Donald Trump press conference: Folders 'containing his business plan' appear to be blank
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[QUOTE]The papers that Donald Trump made the centre of his first press conference in six months actually appear to have been blank.
The conference also appears to have been filled with staff members who were expected to laugh and applaud throughout the event.
The President-elect claimed that the documents, which were placed next to him as he spoke, were evidence of the preparations he had made to give over control of his businesses to his sons. That move has been claimed by Mr Trump and his lawyers as a way of avoiding any conflicts of interest during his time as President, but it hs been criticised as inadequate by the Office of Government Ethics.
Both Mr Trump and his lawyer Sheri Dillon pointed at those documents and claimed they were just part of the various papers required to separate Mr Trump from his business. They each pointed at the pile repeatedly as proof that the preparations were being made.
But [B]reporters were not allowed to look at any of the documents[/B], which all were held in folders meaning that the actual paper was hidden.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-press-conference-folders-business-plan-empire-blank-fake-handover-donald-jr-eric-a7523426.html[/url]
[MEDIA]https://twitter.com/mikeyface/status/819334956027695104[/MEDIA]
Oh I saw this. I'm not convinced by the pictures that it's entirely true, but if it is it's just hilarious.
Until you realise he had 2 months to prepare this...
That's the first thing I thought when he was showing them off tbh.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51660362]Oh I saw this. I'm not convinced by the pictures that it's entirely true, but if it is it's just hilarious.
Until you realise he had 2 months to prepare this...[/QUOTE]
Real legal documents tend to be full of little post-it notes and ways to easily find sections of documents. These just look like blank pieces of paper put into folders. Not to mention, they are apparently A4 sized which isn't what is used in legal documents according to the article.
Side thing, unrelated:
[MEDIA]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819541997325316096[/MEDIA]
Is it appropriate for him to endorse specific products and stuff using his Twitter?
[QUOTE=MissZoey;51660369]Real legal documents tend to be full of little post-it notes and ways to easily find sections of documents. These just look like blank pieces of paper put into folders. Not to mention, they are apparently A4 sized which isn't what is used in legal documents according to the article.[/QUOTE]
Oh yeah right, I forgot about that part.
This is just comedic.
Could just be a large margin size, like many business letters are written in.
I'm reminded of a time I was at a friend's house and his dad was watching glenn beck, beck had stacks of paper that he was 'researching' on his desk and it was VERY clearly just freshly opened reams of paper (your average 500-page packaged thing you pick up from an office supply store), they were stacked very solidly and every page you could see was blank. He even picked up and threw a chunk and still, no ink anywhere
[QUOTE=MissZoey;51660369][MEDIA]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819541997325316096[/MEDIA]
Is it appropriate for him to endorse specific products and stuff using his Twitter?[/QUOTE]
I don't think there's anything wrong with him giving shout outs with his personal twitter, but at the same time it feels awkwardly 'paid endorsement'
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[QUOTE=Sitkero;51660406]
[editline]Hyenas[/editline]
[IMG]http://puu.sh/tk0hX/f6565d7c21.jpg[/IMG]
This looks like paper someone [I]just[/I] tore the plastic wrap off of five minutes ago[/QUOTE]
speak of the devil, that looks about the size of a fresh ream of paper
The pristine look of the folders and the paper in them and the fact that nobody was allowed near them is definitely not helping the impression that someone raided the supply closet twenty minutes before the conference
[editline]Hyenas[/editline]
Like I know it's kind of a fiddly detail to fixate on but those folders look stunningly pristine for something that's presumably been at least passed around an office for a while and don't appear to have any kind of identifying markers and this
[IMG]http://puu.sh/tk0hX/f6565d7c21.jpg[/IMG]
This looks like paper someone [I]just[/I] tore the plastic wrap off of five minutes ago
Analogous to the whole "Walk around with a clipboard and people will think you're doing something important" sort of thing, I guess.
The puppet President has blank props. Take your seats for the main show and please pretend you don't see strings.
Everything is fine. :downs:
Some people actually got some leaks on his business plan. Here's one of the pages further in it.
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Yeah, I was wondering what those stacks of empty paper were meant to present when I saw a few clips of that disaster of a conference.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/AhZ5Oyd.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Mr_Awesome;51660388]Could just be a large margin size, like many business letters are written in.[/QUOTE]
Did you actually bother reading the thread? For example this post:
[QUOTE=MissZoey;51660369]Real legal documents tend to be full of little post-it notes and ways to easily find sections of documents. These just look like blank pieces of paper put into folders. Not to mention, they are apparently A4 sized which isn't what is used in legal documents according to the article.[/QUOTE]
Even using a large margin size the bit about post-its is quite important. You would waste absurd amounts of time trying to find a specific bit without marking them in some way. Post-its or something similar being by far the most common method of doing so in my personal experience. (Which is admittedly not a huge amount but what experience there is would be 100% consistent.)
