• County Clerk Calls Cop on Gay Couple in KY
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[QUOTE]A same-sex couple in Morehead, Ky., went to the county clerk Monday requesting a marriage license — but were met instead by local police after Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis refused to issue the license. The couple filmed the encounter with officers and the clerk, who is currently facing a lawsuit from the American Civil Liberties Union of Kentucky for refusing to abide by the recent Supreme Court ruling that brought marriage to all 50 states[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.advocate.com/politics/marriage-equality/2015/07/08/watch-cops-respond-kentucky-gay-couple-requesting-marriage-lic[/url]
holy shit there are still clerks refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples? can they not get over the fact that it's finally legal in all states and issue the license? reading the article, this clerk is just something else.. apparently davis was sued prior because she refused to issue licenses to any couple, because of "religious concerns" and now is doing this.
A reminder that refusing to issue marriage licenses to [I]anyone[/I] because the Supreme Court is forcing you to issue them to _minority_ is exactly what racist fucks did during the civil rights movement. I hope Davis enjoys recorded as being on the wrong side of history.
I've always wanted to ask someone like this how they could possibly think that they are the good guy in this situation.
Video from the article [media]https://youtu.be/QU3yCvJWtDU[/media]
[QUOTE=G-Wash;48149934]I've always wanted to ask someone like this how they could possibly think that they are the good guy in this situation.[/QUOTE] They believe they are doing God's work. Of course they think they're on the good side.
Did I hear this right? Did those rednecks come in and start recording them and saying "This is what ignorance looks like!"? My god.
The couple should just sign their own marriage license on the grounds of their religious beliefs. That makes about as much sense as a clerk denying supreme court rulings.
You see, this is what has been happening to people for the last 100 years whenever a new group is given equal rights, it's just we haven't been able to see it personally like we can now.
I don't understand how the SC didn't settle whether county clerk's can use personal religious beliefs as an acceptable defense for not doing their ONE JOB, if you have a religious obligation talk to your senator, as long as youre being paid by the federal or state government you are expected to administer the law. Somehow its only a problem when clerks did issue certificates to gay couples before it was legalized, but after its the law its perfectly fine to ignore it to not issue certificates
Ridiculous that two of over a hundred county clerks won't do their jobs, and yet some idiots are calling on the Governor to call a special session to deal with the "problem" Only two clerks in the entire state are ducking the law, yet state legislators are acting as though there is a major revolt occurring. Fire the two offending clerks and be done with it.
A good cop would have turned around and arrested the clerk for violating the constitution.
[QUOTE=Kinversulath;48150502]Ridiculous that two of over a hundred county clerks won't do their jobs, and yet some idiots are calling on the Governor to call a special session to deal with the "problem" Only two clerks in the entire state are ducking the law, yet state legislators are acting as though there is a major revolt occurring. Fire the two offending clerks and be done with it.[/QUOTE] Because it infringes on their rights in a non-trivial way. There are lots of benifits to being married legally speaking, and denying those benefits because of a book you read is just stupid. Imagine the same scenario but replace "2 gays" with "a black man and a white woman" and you start to get a sense of why people are making such a big deal out of this: because it is a big deal.
[QUOTE=usaokay;48149904]Besides, has she ever heard of a separation between church and state?[/QUOTE] Apparently a ton of opponents to gay marriage forget that is a thing
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48150721]A good cop would have turned around and arrested the clerk for violating the constitution.[/QUOTE] I dont think you understand how this works
I'd love to see this done with two couples, one gay and one straight, side by side. Just to drive the point home. [QUOTE=James xX;48150729]Because it infringes on their rights in a non-trivial way. There are lots of benifits to being married legally speaking, and denying those benefits because of a book you read is just stupid. Imagine the same scenario but replace "2 gays" with "a black man and a white woman" and you start to get a sense of why people are making such a big deal out of this: because it is a big deal.[/QUOTE] They'd make a good example, though. You just throw those two in jail or just [I]fire them because they're not doing their job[/I] and every other biblethumper will think twice about refusing service.
