completely ignorant. I'm moving on like the rest of everyone else.
[QUOTE=Tudd;50706916]Come on man, don't need to go and act completely ignorant.[/QUOTE] Funny, I was about to say the same thing
[QUOTE=Tudd;50706883]Oh come on, do you actually think a person on here would even last 6+ years if they actually were that sexist? I get it is hard to tell jokes on here so I see your point though. I just personally don't care to be so uptight cause I know at the end of the day I wouldn't ever actually say a woman couldn't learn about firearms.[/QUOTE] Well, I live around people that would legitimately say stuff like that, and I don't think statements like that are really all that foreign. It's like remarking about how "women don't know anything about cars", or "women don't know anything about construction", or "women don't know anything about programming". That, and there's people that "joke" while having really terrible beliefs (think ultra-conservative family members posting political comics), so it gets hard to draw the distinctions sometimes. Also, it's important to note that I originally said what you said sexist, and not you - I don't think you're sexist.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50706947]Well, I live around people that would legitimately say stuff like that, and I don't think statements like that are really all that foreign. It's like remarking about how "women don't know anything about cars", or "women don't know anything about construction", or "women don't know anything about programming". That, and there's people that "joke" while having really terrible beliefs (think ultra-conservative family members posting political comics), so it gets hard to draw the distinctions sometimes. Also, it's important to note that I originally said what you said sexist, and not you - I don't think you're sexist.[/QUOTE] Probably should mention I kind of copy and pasted that from my FB, hence why the audience of that joke might have been different. Also I didn't think, so no harm no foul. Text-based talking is always a problem with contextual meaning.
:snip: unnecessary, retraction made
Oh, forgot to mention - the bigger point I was trying to make is that I think that gun advocates are actively being hurt with the media not doing their research and being honest when it comes to talking about guns. On top of misrepresenting gun advocates as being "gun nuts", misinformation, and unfairness, there are some actual gun advocates are going around and calling the other side a bunch of liberal pussies or socialists or whatever buzzwords people like to use. I view that as giving fuel to the opposing side - you don't want to be seen as toxic in trying to convince other people that owning guns can be safe and rational. Going around saying, "Ha, women don't know anything about guns" ends up being a disservice to the cause and, as I've said before, be completely indistinguishable from the people who legitimately believe stuff like that. I'm just saying this at this point as advice and not as a means to attack - I legitimately want both sides of the argument to be fair and not be tempted to resort to stereotyping the other side as close-minded.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50706970]Going around saying, "Ha, women don't know anything about guns" ends up being a disservice to the cause and, as I've said before, be completely indistinguishable from the people who legitimately believe stuff like that.[/QUOTE] Well the funny part in this case is that the non-liberals Fox news dropped the ball this time on guns. I think at of the end of the day we can all agree that the media as whole largely doesn't know guns well or otherwise presents it badly.
[QUOTE=Tudd;50706995]Well the funny part in this case is that the non-liberals Fox news dropped the ball this time on guns. I think at of the end of the day we can all agree that the media as whole largely doesn't know guns well or otherwise presents it badly.[/QUOTE] Pretty much! I just want reporters to do their job and report. Give me the name of the weapon. Introduce me to its significance. Explain relevant functions. What happens instead is they dance around giving names and end up leaving lots of readers in the dark, explaining that weapons are "assault-style" or generally spooky. It's condescending, manipulative, and not helpful. A lot of this information is available on the internet for free and with great detail. This is another problem with journalism, in which journalists aren't doing their jobs. It's something that is discussed in the book [url=https://www.amazon.com/Trust-Me-Lying-Confessions-Manipulator/dp/1591846285?ie=UTF8&ref_=asap_bc]Trust Me, I'm Lying[/url] by Ryan Holiday and [url=http://biggest.thedickshow.com/episode-18/]his guest appearance on The Biggest Problem in the Universe[/url], where he talks about how he legitimately pretended to be experts on all kinds of topics and lied to journalists doing last-second reporting without QA. That's probably another component that mangles the discussion of weapons in media as well. Lazy journalism sucks.
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