[QUOTE=MissZoey;51660369]Real legal documents tend to be full of little post-it notes and ways to easily find sections of documents. These just look like blank pieces of paper put into folders. Not to mention, they are apparently A4 sized which isn't what is used in legal documents according to the article.
Side thing, unrelated:
[MEDIA]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819541997325316096[/MEDIA]
Is it appropriate for him to endorse specific products and stuff using his Twitter?[/QUOTE]
Why wouldn't it be? He's big on American business for obvious reasons, why wouldn't he want to endorse an American company? Plus it's his personal twitter.
[QUOTE=MissZoey;51660369]Side thing, unrelated:
[MEDIA]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/819541997325316096[/MEDIA]
Is it appropriate for him to endorse specific products and stuff using his Twitter?[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/01/12/linda-bean-calls-anti-trump-boycotts-un-american-form-bullying.html"]He did that because people are calling for a boycott of L.L. Bean because one of the 50 family members that own it made a donation to a pro-trump PAC.[/URL] Nothing wrong with that in the slightest.
Man he's so smart, using invisible ink like that.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51660456]Why wouldn't it be? He's big on American business for obvious reasons, why wouldn't he want to endorse an American company? Plus it's his personal twitter.[/QUOTE]
Do you need someone to explain to you the massive pitfalls of the incoming US President trading support for commercial promotion on his Twitter?
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51660456]Why wouldn't it be? He's big on American business for obvious reasons, why wouldn't he want to endorse an American company? Plus it's his personal twitter.[/QUOTE]
You don't see how he's overtly endorsing companies that support him?
Kind of like, gee, I don't know, a [I]fucking bribe[/I]?
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51660473]Do you need someone to explain to you the massive pitfalls of the incoming US President trading support for commercial promotion on his Twitter?[/QUOTE]
Except that's not what happened here. There was no quid pro quo.
They are 100% blank, there is no logical reason why you would stack a bunch of folders with paper in them and then refuse to let anyone look at them if you were not trying to pull bullshit.
[QUOTE=ZachPL;51660530]They are 100% blank, there is no logical reason why you would stack a bunch of folders with paper in them and then refuse to let anyone look at them if you were not trying to pull bullshit.[/QUOTE]
Going by GOP logic, if you have nothing to hide, why can't we look at every little detail?
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51660519]You don't see how he's overtly endorsing companies that support him?
Kind of like, gee, I don't know, a [I]fucking bribe[/I]?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51660473]Do you need someone to explain to you the massive pitfalls of the incoming US President trading support for commercial promotion on his Twitter?[/QUOTE]
Do you have proof this is trading commercial support and not just thanking them for their support?
This isn't even pay-for-play, he made a tweet, he didn't give them tax exemption or extra export rights or something along those lines. Something like this is insanely tame for US politics.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51660593]Do you have proof this is trading commercial support[/QUOTE]
The tweet literally has "People will support you even more now. Buy L.L. Bean" in it dude
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51660593]Do you have proof this is trading commercial support and not just thanking them for their support?
This isn't even pay-for-play, he made a tweet, he didn't give them tax exemption or extra export rights or something along those lines. Something like this is insanely tame for US politics.[/QUOTE]
The leader of a country shouldn't be advertising brand names under any circumstance.
You notice how theirs no organizational scheme to those folders too? Like wheres the labels on them your "business plan" isn't just an assortment of random ass unlabeled folders.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;51660597]The tweet literally has "People will support you even more now. Buy L.L. Bean" in it dude[/QUOTE]
Do you know what quid pro quo or pay-for-play is? Because it's neither of these things.
Trump is doing is typical egotistical nonsense, not trading support.
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51660520]Except that's not what happened here. There was no quid pro quo.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;51660593]Do you have proof this is trading commercial support and not just thanking them for their support?
This isn't even pay-for-play, he made a tweet, he didn't give them tax exemption or extra export rights or something along those lines. Something like this is insanely tame for US politics.[/QUOTE]
I invite you both to re-read this:
[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;51660465][URL="http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2017/01/12/linda-bean-calls-anti-trump-boycotts-un-american-form-bullying.html"]He did that because people are calling for a boycott of L.L. Bean because one of the 50 family members that own it made a donation to a pro-trump PAC.[/URL] Nothing wrong with that in the slightest.[/QUOTE]
"Support the company that benefits my benefactors" is [I]nothing wrong[/I]? I think boycotting L.L. Bean because [I]one[/I] family member made a political donation is an immense overreaction, but is anyone really going to claim that there is no ethical concern here?
[QUOTE=Arctic-Zone;51660602]The leader of a country shouldn't be advertising brand names under any circumstance.[/QUOTE]
Thankfully hes not the leader of any country, yet.
It's his personal twitter account, not the POTUS twitter account. Furthermore, he's not advertising them. He's thanking them for their support. You guys are finding controversy where none exists just because it's Trump. I don't support the guy either but come on.
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