• House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses primary to Tea Party challenger
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[quote]WASHINGTON — In one of the most stunning primary election upsets in congressional history, the House majority leader, Eric Cantor, was soundly defeated on Tuesday by a Tea Party-backed economics professor who had hammered him for being insufficiently conservative.[/quote] [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/11/us/politics/eric-cantor-loses-gop-primary.html?_r=0]Source: The New York Times[/url]
Oh thank god, now Obama and congress can finally start working together!
Eric Cantor, insufficiently conservative. Tea Party voters are [I]fucknuts insane[/I].
this is bad news
From what has been going around, it was his pro amnesty stance that did him in. Now comes the interesting part if Brat can win against his Democrat opponent , unless this district is gerrymandered to heck and back.
Wow Eric cantor finally retiring, don't know if a crazy twisted tea party guy taking his seat will better things, but just removing him opens things up to maybe a less partisan congress depending on who replaces him as minority leader, not as his seat [editline]10th June 2014[/editline] Oh wait I was thinking Mitch McConnell
[QUOTE=ilikecorn;45068162]Its in the US.. so it probably is.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://www.va7thdems.org/images/va07_576x346.gif[/IMG] Doesn't look too oddly shaped, but does cover a lot of rural area.
From what I've heard, Brat should win his district fairly easily. Interestingly enough, Brat and his democratic competition are both professors at the same college.
Anyone who says that there's can't be grassroots political change in the U.S., and that it's only dominated by corporations needs to look at the Tea Party.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;45067983]Eric Cantor, insufficiently conservative. Tea Party voters are [I]fucknuts insane[/I].[/QUOTE] They really are. From what I've heard, [I]immigration[/I] was the big issue they were pounding Cantor on. Apparently Tea Party voters want them all lined up and shot, since that's about the only position to the right of Cantor's.
The older GOP members have been losing to Tea Party members one by one over the past 5 years. I must have made half a dozen threads pointing it out over that time period. The GOP is going to get much more staunch soon. It'll either lead to the government being deadlocked completely with the GOP and Dems becoming uncooperative in every aspect, or it'll lead to a Dem supermajority in government as the Tea Party gains in the primaries but loses in the overall elections. I seriously don't know which situation is worse.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;45069114]The older GOP members have been losing to Tea Party members one by one over the past 5 years. I must have made half a dozen threads pointing it out over that time period. The GOP is going to get much more staunch soon. It'll either lead to the government being deadlocked completely with the GOP and Dems becoming uncooperative in every aspect, or it'll lead to a Dem supermajority in government as the Tea Party gains in the primaries but loses in the overall elections. I seriously don't know which situation is worse.[/QUOTE] How would a Democrat supermajority be worse than anything?
[QUOTE=Explosions;45069145]How would a Democrat supermajority be worse than anything?[/QUOTE] Well, it led to Obamacare... a plan that both sides seem to agree is bad, albet in opposite ways.
[QUOTE=Explosions;45068417]Anyone who says that there's can't be grassroots political change in the U.S., and that it's only dominated by corporations needs to look at the Tea Party.[/QUOTE][url=http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all]Well[/url],[url=http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/early/2013/02/07/tobaccocontrol-2012-050815.full.pdf+html]sorry[/url] [url=http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-fenn/2011/02/02/tea-party-funding-koch-brothers-emerge-from-anonymity]to[/url] [url=http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us/politics/tax-filings-hint-at-extent-of-koch-brothers-reach.html?_r=0]burst[/url] [url=http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/david-koch-seeded-major-tea-party-group-private-donor-list-reveals-20130924]your[/url] [url=http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/libertarian-billionaire-agenda-propelling-tea-party-monster-has-shut-down]bubble[/url].
[QUOTE=Explosions;45068417]Anyone who says that there's can't be grassroots political change in the U.S., and that it's only dominated by corporations needs to look at the Tea Party.[/QUOTE] Or not and avoid going batshit insane and relying on racist old people.
I'm so confused, are a good portion of Americans really Tea Party supporters? Is America really that far right?
