• NATO chief says Wikileaks papers may endanger forces
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[quote]MADRID — NATO chief Anders Fogh Rasmussen warned Friday the release by Wikileaks of a huge cache of classfied Afghan war documents may endanger the safety of international and Afghan troops. WikiLeaks has released about 77,000 leaked US military documents about the war and has plans to release about 15,000 more despite criticism that it may place at risk informants and others who are identified. "I find it very unfortunate to publish confidential papers that might also compromise the security of our own forces and of Afghan citizens cooperating with their own government and with the international troops," Rasmussen told a joint news conference after talks with Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero. WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is facing an investigation by Swedish prosecutors over rape allegations. Assange, 39, has said the allegations are part of a smear campaign aimed at discrediting the whistleblowing website, which is locked in a row with the Pentagon over the release of the Afghan war documents. The United States and NATO have 150,000 troops in Afghanistan aiming to quell the insurgency that began soon after the Taliban regime was overthrown in a US-led invasion in late 2001.[/quote] Source: [url]http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i48lfUteu-KhUmC8zTn271FLrEow[/url] :frog:
too bad
You know what endangers troops? Sending them into a foreign country and waging war.
They've been saying this for like a month. [B]NOTHING HAS OR WILL HAPPEN. [/B]
[QUOTE=GodKing;24801459]You know what endangers troops? Sending them into a foreign country and waging war.[/QUOTE] That's what troops are partly for?
[QUOTE=GodKing;24801459]You know what endangers troops? Sending them into a foreign country and waging war.[/QUOTE] Sure, but you don't have to increase thier risks. Should realese them after the war, no problem.
[QUOTE=Cpt. Private;24801710]Sure, but you don't have to increase thier risks. Should realese them after the war, no problem.[/QUOTE] Why not? It isn't like they're fighting for a good cause.
:regd09: What starpluck said holds.
[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24801757]Why not? It isn't like they're fighting for a good cause.[/QUOTE] Does that matter? It's not the soldiers fault, but the politicans'. Also, why would you endanger anyones life unnesecerily?
[QUOTE=FreeThinker;24801757]Why not? It isn't like they're fighting for a good cause.[/QUOTE] An attempt to end terrorism is not worth fighting for it seems.
Barely endangering them.
[QUOTE=Levithan;24802546][b]An attempt to end terrorism[/b] is not worth fighting for it seems.[/QUOTE] :frog:
[QUOTE=Cpt. Private;24802484]Does that matter? It's not the soldiers fault, but the politicans'. Also, why would you endanger anyones life unnesecerily?[/QUOTE] Well then it should be the politicians doing something about this (i.e. pulling them out). If they cared so much they would have removed the troops a long time ago. Besides it's not like you can end terror. Hell, waging war and decimating a country is not the way you "end" terrorism.
Oh man, not the chief of NATO!
Huzzah! Let's endanger our forces just so we can get some information which is mostly of no use to the public anyway! :downs:
[QUOTE=David29;24804476]Huzzah! Let's endanger our forces just so we can get some information which is mostly of no use to the public anyway! :downs:[/QUOTE] :regd09:
[QUOTE=imadaman;24805041]:regd09:[/QUOTE] Well, what I am alluding to is correct, isn't it? How much of the information that is leak is of any actual use to the public? I have taken a look at wikileaks and yet to see much that is of any interest. Yet it seems to be - by some people - perfectly acceptable to leak these documents that could put lives on the line... for what reason exactly?
I was referring to the "Let's endanger our forces" part.
Pff, so the guns and IED's don't endanger them already?
I read the leaks. Its like free news stories for the press, they can have great fun with this.
[QUOTE=imadaman;24806956]I was referring to the "Let's endanger our forces" part.[/QUOTE] And how, exactly, is it not endangering our forces?
Boo-fucking-hoo. Censor the names of undercover informants, and we're all good. Its not like a group of Taliban fighters are going to be sitting on a ledge, looking through a MASSIVE roster of names, and cross reference those names against the names of the NATO squad members that are two miles down the road.
[QUOTE=Levithan;24802546]An attempt to end terrorism is not worth fighting for it seems.[/QUOTE] According to the documents leaked by Wikileaks, it seems all we've managed to do is strengthen recruitment of terrorists in the middle east.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;24803241]Well then it should be the politicians doing something about this (i.e. pulling them out). If they cared so much they would have removed the troops a long time ago. Besides it's not like you can end terror. Hell, waging war and decimating a country is not the way you "end" terrorism.[/QUOTE] You'd only be a class A idiot to believe politicians actually care about their people, especially those who willing give up their lives. :colbert:
[QUOTE=David29;24812722]And how, exactly, is it not endangering our forces?[/QUOTE] It's just that, they don't endanger the forces.
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;24803241]Well then it should be the politicians doing something about this (i.e. pulling them out). If they cared so much they would have removed the troops a long time ago. Besides it's not like you can end terror. Hell, waging war and decimating a country is not the way you "end" terrorism.[/QUOTE] Aye, they're making the terrorists out as something we can defeat, like a real army. The terrorists aren't soldiers, they're people. People that probably have a home and appear like ordinary people most of the time, you can't destroy that. That's kinda what these Wikileaks documents are all about, seeing all the things that we're doing "in the name of freedom" over there, like killing a whole news crew and all these other things, it's really sad that we're sending our soldiers to some backwater country to die meaninglessly in a conflict that can't be won and will probably only occupy a paragraph or two in a history book ten years from now. :sigh:
[QUOTE=imadaman;24817656]It's just that, they don't endanger the forces.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I forgot some random person I don't know on the internet knows more than a NATO official - as well as any other official in history, either in government or in the military, who realised that making information on your forces and military actions readily available to the enemy is [b]a bad idea[/b].
[QUOTE=David29;24820614]Sorry, I forgot some random person I don't know on the internet knows more than a NATO official - as well as any other official in history, either in government or in the military, who realised that making information on your forces and military actions readily available to the enemy is [b]a bad idea[/b].[/QUOTE] You've got to be shitting me. Us civilians know infinitely more than those run of the mill generals. We have internet!
am i the only one noticing the rapist allegation
[QUOTE=David29;24820614]Sorry, I forgot some random person I don't know on the internet knows more than a NATO official - as well as any other official in history, either in government or in the military, who realised that making information on your forces and military actions readily available to the enemy is [b]a bad idea[/b].[/QUOTE] Are you serious? Are you seriously serious? How old are you? Have you ever achieved any qualification in history? Do you understand how the world works? At all? What this NATO official is doing is called Propaganda. I'll bold it for you, to make it more obvious: [B]Propaganda[/B] Here is a handy link: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda The Media; Including most newspapers & news channels. Freedom advocates and military organizations have been fighting a huge propaganda war [I]in the 21st century[/I] over wikileaks. Propaganda is more than 1930's posters telling people how beautiful the USSR is. He is fighting to get most newspapers readers on his side, and condemn wikileaks for publishing very important information regarding the Iraq War. [B]They want us to not care/support the day they go into his office[/B] and arrest him. [editline]04:13PM[/editline] [QUOTE=BrickInHead;24820863]am i the only one noticing the rapist allegation[/QUOTE] That story was proven false ages ago.
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