95% of Marines uncomfortable serving with openly gay troops - Polidicks

Wow, this is shocking, so much for LGBT rights in the military. Despite this, I still believe they should repeal the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy, what are your thoughts on this? [quote]WASHINGTON -- As many as 95 percent of Marines would be uncomfortable serving alongside openly gay troops, the retiring commandant of the Marine Corps told Fox News in an exclusive interview. Gen. James Conway told Fox News' Jennifer Griffin that a majority of his men and women think a repeal of the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy barring gays from serving openly will be problematic, so he has to believe that, too. "When we take a survey of our Marines, by and large, they say that they are concerned that it will cause potential problems with regard to their order and discipline -- that it will impact their sense of unit cohesion," Conway said. Gen. Conway was the first member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to speak out against a repeal earlier this year after Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Joint Chiefs Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen publicly endorsed President Obama's desire to change the law. Conway plans to retire Oct. 22 after 40 years of service with the Marines. He's only the second Marines chief ever to serve his entire tenure as commandant during wartime. And wartime, he said, is "probably not the time" to change the military's policy on gays. Right now, there are 20,000 Marines serving in Afghanistan. Conway told Fox he "wouldn't hazard a guess" as to how many are gay, but he think it's a small percentage, in the "low single digits." Conway says these few gays don't cause a problem now because their homosexuality is not known publicly. But he said if their sexuality does become public, "90 to 95 percent of the Marines" he has informally surveyed are concerned about the consequences. Conway cited impromptu surveys he has conducted by a "show of hands" among Marines at town hall style meetings. Late Thursday, Obama's Justice Department requested that California U.S. District Judge Virginia Phillips allow the military to continue enforcing the gay ban during the appeal of her landmark ruling Tuesday, which declared the law unconstitutional. The move amounted to an admission from the White House that they would not let this policy be legislated in the courts, that it had to be decided by Congress. Congress has failed once already this year to pass a change the law, even with a majority of Democrats in both houses and with public opinion polls that slant heavily toward a repeal. Gen. Conway agrees that only the Congress should have that ability. "I think that the Congress represents the will of the people," he said. "And we are a nation of laws. The military abides by the laws. And I think we would be much more comfortable, if it's going to change, it comes as a result of the change to the law, not an independent judicial determination in a district somewhere in California." Meanwhile the military finds itself in the awkward position of having to abide by an injunction that calls on the government "immediately to suspend or discontinue any investigation or discharge, separation or other proceeding that may have been commenced under "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." Conway says this unfortunately creates "an element of uncertainty" among commanders in the field about how they should handle existing cases.[/quote] [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/10/15/retiring-marines-chief-warns-uncomfortable-serving-openly-gay-troops/[/url]

Deal with it, devil dogs.

Here's your problem, [img]http://www.foxnews.com/static/all/img/head/logo-foxnews.png[/img]

[QUOTE=Violetta;25736688]Wow, this is shocking[/QUOTE] Really? [I]really[/I]?

[QUOTE=The golden;25736721]95% is a bit much. I'm going to have to call bullshit. Even more so since it's Fox.[/QUOTE] It's probably just a misleading conclusion drawn from a vague question, the number probably isn't bullshit.

Even if it is true, what is the problem serving with gay troops? The gay troops might be the ones that save those 95%'s asses when their legs get blown off.

this is news apparently

[QUOTE=Leonmyster;25736775]Even if it is true, what is the problem serving with gay troops? They might be the ones that save their asses when their legs get blown off.[/QUOTE] Because of misinformation about homosexuality.

Sounds like he fucking made it up.

I wonder how they feel about serving with people they don't know are gay.

well a lot of people in the army are republican (not all though) so that explains that part and perhaps the source is biased because i would not think that even 95 of super christians would mind being with a gay guy oh never mind its fox new you know it cant be true

Wouldn't doubt it since those marines are the very same jock-assholes who used to make fun of the gay kids in high school.

Since when has this source ever been [img]http://www.foxnews.com/static/all/img/head/logo-foxnews.png[/img]? [sp]Yeah, I DID only post this because the logo's text and mine match up. [/sp]

If I was in the military, I'd RATHER know if someone was gay if they're open about it.

