UK Government advisor calls to ban all energy drinks from schools - "‘Energy drinks are effectively - Polidicks

[B]Energy drinks should be banned from schools amid fears they are equivalent to dangerous drugs, according to a Government adviser. [/B] Government adviser John Vincent warned: ‘Energy drinks are effectively another form of drugs.’ He said: ‘The amount of sugar and caffeine in these drinks is in our view is effectively allowing drugs into schools. We don’t do that and neither do we think that should be part of school life. [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542769/Energy-drinks-packed-sugar-caffeine-dangerous-drugs-banned-schools-government-adviser-warns.html[/url]

First, ban soft drinks and energy drinks from your government offices. We'll see about the rest later.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;43607570]First, ban soft drinks and energy drinks from your government offices. We'll see about the rest later.[/QUOTE] energy drinks and soft drinks are a bit different though.

[QUOTE=matt.ant;43607549][B]Energy drinks should be banned from schools amid fears they are equivalent to dangerous drugs, according to a Government adviser. [/B] Government adviser John Vincent warned: ‘Energy drinks are effectively another form of drugs.’ He said: ‘The amount of sugar and caffeine in these drinks is in our view is effectively allowing drugs into schools. We don’t do that and neither do we think that should be part of school life. [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2542769/Energy-drinks-packed-sugar-caffeine-dangerous-drugs-banned-schools-government-adviser-warns.html[/url][/QUOTE] Drugs about as much as coffee with more sugar. Dangerous drugs? Well, if the kid is drinking a liter a day then i think it's not quite the drinks that are the problem here.

Energy drinks can fuck up people in school, especially when people use them to prepare for exams. It's not dangerous as such, just that students really shouldn't be drinking it there.

[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;43607570]First, ban soft drinks and energy drinks from your government offices. We'll see about the rest later.[/QUOTE] Well the government offices aren't run by 14 year olds actually..

energy drinks taste shit and are terrible for your health anyone who disagrees is objectively wrong

Then half the students would be falling asleep. It's a win-lose.

I don't understand how some people can drink like 2-3 a day. how are you even alive

[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;43607621]Then half the students would be falling asleep. It's a win-lose.[/QUOTE] if half of the students are falling asleep because they are dependent on energy drinks, then you have bigger problems.

i'm okay with this most of it tastes like piss, especially Monster Energy

[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;43607636]if half of the students are falling asleep because they are dependent on energy drinks, then you have bigger problems.[/QUOTE] It's just an unfortunate cycle that some kids fall into. I was dependent on them for a while too then I stopped getting them and started falling asleep more in class. but, at least I didn't feel like complete shit later.

They shouldn't be allowed in school because it's fucking retarded letting kids have them, for the same reason most shops where I live don't sell them to folk under 18.

Which is the store that has a age limit for them now? that should be mandatory imo. But the corner shops will probably still sell them regardless.

Schools ought to teach about nootropics. Students are going to be using them anyway and they're arguably positive if taken correctly. Plus, more knowledgeable students gain an unfair chemical advantage. A healthy dose of modafinil is much better for you than energy drink abuse.

Ban the government, research has discovered that it is bad for everyone.

For reference, Red Bull has around 76mg of caffeine, (in a 258g can) Monster has around 86mg, (in a 240g can) and Coke has around 39mg (in a 370g can). For reference, a caffeine pill has 100mg of caffeine, which means these energy drinks have about as much caffeine as a caffeine supplement, which you can, and people have, OD on. This doesn't count those massive 710ml cans that some people chug like normal cans of coke. The excess vitamins in the drink are also damaging to the kidney, as each drink contains 100% of your recommended daily intake of vitamins (like riboflavin and B6) and the more you drink, the more stress you put on your kidneys and liver, which must filter out the excess. Proportionally, the amount of caffeine in a single can of Monster is more than three times the amount in a can of coke, and caffeine as a LD50 in humans of about 150mg/kg. While you're not going to OD (very easily) on monster, the high concentration of caffeine and sugar is incredibly damaging to developing children and adolescents. It also has a high rate of physical dependence, and the withdrawal can be awful. sources: [URL="http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4266"]USDA Red Bull entry[/URL] [URL="http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4440"]USDA Monster Energy entry[/URL] [URL="http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4260?fg=&man=&lfacet=&format=&count=&max=25&offset=&sort=&qlookup=Carbonated+beverage"]USDA Coca Cola entry[/URL] [URL="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691502000960"]Caffeine Addiction[/URL] These drinks have no place being sold in a school setting to children who are still developing mentally and physically.

