Georgia courthouse shooter had bombs, assault rifle, sheriff says - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Atlanta (CNN) -- A man armed with explosives and an assault rifle might have entered a north Georgia courthouse Friday if not for a deputy who was wounded in the shootout with the gunman, Forsyth County Sheriff Duane Piper said. Authorities killed Dennis Marx outside the courthouse, Piper said during a news conference, adding that the gunman planned to wreak more havoc once inside the building. "Mr. Marx's intention was to get in that front door and take hostages," he said. The suspect began a "frontal assault" on the building by driving up, throwing out "homemade spike strips" to delay any police response, and trying to run over a deputy, Piper said. Marx then began firing through his windshield, hitting the deputy in the leg, the sheriff said. He also threw gas grenades -- perhaps pepper grenades -- during the attack and had flex ties and water in his possession, according to the sheriff.[/QUOTE] Read more at [URL="http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/06/justice/georgia-courthouse-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1"]CNN[/URL]

[quote]"Mr. Marx's intention was to get in that front door and take hostages," he said.[/quote] MARX SHALL END CAPITALISM BY TAKING THESE HOSTAGES IN THE NAME OF COMMUNISM!

[QUOTE=JoeSkylynx;45018606]MARX SHALL END CAPITALISM BY TAKING THESE HOSTAGES IN THE NAME OF COMMUNISM![/QUOTE] Which Marx? Karl or Groucho?

[quote]Dennis Marx wore body armor and a [B][U]gas mask.[/U][/B] He brandished an assault rifle, an assortment of grenades[/quote] FP'er?

heard about this pretty immediately after it happened. i'm fucking pissed they're still releasing the names of people who do these things

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6leakkrbX4[/media]

news sites should be held accountable for focusing on the criminal so much in these reports it just gives them attention and other nutjobs hop on the bandwagon

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45018628]Which Marx? Karl or Groucho?[/QUOTE] Maybe Bernard from A Brave New World? It's my favourite book. Also what's it with facepunch and gasmasks? OT: I hate shooters, and I think if America banned guns this wouldn't have happened.

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;45026783]Maybe Bernard from A Brave New World? It's my favourite book. Also what's it with facepunch and gasmasks? OT: I hate shooters, and I think if America banned guns this wouldn't have happened.[/QUOTE] Will you kindly explain to us why you had to start with the whole banning guns thing? For one thing, it's not technically viable, and will only increase the number of people keeping illegal guns about. Don't forget that most guns used in violent crimes are illegally procured. And you can get guns quite easily too, if you aren't declared to be mentally incompetent.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45026816]Will you kindly explain to us why you had to start with the whole banning guns thing? For one thing, it's not technically viable, and will only increase the number of people keeping illegal guns about. Don't forget that most guns used in violent crimes are illegally procured. And you can get guns quite easily too, if you aren't declared to be mentally incompetent.[/QUOTE] My country (Sweden) has banned guns for private owners. So it is technically viable, and it didn't increase the number of people having guns. To top it off; there are no shootings here. Maybe one every 20 years or so... So if we can do it everyone can!

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;45026783]OT: I hate shooters, and I think if America banned guns this wouldn't have happened.[/QUOTE] or address the extensive problems and regressive ideologies that poison this country. like weeding out corruption, fixing healthcare (especially getting better recognition and treatment for mental health), social equality, education, not being an oligarchy, etc etc. as terrible as guns are, they are not possible to ban and that isn't a logical or viable way forward.

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;45026865]or address the extensive problems and regressive ideologies that poison this country. like weeding out corruption, fixing healthcare (especially getting better recognition and treatment for mental health), social equality, education, not being an oligarchy, etc etc. as terrible as guns are, they are not possible to ban and that isn't a logical or viable way forward.[/QUOTE] Typical gun-nut defense. Read my other post and that is all im saying in the matter.

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;45026831]My country (Sweden) has banned guns for private owners. So it is technically viable, and it didn't increase the number of people having guns. To top it off; there are no shootings here. Maybe one every 20 years or so... So if we can do it everyone can![/QUOTE] sweden and the us are not comparable at all when it comes to guns. [editline]7th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=w00tf1zh;45026875]Typical gun-nut defense. Read my other post and that is all im saying in the matter.[/QUOTE] uh but i personally hate weapons, which is [I]why i said they are terrible[/I]. i just recognize that getting rid of them is unrealistic and a terrible idea e: to follow up on this and be more clear i dont really care too much about legal weapon ownership or using them for hunting, it's the efficiency they can kill with that makes me feel uncomfortable with them outside of those contexts (and seeing them in public).

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;45026875]Typical gun-nut defense. Read my other post and that is all im saying in the matter.[/QUOTE] You told a guy who is openly anti-gun that he's a gun nut because he says the issue is more complicated than 'just ban guns and everything will be fixed'. Good job.

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;45026831]My country (Sweden) has banned guns for private owners. So it is technically viable, and it didn't increase the number of people having guns. To top it off; there are no shootings here. Maybe one every 20 years or so... So if we can do it everyone can![/QUOTE] There is over 200 million guns in america, banning them now wont do jack shit. Why the fuck should i pay for the crimes these people commit, i'm a law abiding citizen, those maniacs can go fuck themselves in hell.

