Obama working with RIAA/MPAA to crackdown on all piracy
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[quote]While they may never be able to truly [URL="http://www.dailytech.com/New+Suit+Against+Limewire+Could+Total+15+Times+Music+Industrys+Yearly+Income/article18769.htm"]defeat piracy[/URL] and drive it from the lurking depths of the internet, copyright protection attack-dog organizations like the RIAA and MPAA have long dreamed of the day when they would no longer have to [URL="http://www.dailytech.com/RIAA+Lawsuit+Campaign+Unprofitable+Costing+Millions/article9262.htm"]pay for their own copyright enforcement[/URL]. Now that dream is on the verge of coming true, thanks to the Obama administration.
After countless lobbyist dollars from the music and film industry and a brief "public review", the administration rolled out [URL="http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/06/22/releasing-joint-strategic-plan-combat-intellectual-property-theft"]its vision[/URL] to fight piracy yesterday afternoon. U.S. Vice President Joe Biden -- whose blunt speech has sometime [URL="http://www.dailytech.com/VP+Biden+Accidentally+Leaks+Fiskers+New+Lineup/article16675.htm"]left him in trouble[/URL] -- did not mince words.
He [URL="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65L3YN20100622"]states[/URL], "This is theft, clear and simple. It's smash and grab, no different than a guy walking down Fifth Avenue and smashing the window at Tiffany's and reaching in and grabbing what's in the window."[/quote]Doesn't the Obama administration kind of have... A lot of other problems going on?
Obviously this will be as effective as much as closing down Guantanamo Bay, in which he promised to do.:bravo:
Nooooooo. Why, god? WHY?
Obama, you weren't born rich. I am disappointed.
Fuck. This is bad if you're in the US, pirate or not. You know how politicians and the Internet don't mix.
Joe Biden doesn't understand the difference between making a duplicate and stealing the original.
[QUOTE=DireAvenger;22871976]Fuck. This is bad if you're in the US, pirate or not. You know how politicians and the Internet don't mix.[/QUOTE]
American right here :patriot:
I want to fucking move to Europe, this place is full of dumb shits.
Goddamnit, and I thought Obama would be against this. Fucking figures, get someone in that may change this, and they go ahead and do the opposite of what was expected. Fucking shit sucks.
Its stupid that artists don't get to make money from their own product. Don't say "but they're rich already". That doesn't justify theft.
I wish the digital market was like the food market or fashion industry, to be very open and everything/ideas is borrowed/stolen/copied with little or no punishment. Those two make a lot more money being that way
[QUOTE=Pantz76;22872047]Its stupid that artists don't get to make money from their own product. Don't say "but they're rich already". That doesn't justify theft.[/QUOTE]
most artists/bands make more money through tickets and merch. the fraction that they get from record sales is astoundingly low from what i've heard. also, please learn the definition of theft before using it.
My tax dollars go to this, fuck that shit
I do not approve.
Fuck obama
Aren't there more pressing issues at hand other than whiny corporations getting all upset about the death of an obsolete industry?
I don't know, something about a war, or an oil spill? There is also the issue of potential global energy crisis in the future. But no, by all means lets continue to dick around with unimportant shit like this.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;22872227]Aren't there more pressing issues at hand other than whiny corporations getting all upset about the death of an obsolete industry?
I don't know, something about a war, or an oil spill? There is also the issue of potential global energy crisis in the future. But no, by all means lets continue to dick around with unimportant shit like this.[/QUOTE]
Where is the Super Agree™ rating when you need it.
Holy shit, a company is losing money?
Stop the goddamn presses. Who cares about the longest war the US has ever participated in, and has lost of 4000 soldiers to. Or the environmental disaster? No. Fuck that shit. Fucking companies are whining, we must do something!
Agreed, we have worse shit than this bullshit. Yet he is going to slowly take his time to enforce it? Fuck Obama.
[QUOTE=Suttles;22872303]Where is the Super Agree™ rating when you need it.[/QUOTE]
You get bonus points for effort for the ™.
[QUOTE=Zombii;22872328]Holy shit, a company is losing money?
Stop the goddamn presses. Who cares about the longest war the US has ever participated in, and has lost of 4000 soldiers to. Or the environmental disaster? No. Fuck that shit. Fucking companies are whining, we must do something![/QUOTE]
We must be doing something right if this is our longest war, and we've only lost 4,000 people
[quote]This is theft, clear and simple. It's smash and grab, no different than a guy walking down Fifth Avenue and smashing the window at Tiffany's and reaching in and grabbing what's in the window.[/quote]
Every time you pirate something over the internet, a window breaks.