I'm fine with schools not selling energy drinks, or soft drinks for that matter. They shouldn't be confiscating drinks brought from home or anything like that, but I definitely don't think schools should be supplying students with stuff that is so blatantly unhealthy.

Thinking of the children.

[QUOTE=Aphtonites;43607637]i'm okay with this most of it tastes like piss, especially Monster Energy[/QUOTE] I think you mean [B][I]~*Mønster*~[/I][/B] like they write it to annoy scandinavians

I could never understand the success of Redbull, it just tastes weird and artificial. But then again I don't even drink beer... I know, it's me... I am a freak :(

While we're at it lets ban Coke, MD, etc

[QUOTE=Loriborn;43607734]For reference, Red Bull has around 76mg of caffeine, (in a 258g can) Monster has around 86mg, (in a 240g can) and Coke has around 39mg (in a 370g can). For reference, a caffeine pill has 100mg of caffeine, which means these energy drinks have about as much caffeine as a caffeine supplement, which you can, and people have, OD on. This doesn't count those massive 710ml cans that some people chug like normal cans of coke. The excess vitamins in the drink are also damaging to the kidney, as each drink contains 100% of your recommended daily intake of vitamins (like riboflavin and B6) and the more you drink, the more stress you put on your kidneys and liver, which must filter out the excess. Proportionally, the amount of caffeine in a single can of Monster is more than three times the amount in a can of coke, and caffeine as a LD50 in humans of about 150mg/kg. While you're not going to OD (very easily) on monster, the high concentration of caffeine and sugar is incredibly damaging to developing children and adolescents. It also has a high rate of physical dependence, and the withdrawal can be awful. sources: [URL="http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4266"]USDA Red Bull entry[/URL] [URL="http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4440"]USDA Monster Energy entry[/URL] [URL="http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4260?fg=&man=&lfacet=&format=&count=&max=25&offset=&sort=&qlookup=Carbonated+beverage"]USDA Coca Cola entry[/URL] [URL="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691502000960"]Caffeine Addiction[/URL] These drinks have no place being sold in a school setting to children who are still developing mentally and physically.[/QUOTE] Why would you measure liquid in grams? Here Red Bull comes in 250ml cans with 80mg caffeine (27g sugar), Monster comes in 500ml cans with 160mg of caffeine in (55g sugar). Caffeine pills generally come in 200mg pills here too.

[QUOTE=matt.ant;43607893]Why would you measure liquid in grams? Here Red Bull comes in 250ml cans with 80mg caffeine, Monster comes in 500ml cans with 160mg of caffeine in. Caffeine pills generally come in 200mg pills here too.[/QUOTE] Because when measuring percentage of a chemical in a whole, you measure by mass, not by volume. You have the amount of caffeine measured by mass, so you have to take the total mass of the drink to get a proper proportion.

ban it all except water and tofu

[QUOTE=Aurastorm;43607614]energy drinks taste shit and are terrible for your health anyone who disagrees is objectively wrong[/QUOTE] Of course they are, but I think people should be able to do what they want if it doesn't harm anyone else. If people want to drink this stuff, what right do lawmakers have to say that they can't?

I first tired redbull a couple of months ago, I'd had it before but mixed with vodka and it tasted good then. Redbull by itself is the most vile thing ever, not to mention I needed to shit not long after. Well, it was more a liquidly projectile thing

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;43607977]Of course they are, but I think people should be able to do what they want if it doesn't harm anyone else. If people want to drink this stuff, what right do lawmakers have to say that they can't?[/QUOTE] Children are not at an age to decide if they can handle a drink that tastes fine to them and gives them energy, but is killing them very slowly from the inside out. Just as a child can't consent to sex, they can't consent to drink what basically amounts to poison. (when administered to an adolescent or child) Over the age of 18, (or 16 in the UK) go ahead and kill yourself with whatever you want; but with kids, these drinks have no place.

These drinks being abused is a legitimate concern, but likening them to drugs is definitely the wrong way to go. Sure it sensationalizes to the target power-holding audience, but they are so obviously not drugs that this might rub them the wrong way like it does us.

[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;43607977]Of course they are, but I think people should be able to do what they want if it doesn't harm anyone else. If people want to drink this stuff, what right do lawmakers have to say that they can't?[/QUOTE] Because they're children? Remember school ends at 16 in the UK and on the back of energy drinks it says, "not to be consumed by persons under the age of 16"