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;45026831]My country (Sweden) has banned guns for private owners. So it is technically viable, and it didn't increase the number of people having guns. To top it off; there are no shootings here. Maybe one every 20 years or so... So if we can do it everyone can![/QUOTE] Here in America, there are plenty of crazy people just like the person in the OP with tons of guns, who think that the government is evil and want to overthrow it. Even if these were the only people in the US with guns (which they are most certainly not), do you really think it would be easy to take their guns away? [editline]7th June 2014[/editline] Nordic countries actually have high rates of gun ownership, and Sweden is no exception. It's legal for an individual to own a gun if they have a license (and any type of gun, be it a handgun or a fully automatic machinegun, if they have proper permission). There are an estimated 2.8 million guns held by civilians in Sweden. So get your facts right about your own country before you attack ours.

Trying to Ban all guns would probably cause more problems/death then the way the law works now.

I don't see how gun control would have helped. Someone who can get their hands on gas grenades will not have a problem getting a gun illegally.

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;45026831]My country (Sweden) has banned guns for private owners. So it is technically viable, and it didn't increase the number of people having guns. To top it off; there are no shootings here. Maybe one every 20 years or so... So if we can do it everyone can![/QUOTE] uh private owners can totally have guns in sweden. hell, sweden has the 10th highest amount of gun ownership in the world with 31.6 guns per 100 people. fuck, in sweden you can technically legally own any firearm as long as you have the proper registration and licences, from pistols to hunting shotguns to full-auto assault rifles produced past 1986 [editline]7th June 2014[/editline] so in some ways they have more lax gun control than the US

ban courthouses

why don't americans just admit that they've collectively decided several massacres per year are the price they're willing to pay to own a gun

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;45027411]uh private owners can totally have guns in sweden. hell, sweden has the 10th highest amount of gun ownership in the world with 31.6 guns per 100 people. fuck, in sweden you can technically legally own any firearm as long as you have the proper registration and licences, from pistols to hunting shotguns to full-auto assault rifles produced past 1986 [editline]7th June 2014[/editline] so in some ways they have more lax gun control than the US[/QUOTE] lmao swedish gun control more lax than the US these gun discussions really spin out of control with all the gun apologists [editline]8th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=ilikecorn;45027814]That is, unless you like dead cops and federal agents. I sure as hell don't.[/QUOTE] the fact that you're implying gun owners are going to go on massacres if they get their guns taken away really doesn't help solidify your position here

[QUOTE=DeEz;45029511]lmao swedish gun control more lax than the US these gun discussions really spin out of control with all the gun apologists[/QUOTE] could you at least try to disprove his argument [QUOTE=DeEz;45029511]the fact that you're implying gun owners are going to go on massacres if they get their guns taken away really doesn't help solidify your position here[/QUOTE] americans always talk about how they're going to do x violent thing against y other thing or person they don't like, it's just what they do. in reality, what's more likely is that police in southern states would refuse to enforce the law in the first place. it's too divisive of an issue to expect thorough application, which is why it's typically handled on a state-by-state level.

[QUOTE=DeEz;45029511]lmao swedish gun control more lax than the US these gun discussions really spin out of control with all the gun apologists [/QUOTE] [B]in some ways[/B] in the US, private owners are not legally able to own any fully automatic weapon produced after 1986, which is perfectly legal in sweden *as far as i know*

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;45026783]Maybe Bernard from A Brave New World? It's my favourite book. Also what's it with facepunch and gasmasks? OT: I hate shooters, and I think if America banned guns this wouldn't have happened.[/QUOTE] Gun laws wouldn't have helped anyway, this guy was a "sovereign citizen" that means he thinks he's above the law and will just ignore any laws he disagrees with, and most of the stuff he had isn't too hard to make yourself.

This hits a little too close to home... I work at the City of Douglasville City Hall and this is a realistic fear to have.

Well since we are apparently now on gun laws... Before anyone starts to take a massive shit on the US gun laws, please remember how large the United States is, do you honestly think a universal ban would be able to cover that much ground with so many private owners? [editline]7th June 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=asteroidrules;45030865]Gun laws wouldn't have helped anyway, this guy was a "sovereign citizen" that means he thinks he's above the law and will just ignore any laws he disagrees with, and most of the stuff he had isn't too hard to make yourself.[/QUOTE] That actually scares me more than the firearms used. He was able to make most of that in his house without difficulty. At least when you purchase a gun, you gotta go through a little bit of paperwork.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;45030771][B]in some ways[/B] in the US, private owners are not legally able to own any fully automatic weapon produced after 1986, which is perfectly legal in sweden *as far as i know*[/QUOTE] look up the process of getting a license here in sweden quickest way takes 6 months if you even get an approval, and then you have to be a seasoned hunter or an active IPSC marksman (if you stop being active your license risks being revoked)

[QUOTE=DOG-GY;45026865]or address the extensive problems and regressive ideologies that poison this country. like weeding out corruption, fixing healthcare (especially getting better recognition and treatment for mental health), social equality, education, not being an oligarchy, etc etc. as terrible as guns are, they are not possible to ban and that isn't a logical or viable way forward.[/QUOTE] As much as I don't want to get involved, I really dislike this particular argument. I mean, if it's a case of either banning the sale of guns or completely rebuilding society and how it operates essentially from the ground up, which is what it would take to get rid of corruption and oligarchy and to bring social equality, I know which one of the two options is quicker and way, way easier to do. Lets face it, society isn't going to be reformed to the extent that it would need to be to stop psychopaths from developing any time soon.

[QUOTE=w00tf1zh;45026783]Maybe Bernard from A Brave New World? It's my favourite book. Also what's it with facepunch and gasmasks? OT: I hate shooters, and I think if America banned guns this wouldn't have happened.[/QUOTE] You're easily the worst poster in SH