I call BS they probably got 10 anti-gay troops in a room, and the last guy said "I dunno"

I wonder who the other %5 are.

Depends on what kind of "openly gay" Openly gay as in: HEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYY HOW'S IT GOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN Or: I like dudes If it's the former, fuck yea I'd be uncomfortable

[quote]WASHINGTON — An internal Pentagon study has found that most U.S. troops and their families don't care whether gays are allowed to serve openly and think the policy of "don't ask, don't tell" could be done away with, according to officials familiar with its findings. The survey results were expected to be used by gay rights advocates to bolster their argument that the 1993 law on gays could be repealed immediately with little harm done to the military. But the survey also was expected to reveal challenges the services could face in overturning the long-held policy, including overcoming fierce opposition in some parts of the military even if they represent a minority. Details on the survey results were still scarce Thursday, with the Pentagon declining to discuss the findings until after Dec. 1 when it rolls out its own plan for repeal. The officials who disclosed the survey's findings spoke on condition of anonymity because the results had not been released. NBC News' Richard Engel first reported the findings Thursday, and appeared that evening on "The Rachel Maddow Show." President Barack Obama has said "don't ask, don't tell" unfairly discriminates against gays. Defense Secretary Robert Gates and Adm. Mike Mullen, the military's top uniformed officer, agree but want to move slowly to ensure that military effectiveness doesn't suffer. Among their top concerns is that forcing too much change, too soon on an institution that historically has been reluctant to embrace gays could prompt a backlash among troops and their families. With a Democratic-controlled Congress already considering a change to the law, Gates in February ordered a yearlong study into the matter. As part of that effort, the Pentagon sent out some 400,000 surveys to troops and another 150,000 to family members on the military's policy toward gays. Officials said that with the survey results complete, the working group is analyzing the results and working on a plan to overturn the policy should Congress repeal the law. Gay rights groups attacked the 103-question survey. They said it assumes troops don't want to serve with openly gay service members and repeatedly uses the term "homosexual," considered to be outdated and derogatory. The survey was prepared by the Maryland-based research firm Westat under a $4.5 million contract. Earlier this month, the Pentagon was forced to lift its ban on openly serving gays for eight days after a federal judge in California ordered the military to do so. The Justice Department has appealed and a federal appeals court granted a temporary stay of the injunction.[/quote] [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/28/gay-military-acceptance-m_n_775753.html[source]Source (From something that isn't FOXNews)[/url] On the contrary, the news posted in OP was from the Marines.

everything fox news saying is untrue so I would not take it to srsly

I'm sure 100 years ago, the vast majority of soldiers would have been uncomfortable serving with openly black troops. They'll learn to deal.

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[QUOTE=Mane;25736868] openly black troops. [/QUOTE] Hey, if they were black, they should have kept it to themselves. No need to tell everybody what color your skin is.

seriously why does your sexual orientation have anything to do with the military isn't the whole purpose of the military to kill people and not talk about personal shit? way to be professional, guys.

[QUOTE=Leonmyster;25736863][url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/28/gay-military-acceptance-m_n_775753.html[source]Source (From something that isn't FOXNews)[/url] On the contrary, the news posted in OP was from the Marines.[/QUOTE] so does that link prove that they made it up

[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;25736854]I wonder who the other %5 are.[/QUOTE] homosexuals

[QUOTE=Mingebox;25736736]Really? [I]really[/I]?[/QUOTE] Yeah, really

It's fox. It's more than likely made up just to be homophobic and "Christian".

[QUOTE=imasillypiggys;25736831]well a lot of people in the army are republican (not all though) so that explains that part and perhaps the source is biased because i would not think that even 95 of super christians would mind being with a gay guy oh never mind its fox new you know it cant be true[/QUOTE] What the fuck are you on about retard?

So its ok for men to be checking out the ladies and the ladies to feel uncomfortable, but its not ok for the men to be checking out the men? :dominic:

I'd only really be uncomfortable in th showers or something, i'd probably get over it though