AP: UK to expel Israeli diplomat over Dubai case - Polidicks

[quote=Associated Press via Yahoo! News] By DAVID STRINGER, Associated Press Writer David Stringer, Associated Press Writer – 56 mins ago LONDON – Britain will expel an Israeli diplomat on Tuesday to rebuke Israel for its alleged use of forged British passports in the assassination of a Hamas operative in a suspected Mossad hit, a U.K. government official said. Foreign Secretary David Miliband was scheduled to address Parliament over the issue, following an investigation into the use of 12 fake U.K. passports in the incident. Britain's Foreign Office would not provide any details of Miliband's statement in advance. "The foreign secretary will make a statement to the House of the Commons this afternoon," a spokeswoman said, on customary condition of anonymity in line with government policy. However, a U.K. official, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to comment ahead of the statement, confirmed that one Israeli diplomat will be expelled. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown's office confirmed that Israel's ambassador to Britain, Ron Prosor, met with Peter Ricketts, Britain's senior diplomat, on Monday to discuss the case. Israel's foreign ministry declined to provide details of the talks, but there is no suggestion the ambassador himself would be expelled. In 1988, Britain expelled Israeli attache Arie Regev for "activities incompatible with diplomatic duties," a euphemism for espionage. It also barred a second Israeli, Jacob Barad, from returning to Britain after his departure in 1987. Both men were suspected of coordinating Mossad activity in the U.K. In London, Israel's Embassy said Miliband had been due to attend a reception Tuesday to mark the refurbishment of the embassy building, but would not now be present. The embassy would not comment on whether a diplomat would be expelled. "We can neither confirm nor deny," said an embassy spokesman, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media on the issue. Dubai authorities have accused Israel's Mossad spy agency of being behind the Jan 20. slaying of Mahmoud al-Mabhouh in a luxury hotel room, and have identified at least 26 suspects of an alleged hit squad that traveled to Dubai on fake identities and forged European and Australian passports. Interpol has unveiled a wanted list of 27 people in connection with the slaying. Israel has neither confirmed nor denied any involvement in al-Mabhouh's killing. At least 15 of the names used by the suspected killers match those of Israeli citizens who are dual nationals of Western countries — including eight Israeli-British dual nationals. All have denied involvement, saying their identities were stolen. Shortly after he was named as one of the British suspects, dual national Melvyn Adam Mildiner told The Associated Press that he thought he was picked because "I don't have a Jewish-sounding name." It is suspected Mossad specifically targeted the identities of dual nationals. It is relatively easy for British Jews — and Jews from other nations — to qualify for Israeli passports if they meet the basic requirements set out by the Israeli government. It is common for people to carry valid passports from both nations. In a recent speech, Eliza Manningham-Buller — the ex-head of Britain's MI5 — said forged British passports had previously been used by the same country behind the Dubai slaying, though she declined to specifically name Israel. Arieh Eldad, a lawmaker from Israel's National Union — a hardline opposition party — called Friday for the military attache of the British Embassy in Israel to be expelled in response. "Nobody nominated them as the judges in our war against terror," he told the AP. Diplomatic expulsions are a rare sanction against foreign governments. Britain kicked out four Russian diplomats in 2007 over the country's refusal to extradite to London a suspect in the poisoning death of Alexander Litvinenko. The country's Serious and Organized Crime Agency has conducted an inquiry into the use of forged British passports, but is not involved in wider inquiries by Dubai police into the killing. [IMG]http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100323/i/r798447554.jpg?x=400&y=324&q=85&sig=UcbUQoORyZ_Wgd68UyjfPA--[/IMG][I]Hamas militant, Mahmoud al-Mabhouh (ringed), is shown arriving at his hotel in this CCTV handout from Dubai police February 15, 2010. REUTERS/Dubai Police/Handout[/I] _______ Associated Press writers Raphael G. Satter and Gregory Katz in London and Aron Heller and Ian Deitch in Jerusalem contributed to this report[/quote] tl;dr Israel used several EU passports, one being Britain to carry out an illegal assassination, framing and ruining the integrity of the nations. As a result Britain has decided to expel an Israeli diplomat. ---- First, an Irish city, now the United Kingdom. Definitely progress.

Another thread on Israel. :froggonk:

Not cool Israel, not cool.

Seen this on news this morning, Tut Tut Isreal.