[QUOTE=Comrade_Eko;45069507]I'm so confused, are a good portion of Americans really Tea Party supporters? Is America really that far right?[/QUOTE] Not a good portion, but enough for them to be noticeable.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;45069709]Not a good portion, but enough for them to be noticeable.[/QUOTE] If you think conservatives wouldn't support a tea party backed candidate over a democrat, then you need to wake up and smell the denial....
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;45069736]If you think conservatives wouldn't support a tea party backed candidate over a democrat, then you need to wake up and smell the denial....[/QUOTE] It's a balancing act though. Too far to the center and you get hard core conservative voter apathy, but too far to to the right scares away independent voters. Or you get a Romney situation of both happening at the same time.
[QUOTE=Coppermoss;45071626]It's a balancing act though. Too far to the center and you get hard core conservative voter apathy, but too far to to the right scares away independent voters. Or you get a Romney situation of both happening at the same time.[/QUOTE] If only there was some way to have more than two parties so all these groups could be catered for and properly represented
[QUOTE=Comrade_Eko;45069507]I'm so confused, are a good portion of Americans really Tea Party supporters? Is America really that far right?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/tea-party-support-hits-new-lows-poll/[/url] It's down to about 15%. What they are good at is courting billionaires for campaign money, smearing establishment Republican candidates, and turning out in primaries.
[QUOTE=Explosions;45069145]How would a Democrat supermajority be worse than anything?[/QUOTE] Democrats aren't angels either. They're nearly as bad as the Republicans. A large amount of U.S politicians are corrupt or incompetent, and these traits cross both party's lines.
[QUOTE=Explosions;45069145]How would a Democrat supermajority be worse than anything?[/QUOTE] The democrats are just as corrupt, incompetent, and uncaring as any republican. The only true difference between the two parties is the song and dance they perform.
should voted for me and America wouldn't be all fucked up, just sayin'
You should form the "I told you so" party. :v:
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;45073012]You should form the "I told you so" party. :v:[/QUOTE] That's what the tea party thinks it is.
obamacare was one healthcare system prior it's entire destruction. Everyone paid a health tax in one giant pool. Everyone would have won. Merge all the companies under the government if they fight it fuck off. Employement rates wouldn't suffer as we'd need all the same manpower.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;45072324]The democrats are just as corrupt, incompetent, and uncaring as any republican. The only true difference between the two parties is the song and dance they perform.[/QUOTE] Lol so there are no policy differences between the two parties? Give me a break.
[QUOTE=The golden;45073668]Isn't Obamacare bad because the GoP had it torn to shreds beyond all recognition before it even had a vague hope of even passing? Correct if wrong, of course.[/QUOTE] Not exactly Democrats had majority in both the House and the Senate, and when the bill was passed every Republican in both the house and Senate voted nay on the resolution. The changes were due to trying to get the support of the moderate democrats in the party. The democrats rushed the bill out while they still had majority. The main problem was that their were two different Acts passed, one by House and one by the Senate. The House one had almost everything Obama wanted in it, while the senate one was watered down in an attempt to appeal to the moderate democratic senators. After the senate bill was passed one of the democratic senators became ill and was replaced in a special election by a Republican senator meaning that the republicans on the senate could filibuster the house bill meaning that to pass his affordable care act he would have to sign the watered down Senate bill, which is the version we got. Edit: You're probably thinking about the attempt to amend the defanged healthcare act even then all of the Republican senate amendments were stricken from the bill. The republicans weren't able to do much to the bill itself, all they could really do was sit in the corner and complain.
[QUOTE=The golden;45073668]Isn't Obamacare bad because the GoP had it torn to shreds beyond all recognition before it even had a vague hope of even passing? Correct if wrong, of course.[/QUOTE] they added a lot of provisions, but so did the democrats, thats why the damn thing was larger than all the harry potter novels combined. i have never agreed with the approach they took, using a moonshot bill instead of individual parts. by putting everything in one bill its much harder to repeal the bad parts that aren't working and keep the good parts like insurance reform, also palosci telling people to vote not read basically summerised this entire administration [editline]11th June 2014[/editline] also the whole insurance based approach they took is kinda shit and we'll feel it next time an insurance company goes under, a national healthcare system is the only way to [I]fix[/I] our national healthcare system
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