Falkland islanders begin voting in British status referendum - Polidicks

[img]http://imgkk.com/i/obm_.jpg[/img] [quote=The question]Do you wish the Falkland Islands to retain their current political status as an Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom? YES or NO[/quote] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21731760[/url] [quote]The people of the Falkland Islands have begun voting in a two-day referendum on whether to remain a British overseas territory. Some 1,672 British citizens - out of a population of about 2,900 - can vote. Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner has said the inhabitants' wishes are not relevant in what is a territorial issue.[/quote]

[QUOTE]Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner has said the inhabitants' wishes are not relevant in what is a territorial issue.[/QUOTE] Is she really that stupid? She won't win any support by just sweeping the local population under the carpet.

[QUOTE]Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner has said the inhabitants' wishes are not relevant in what is a territorial issue. [/QUOTE] Wow.

I sorta almost wish they would try something so whole NATO would kick their teeth out. Too bad it would probably mean a lot of casualties. We should have fully robotic armies so we can wage wars with no human suffering.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;39865815]I sorta almost wish they would try something so whole NATO would kick their teeth out. Too bad it would probably mean a lot of casualties. We should have fully robotic armies so we can wage wars with no human suffering.[/QUOTE] Robotic armies would be kind of pointless though. The whole point of a war is killing a lot of the opposing country.

go away argentine it's our territory regardless and nothing you can do about it

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;39865815]I sorta almost wish they would try something so whole NATO would kick their teeth out. Too bad it would probably mean a lot of casualties. We should have fully robotic armies so we can wage wars with no human suffering.[/QUOTE] Yeah but then War ceases to actually mean anything and we just have colossal episodes of Robot Wars. And then people will disregard the outcome of the war and just send the robots to kill people, and then you're back to square one, except now you're fighting robots and people. Also the Argentine president can say whatever the fuck she wants, she's a fucking mongo retard prick incapable of running a country.

[quote]Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner has said the inhabitants' wishes are not relevant in what is a territorial issue.[/quote] She's gotta be taking the piss. Nobody's that stupid.

Falkland Islander's will [B]Have[/B] to vote YES this time, or any time, since Falklands will be attacked and try to be annexed by Argentina, and the Argentina president has said that she won't care what'll happen to the Falkland population. Even if they did want to break off of britain, they can't do it now.

God dammit Argentina be patient Nobody can keep the islands population eternally british it's simply impossible without going bankrupt

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;39865815]We should have fully robotic armies so we can wage wars with no human suffering.[/QUOTE] [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-n1NCa6fASkQ/TyXjXLkbYSI/AAAAAAAAAb4/U3XK64ert1E/s1600/penultimate1.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Keyblockor;39865894]Falkland Islander's will [B]Have[/B] to vote YES this time, or any time, since Falklands will be attacked and try to be annexed by Argentina, and the Argentina president has said that she won't care what'll happen to the Falkland population. Even if they did want to break off of britain, they can't do it now.[/QUOTE] This is not a military issue ffs

Considering how badly Argentina is doing right now and all the president does is cause unnecessary fuss over those islands, I'm pretty sure the argentine people are not quite happy with her government right now

[QUOTE=Keyblockor;39865894]Falkland Islander's will [B]Have[/B] to vote YES this time, or any time, since Falklands will be attacked and try to be annexed by Argentina, and the Argentina president has said that she won't care what'll happen to the Falkland population. Even if they did want to break off of britain, they can't do it now.[/QUOTE] They want to be British dude, they've said it a million times, and if somehow Argentina manage to muster the balls to even set foot on the island they'll be fucking flattened before they can say "B-But they're ours Britain!"

[QUOTE=Lium;39865862]Robotic armies would be kind of pointless though. The whole point of a war is killing a lot of the opposing country.[/QUOTE] I don't think that's the point of war. The point of war is oftentimes to attain property such as territory, goods, and so forth.

fuck off argentina

[quote] Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner has said the inhabitants' wishes are not relevant in what is a territorial issue. [/quote] Uh guys??? Isn't self-determination [B]the[/B] key principle when it comes to territorial disputes? Like the only one the UN gives a shit about?

I can see Argentina collapsing in the next 40 years.

[QUOTE=Lium;39865862]Robotic armies would be kind of pointless though. The whole point of a war is killing a lot of the opposing country.[/QUOTE] As if wars weren't meaningless since ever.