Nice to see someone finally making a move instead of standing around and wringing their hands.

[QUOTE=JDK721v2;20916342]Another thread on Israel. :froggonk:[/QUOTE] Go tell Israel not to be such a dickwad of a country, maybe this would not happen. You can start by turning moving to a country that doesn't use their citizens money to give Israel shelter-demolishing bombs.

What the fuck isreal. Are all Isrealis this way? Im cancelling my Ebay order for a gfx card, FROM ISREAL, TAKE ACTION!

[QUOTE=The Left Wing;20916954]Go tell Israel not to be such a dickwad of a country, maybe this would not happen. You can start by turning moving to a country that doesn't use their citizens money to give Israel shelter-demolishing bombs.[/QUOTE] Yeah, because no one has ever told them that. Telling them something doesn't do shit sparky. How will me, one person, moving help anything? All governments are run by incompetents.

Israel is getting put in its place right now huh. First Clinton tells them to stop dicking around or the US will be pissed and now the UK is giving them a good talking to as well.

Better yet we should just dismantle there country . That would settle alot of problems.

[QUOTE=PEn1s lol;20923621]Better yet we should just dismantle there country . That would settle alot of problems.[/QUOTE] And create a whole lot of new ones. There was some Israeli guy on the BBC today getting interviewed and he was totally crazy. His rationale for demolishing Palestinian settlements was that Jerusalem is referred to more times in the Bible than in the Quran. And every time the interviewer mentioned Israel occupying a territory the guy corrected him with "not occupation. Re-unification." The interviewer was like "reunification of what was Jewish territory 3000 years ago." The guy was like "yes."

How reliable is this news article? All I see are a bunch of accusations and rumours that the politicians aren't commenting on.

Er...I don't really get this. If Israel assassinated a hostile operative, does it really matter that they forged passports? [editline]06:08PM[/editline] [QUOTE=TH89;20923719]The interviewer was like "reunification of what was Jewish territory 3000 years ago." The guy was like "yes."[/QUOTE] The Israeli people are strongly-tied to their history and culture. I for one respect them for not giving up their former culture/history.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;20923891]Er...I don't really get this. If Israel assassinated a hostile operative, does it really matter that they forged passports? [editline]06:08PM[/editline] The Israeli people are strongly-tied to their history and culture. I for one respect them for not giving up their former culture/history.[/QUOTE] Stop blindly defending israel

[QUOTE=Warhol;20923943]Stop blindly defending israel[/QUOTE] Excuse me but all he did was express admiration for Israel's efforts to preserve it's past. He didn't even comment on whether they were guilty or not. Besides, the thread title is misleading. Noone in the British government has said an Israeli diplomat will be expelled.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;20923891]The Israeli people are strongly-tied to their history and culture. I for one respect them for not giving up their former culture/history.[/QUOTE] Do you know who else used the "it's not invasion, we're just re-unifying our historical territory" excuse to justify invading and persecuting people? You get three guesses, and the first two don't count.

[QUOTE=Warhol;20923943]Stop blindly defending israel[/QUOTE] If you actually knew Israel's history and how it's been treated, you'd be defending them too. Israel was dispersed brutally by the Assyrian Empire, and more recently assimilated into the Turkish (Ottoman) Empire then later the British Empire. Jews were frequently the targets of brutality by the Russia in the pre-Lenin era also. Post-WW2, after the Jewish people were targeted for extermination by Hitler, Britain gave Israel independence to provide the Jews with a safe haven. Around the time Israel became a nation, they were almost immediately converged on by several Soviet-backed Middle East nations (which Israel proceeded to beat the shit out of in the war), and now, after suffering for thousands of years at the hands of about every nation in the area, all Israel is asking for is their land back. [editline]06:15PM[/editline] [QUOTE=TH89;20924033]Do you know who else used the "it's not invasion, we're just re-unifying our historical territory" excuse to justify invading and persecuting people? You get three guesses, and the first two don't count.[/QUOTE] So....you're comparing Israel to Nazi Germany? What.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;20924047]If you actually knew Israel's history and how it's been treated, you'd be defending them too. [/QUOTE] Sorry, but however Israel was treated in the past it doesn't justify the wholesale slaughter of innocent palestinians. [editline]10:17PM[/editline] [QUOTE=TH89;20924033]Do you know who else used the "it's not invasion, we're just re-unifying our historical territory" excuse to justify invading and persecuting people? You get three guesses, and the first two don't count.[/QUOTE] That's a poor choice of words honestly, you can't really call it an invasion. Considering the arabs welcomed the European Jews initially. And don't forget it was the English who sent them there. I'd just like to reiterate, there is NO justifcation possible that makes killing civilians acceptable.

