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[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21737748[/url]
[quote]A suspect in the notorious rape and murder of a female student in India's capital, Delhi, has been found dead in prison, his lawyer has confirmed.
Police say Ram Singh hanged himself in Delhi's Tihar jail, but defence lawyers and his family suspect he was murdered.
Home Minister Sushilkumar Shinde described his death as a "major lapse".
Mr Singh, 33, was one of five men being held in the case, which outraged India and sparked debate about the treatment of women. They all deny the charges.[/quote]
One less sick fuck in the world.
Is this one of those times where "Nothing of value was lost." applies?
[QUOTE=Forumaster;39876692]Is this one of those times where "Nothing of value was lost." applies?[/QUOTE]
If he really did it (as he was only suspect) then I would say yes.
And not a tear was shed that day.
Do they actually know he was one of the rapist
That piece of shit deserved it.
Justice is swift.
[QUOTE=Vasili;39876723]Do they actually know he was one of the rapist[/QUOTE]
The victim was biting a few of the assailants.
He and a few others were caught with the bus that the woman was raped in and more than likely the other attackers will confirm him. If not, the bites will if he had any.
[QUOTE=sarge997;39876731]That piece of shit deserved it.
Justice is swift.[/QUOTE]He was a [I]suspect,[/I] he wasn't yet proven to be guilty you Neanderthal. And we'll likely never know for sure now, unless they decide to follow the terrible example of Russia or the Vatican and try him post-mortem.
This isn't good. At all. He was a suspect, not proven guilty.
More than that, if he WAS a rapist, he would have deserved the punishment written out in the law which I am pretty sure is not a death sentence, and nothing more.
[QUOTE=phygon;39877700]This isn't good. At all. He was a suspect, not proven guilty.
More than that, if he WAS a rapist, he would have deserved the punishment written out in the law which I am pretty sure is not a death sentence, and nothing more.[/QUOTE]
You forget that this is the area of the world that thinks women aren't even human and rapists most of the time will get off with nothing.
[QUOTE=sarge997;39876731]That piece of shit deserved it.
Justice is swift.[/QUOTE]
That's not justice, that's vengeance. No proof he did it, and if rape is considered dehumanising and disgusting (quite rightly so) then death should be at least twice as bad.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;39877784]You forget that this is the area of the world that thinks women aren't even human and rapists most of the time will get off with nothing.[/QUOTE]
You're right, but then it's a government problem. Treat the cause, not the symptom, and get people to get the laws changed. Vigilante justice isn't good.
If he was actually part of that case, then good riddance to him.
But we don't know for sure if he was or not.
The reported bite marks on some of them will hopefully prove one way or another, or at least provide some headway.
Regardless, it shouldn't have happened. He should have stood trial, been found guilty, and [I]then[/I] murdered in his cell.
However, there isn't a single person here that can pretend that this wasn't going to happen.
It's like what happened with Jeffery Dahmer.
[QUOTE=phygon;39877819]You're right, but then it's a government problem. Treat the cause, not the symptom, and get people to get the laws changed. Vigilante justice isn't good.[/QUOTE]
They base their government on their religion, which states what I did above.
They're practically in the middle ages as far as this is concerned, so it'll probably be several hundred years before they figure it out.
The attitude of some here is worrying. Without getting into the rehab vs punishment debate, killing a criminal is never the solution, for the simply fact that humans can get it wrong. Asides from the fact a potentially innocent person will have been killed, the case will be considered closed and the actual criminal will still be free. Take these two:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Quick[/url]
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/08/lynette-white-murder-stephen-miller[/url]
In other countries they'd have been killed for crimes which they never committed, and in the case of Lynette White, the actual murderer is potentially still at large.
[QUOTE=QwertySecond;39877981]The attitude of some here is worrying. Without getting into the rehab vs punishment debate, killing a criminal is never the solution, for the simply fact that humans can get it wrong. Asides from the fact a potentially innocent person will have been killed, the case will be considered closed and the actual criminal will still be free. Take these two:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Quick[/url]
[url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/sep/08/lynette-white-murder-stephen-miller[/url]
In other countries they'd have been killed for crimes which they never committed, and in the case of Lynette White, the actual murderer is potentially still at large.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget this as well.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Evans[/url]
[QUOTE=Forumaster;39876692]Is this one of those times where "Nothing of value was lost." applies?[/QUOTE]
Actually the integrity of the justics system was lost.
[editline]11th March 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Forumaster;39877784]You forget that this is the area of the world that thinks women aren't even human and rapists most of the time will get off with nothing.[/QUOTE]
That doesn't influence the moral/juridical dilemma.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;39877965]They base their government on their religion, which states what I did above.
They're practically in the middle ages as far as this is concerned, so it'll probably be several hundred years before they figure it out.[/QUOTE]
You're being borderline racist and pretty ignorant with what you're saying here, and yes, the attitudes of some of you guys are troubling. It's not "justice" when a man not properly convicted of anything dies like this.
"They" do this, "They" do that. Stop generalizing.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;39877965]They base their government on their religion, which states what I did above.
They're practically in the middle ages as far as this is concerned, so it'll probably be several hundred years before they figure it out.[/QUOTE]
so wait if you're admitting that this is a problem inherent in their government how exactly can you see this dude getting stabbed as a good thing
oh well
Be careful guys, the Rehab guys might get here soon.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;39882231]Be careful guys, the Rehab guys might get here soon.[/QUOTE]
I think the "innocent until proven guilty" guys should arrive first
As for you "kill everyone and let god sort 'em out" guys, well, you shouldn't have arrived at all imo
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39882255]I think the "innocent until proven guilty" guys should arrive first
As for you "kill everyone and let god sort 'em out" guys, well, you shouldn't have arrived at all imo[/QUOTE]
I'm all for innocent before proven guilty, but I feel some people are just unable to be rehabilitated. Particularly child molesters, serial murderers, and violent rapists.
Yep, after reading people's comments here I'm done with SH.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;39882271]I'm all for innocent before proven guilty, but I feel some people are just unable to be rehabilitated. Particularly child molesters, serial murderers, and violent rapists.[/QUOTE]
This person was never fucking convicted of anything. He was a [i]suspect[/i].
An equivalent event is me saying "moustacheman raped me" and then you getting murdered for it. Is that your idea of justice? Even if he probably was the guy, nothing was proven yet.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;39882317]This person was never fucking convicted of anything. He was a [i]suspect[/i].
An equivalent event is me saying "moustacheman raped me" and then you getting murdered for it. Is that your idea of justice? Even if he probably was the guy, nothing was proven yet.[/QUOTE]
I see your point there, they should have given him a trial, agreeably.
NO. Why was this given winners. This is a horrible, horrible thing. He wasn't proven guilty.
If you want justice, you do it the right way. Not by letting the other inmates kill him.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;39882366]I see your point there, they should have given him a trial, agreeably.[/QUOTE]
It's terrible that I had to coax you into begrudgingly admitting that people should get trials
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