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;39866353]As if wars weren't meaningless since ever.[/QUOTE] A war isn't meaningless to one side. A robot war isn't going to grind down your opponent into submitting to what you want, killing a lot of people (unfortunately) will.

[QUOTE=Jsm;39866435]A war isn't meaningless to one side. A robot war isn't going to grind down your opponent into submitting to what you want, killing a lot of people (unfortunately) will.[/QUOTE] Well robotics will represent a lot of a countries hypothetical industry.

[QUOTE=Jsm;39866435]A war isn't meaningless to one side. A robot war isn't going to grind down your opponent into submitting to what you want, killing a lot of people (unfortunately) will.[/QUOTE] Assuming the robots would be significantly superior at combat than living forces (which seems to be quite likely at some point), the country which runs out of robots sorta ends up threatened by genocide and will have to submit. Wars wouldn't be fought to the last combat capable man, but the last combat capable robot.

[QUOTE=Jsm;39866435]A war isn't meaningless to one side. A robot war isn't going to grind down your opponent into submitting to what you want, killing a lot of people (unfortunately) will.[/QUOTE] Actually, destroying the enemies military assets will, in most cases, force them to submit. A robot war would still work

[QUOTE=Jsm;39866040]Uh guys??? Isn't self-determination [B]the[/B] key principle when it comes to territorial disputes? Like the only one the UN gives a shit about?[/QUOTE] It's not really self determination if you plant your own people there so they are the majority of the vote, then call a vote to see if they want to retain ties to their own home country is it? I think this is one of those situations where pride has really interfered with rational negotiation. Neither side wants to lose face even though on the surface this problem is ridiculous. For the UK, is holding on to this last bit of territory so important? It doesn't make the UK look like a colonial power like in the old days, it looks kind of lame actually. For Argentina, they took their shot and lost. It's embarrassing to see them cry about this all the time, take them back or shut the fuck up already.

[QUOTE=Zally13;39865955]I don't think that's the point of war. The point of war is often times to attain property such as territory, goods, and so forth.[/QUOTE] To me, that's what the motivation of most wars seems to be; acquisition of territory and resources by force. It's kinda foolish tbh, since as I recall from some old quote, only a fool tries to cheat death; a smart person makes a fair trade. The death part doesn't quite apply to the current territorial situation, but the principle still stands, wherein only a fool would try to take what isn't theirs by force, whereas a smart negotiator would offer something up in exchange; it's an important part of the concept of trading. If Argentina wants the Falkland Islands back, they would have to make a suitable offering of goods or territory to make it equal; however there is still the matter of the population and whether they want to be governed by Argentina, which judging by what I've seen they probably don't. However there have been wars where killing has been on the agenda, like back in World War 2 when the Nazis were committing genocide against Jewish people (Godwin not intended), and there have been other genocidal campaigns in the past, but usually wars are "take territories and resources by force", and not primarily focused on killing every last member of a specific creed or race. Ideology also factors in somewhere, though I don't know if the Crusades were primarily driven by religious desire to claim the Holy Land in the name of God, or whether it was just lords and kings seeking to expand their domains. Still, the future of the Falklands depends on what the population decides; whether they want to return to Argentinian dominion (is dominion the right word for that kind of territorial control?) or stay under the British flag.

[QUOTE=Lium;39865862]Robotic armies would be kind of pointless though. The whole point of a war is killing a lot of the opposing country.[/QUOTE] [quote=Sun Tzu]For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill.[/quote]

[QUOTE=The golden;39865738]Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner can fuck right off.[/QUOTE] She just knows the Falklanders are going to vote pro-UK. If she said "ah yes well if the islanders vote then we can decide who gets them" she pretty much hands them over to Britain.

since when have acme products worked, sobotnik tell me one time they have worked right would you like some [I]check[/I] with that [I]mate[/I]?

[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;39865815]I sorta almost wish they would try something so whole NATO would kick their teeth out. Too bad it would probably mean a lot of casualties. We should have fully robotic armies so we can wage wars with no human suffering.[/QUOTE] I think the first nation, corporation or organisation that can first field a sizeable robotic force will shake shit up significantly.

[QUOTE=Sprockethead;39866783]I think the first nation, corporation or organisation that can first field a sizeable robotic force will shake shit up significantly.[/QUOTE] Which is why I want to be citizen,member or leader of it.