[QUOTE=Suttles;22872303]Where is the Super Agree™ rating when you need it.[/QUOTE]
Right here guvna'
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[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22872431]We must be doing something right if this is our longest war, and we've only lost 4,000 people[/QUOTE]
That is the most stupid statement on facepunch. 4,000 people is STILL 4,000 people.
[QUOTE=Pantz76;22872047]Its stupid that artists don't get to make money from their own product. Don't say "but they're rich already". That doesn't justify theft.[/QUOTE]
1. It's not theft, it's copying.
2. They got fraction of the income from the sold records. Most goes to the worthless companies which publish, who also spew all this piracy shit.
3. Good artists make money by touring.
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;22872630]Every time you pirate something over the internet, a window breaks.[/QUOTE]
Dude, don't you know, the CEOs are starving in their cardboard houses and 50 year old junkers...
Awesomecaek gets it right.
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It IS copyright infringement if the uploader posts it in full without the respective trademark but most of them do post it so
[quote]"This is theft, clear and simple. It's smash and grab, no different than a guy walking down Fifth Avenue and smashing the window at Tiffany's and reaching in and grabbing what's in the window."[/quote]
What an idiot, it's nothing like that at all. You can't 'Steal' Digital information. Even if you hacked into someone's computer, copied a file to your own computer, and deleted their copy, They can STILL recover it. Stealing? No. Copying? Yes. But as long as there's digital content, there will be a way to copy it. End of story. You don't want someone to copy it, don't make it. This is the digital age and Piracy has become cemented within it and you won't root it out no matter what tool you use, and what you do use is just going to break the smooth cement surface everyone walks on and ruin it for everyone
Just deal with your 'Lost sales' Which aren't even lost sales since the majority of these pirates weren't ever going to buy the software in the first place. Trying to put a price tag on sales you've never sold should be criminal
[QUOTE=TheTalon;22872813]What an idiot, it's nothing like that at all. You can't 'Steal' Digital information. Even if you hacked into someone's computer, copied a file to your own computer, and deleted their copy, They can STILL recover it. Stealing? No. Copying? Yes. But as long as there's digital content, there will be a way to copy it. End of story. You don't want someone to copy it, don't make it. This is the digital age and Piracy has become cemented within it and you won't root it out no matter what tool you use, and what you do use is just going to break the smooth cement surface everyone walks on and ruin it for everyone
Just deal with your 'Lost sales' Which aren't even lost sales since the majority of these pirates weren't ever going to buy the software in the first place. Trying to put a price tag on sales you've never sold should be criminal[/QUOTE]
This, pretty much.
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I can understand cracking down on distributors of pirated software, but trying to hunting down every single person who's downloaded pirated things is just idiotic.
Do companies have the right to fight the piracy of their products? Absolutely.
Do they have the right to commission draconian laws and demand extortionate settlements? No.
My issue isn't with what they're doing it's with how they're doing it.
This is ridiculous, sort out the oil spill first.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;22872813]What an idiot, it's nothing like that at all. You can't 'Steal' Digital information. Even if you hacked into someone's computer, copied a file to your own computer, and deleted their copy, They can STILL recover it. Stealing? No. Copying? Yes. But as long as there's digital content, there will be a way to copy it. End of story. You don't want someone to copy it, don't make it. This is the digital age and Piracy has become cemented within it and you won't root it out no matter what tool you use, and what you do use is just going to break the smooth cement surface everyone walks on and ruin it for everyone
Just deal with your 'Lost sales' Which aren't even lost sales since the majority of these pirates weren't ever going to buy the software in the first place. [b]Trying to put a price tag on sales you've never sold should be criminal[/b][/QUOTE]
It is criminal. In fact, they'd be stealing from you, wouldn't they?
[quote]Them: Oh, we didn't sell you this, but we're going to charge you for not buying it.
Us: Isn't that stealing?
Them: Not when we do it!
Us: ...[/quote]
[QUOTE=Gummylamb;22872431]We must be doing something right if this is our longest war, and we've only lost 4,000 people[/QUOTE]
Total excess deaths, (Lancet) – December 2009: 1,366,350
That's just the Iraq War.
So yeah... Not exactly the lowest amount of casualties ever.
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Meh, they haven't proposed legislation yet, I'll hold my outrage until then.
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