Bad move.

[QUOTE=Hypocrite;20924075]Sorry, but however Israel was treated in the past it doesn't justify the wholesale slaughter of innocent palestinians. [editline]10:17PM[/editline] That's a poor choice of words honestly, you can't really call it an invasion. Considering the arabs welcomed the European Jews initially. And don't forget it was the English who sent them there. I'd just like to reiterate, there is NO justifcation possible that makes killing civilians acceptable.[/QUOTE] For some reason, not necessarily your post alone, I'm thinking that if the Arab nations were to counter-attack Israel again, everyone on FP would be like "FUCK YEAH DOWN WITH ISRAEL", but if Israel then began to counter-attack them FP would be like "WTF AMERICA STOP ISRAEL NOW". Confusing logic.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;20924143]For some reason, not necessarily your post alone, I'm thinking that if the Arab nations were to counter-attack Israel again, everyone on FP would be like "FUCK YEAH DOWN WITH ISRAEL", but if Israel then began to counter-attack them FP would be like "WTF AMERICA STOP ISRAEL NOW". Confusing logic.[/QUOTE] Israel's had plenty of chances to pursue the peace process, I don't think either the US or the UK should protect Israel anymore. If we even still do.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;20924047]So....you're comparing Israel to Nazi Germany? What.[/QUOTE] Yep. Can you set aside your kneejerk reaction and tell me why not?

[QUOTE=Hypocrite;20924201]Israel's had plenty of chances to pursue the peace process, I don't think either the US or the UK should protect Israel anymore. If we even still do.[/QUOTE] No one's gone to the Middle East countries demanding them to be peaceful. You know, Israel may be acting aggressive in the Middle East, but the starting aggression in 1947 wasn't their fault, but the other countries', and even know Israel's not the only one of the countries in the area to blame for the conflict.

The US should stop giving Israel aid. We have enough problems at home. Put Americans first. Not asshole Israelis.

[QUOTE=TH89;20924215]Yep. Can you set aside your kneejerk reaction and tell me why not?[/QUOTE] Israel isn't ruled by a fascist dictatator, Israel isn't exterminating races (yes, they are treating the Arabs somewhat poorly, but they're not "cleansing the races"), Israel is religious for the most part, not atheistic (Nazi Germany was strongly atheist and persecuted most religious groups), Israel isn't going on the warpath to form a global empire.

[QUOTE=TH89;20924215]Yep. Can you set aside your kneejerk reaction and tell me why not?[/QUOTE] I agree here.

[QUOTE=JDK721v2;20924243]The US should stop giving Israel aid. We have enough problems at home. Put Americans first. Not asshole Israelis.[/QUOTE] I must ask, why are the Israelis "assholes" for forging passes to assassinate a hostile spy? Who gives a shit that they forged passes?

[QUOTE=TH89;20924215]Yep. Can you set aside your kneejerk reaction and tell me why not?[/QUOTE] They reminded me of North Korea with their 'reunification' bollocks. I'm surprised the media on Israel recently in these years, Israel has done tons of dickish shit over the years, was always ignored.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;20924309]I must ask, why are the Israelis "assholes" for forging passes to assassinate a hostile spy? Who gives a shit that they forged passes?[/QUOTE] They've done a lot more than just this. They're breaking the law and committing war crimes regularly to fight "terrorists." No one should be above the law.

[QUOTE=Gmod_Fan77;20924274]Israel isn't ruled by a fascist dictatator, Israel isn't exterminating races (yes, they are treating the Arabs somewhat poorly, but they're not "cleansing the races"), Israel is religious for the most part, not atheistic (Nazi Germany was strongly atheist and persecuted most religious groups), Israel isn't going on the warpath to form a global empire.[/QUOTE] You know what a comparison is, right? It doesn't mean someone is claiming two things are similar in every way. Sometimes, it can be only one way! [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3677532/4r2p0y.jpg[/img]