[QUOTE=Shotz;48149948]Video from the article [media]https://youtu.be/QU3yCvJWtDU[/media][/QUOTE] Those people recording her back, what are they trying to prove? :v:
Why would you keep someone employed after causing a civil harassment lawsuit?
[QUOTE=latin_geek;48150839]I'd love to see this done with two couples, one gay and one straight, side by side. Just to drive the point home. They'd make a good example, though. You just throw those two in jail or just [I]fire them because they're not doing their job[/I] and every other biblethumper will think twice about refusing service.[/QUOTE] I think jail would make the better example. Being fired just means your boss doesn't agree with what you are doing, where as jail means [I]the law[/I] doesn't agree with what you are doing. Maybe hold them on contempt until they give them a marriage license?
[QUOTE=Th3applek1d;48150080]Did I hear this right? Did those rednecks come in and start recording them and saying "This is what ignorance looks like!"? My god.[/QUOTE] It's a shame the camerawoman didn't get the guy on camera too. I'd love for these people to be shamed publicly, but who are we kidding? Their social circle of cretins would probably applaud it.
[QUOTE=MilkBagz;48150916]Those people recording her back, what are they trying to prove? :v:[/QUOTE] I always find it really weird seeing people on the other side of a situation recording. They always feel... awkwardly eager, incapable of holding a phone in a way that doesn't look hilariously suspicious/badly acted, and can't just record from the sideline, opting to get in the way of the victim/subject or otherwise be obnoxious and loud (don't get me started on people yelling/chanting/taking loud over someone who's telling them something, especially like if a cop is trying to tell them to stand back from a situation), all with a sort of "got ya motherfucker" self satisfied attitude [editline]e[/editline] [QUOTE=Th3applek1d;48150080]Did I hear this right? Did those rednecks come in and start recording them and saying "This is what ignorance looks like!"? My god.[/QUOTE] pretty kind of them to put on a show if you ask me
was there a follow up after this. ..?
I can't be the only one who thought the rednecks taking selfie panoramas and saying "this is what ignorance looks like" wasn't the most wonderfully ironic thing ever, can I?
Watching this video makes me rage. Also the guy telling them to go to another county had the stereotypical gay voice.
not only down there. [url]http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2015/06/26/boone-clerk-says-marriage-licenses-friday/29344569/[/url]
[QUOTE=theevilldeadII;48151233]was there a follow up after this. ..?[/QUOTE] outside of a lawsuit against the clerk, no. I'm sure however the couple will get their marriage license soon enough.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;48149871]A reminder that refusing to issue marriage licenses to [I]anyone[/I] because the Supreme Court is forcing you to issue them to _minority_ is exactly what racist fucks did during the civil rights movement. [b]I hope Davis enjoys recorded as being on the wrong side of history.[/b][/QUOTE] Anyone who changes their mind because people in the future might look down on them is a coward.
[QUOTE=lazyguy;48152694]Anyone who changes their mind because people in the future might look down on them is a coward.[/QUOTE] I don't think she needs to change her mind because people in the future may disapprove. She should probably change her mind because she is refusing to do her job, breaking the oath she took when she became employed by the state, and is personally defying the Supreme Court of the United States. What she is doing is both illegal and an unacceptable dereliction of duty. To put this in perspective, this exact same shit was pulled against black people and mixed-race couples during the fight for civil rights in the 60s by racists.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;48150721]A good cop would have turned around and arrested the clerk for violating the constitution.[/QUOTE] Police officers are almost powerless when it comes to civil matters. Probably has very few options in this case.
[QUOTE=James xX;48151006]I think jail would make the better example. Being fired just means your boss doesn't agree with what you are doing, where as jail means [I]the law[/I] doesn't agree with what you are doing. Maybe hold them on contempt until they give them a marriage license?[/QUOTE] No, Regan firing the air traffic controllers and banning them from federal jobs basically sent the message loud and clear, besides which we shouldn't be throwing people in jail for religious convictions, firing and blacklisting is more than enough to get the message across, though I don't like blacklisting either
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