Man turns tables on shotgun-wielding attacker [Video included]
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kagO9DXTPWo[/media]
[url]http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/man-turns-tables-shotgun-wielding-attacker-141851442.html[/url]
[quote]A man being robbed at gunpoint at 5 a.m. Saturday morning in New Orleans turned the tables on his attacker when he managed to grab the shotgun, causing the attacker to flee.[/quote]
[QUOTE=sp00ks;40478784]if you have a gun why do you get that close?[/QUOTE]
maybe it was an airsoft gun pew pew
Holy fuck, balls of solid steel. Wrong move, and the gunman could have pulled the trigger on accident from the grab-pull.
[QUOTE=sp00ks;40478784]if you have a gun why do you get that close?[/QUOTE]
~intimidation~
just like in the movies
Robbers aren't really used to being defied like that. Looks like he just took flight when he saw the man grab the weapon
Nope, his balls are not steel.
He has balls of solid [B]diamond.[/B]
[QUOTE=NoDachi;40478935]~intimidation~
just like in the movies[/QUOTE]this guy probably hasn't seen Terminator because he forgot to strap the gun to his arm first
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;40478950]Robbers aren't really used to being defied like that. Looks like he just took flight when he saw the man grab the weapon[/QUOTE]
Pretty much. I'm fairly sure most robbers are wise enough to know not to turn a robbery into a murder unless they damn well have to. Getting caught for armed robbery is, after all, less bad than getting caught for murder; and it's a lower profile police investigation, so less recourses are being put into it.
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"If you're going to point a gun at someone, you better be ready to pull the trigger..."
[QUOTE=Riller;40478915]Holy fuck, balls of solid steel. Wrong move, and the gunman could have pulled the trigger on accident from the grab-pull.[/QUOTE]
He shoved the barrel to the side and then down. If a shot went out, it most probably wouldn't hit him.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;40479050]He shoved the barrel to the side and then down. If a shot went out, it most probably wouldn't hit him.[/QUOTE]
Still gives a splitsecond of it being pointed at face. If the robber was twitchy, it could have gone real ugly.
[QUOTE=Riller;40478915]Holy fuck, balls of solid steel. Wrong move, and the gunman could have pulled the trigger on accident from the grab-pull.[/QUOTE]
It was probably fake/not loaded anyway.
[QUOTE=Riller;40479056]Still gives a splitsecond of it being pointed at face. If the robber was twitchy, it could have gone real ugly.[/QUOTE]
this is the kind of thing that makes me wonder why anyone would try to emulate the movies
times like these, i can only assume the victim was lucky and the gunman was too cocky to worry about needing to react quickly. i mean when the attacker just has to contract like, two muscles in his hand, and you've got to move your arm and hand through the air to grab a weighty object and move it away, both of you relying on human reflex response times, you're gonna have to be lucky to come out of it. i feel like your best bet is the gun being empty or the attacker not ready to fire, which is something i definitely wouldn't choose to rely on.
when people attempt to do stuff like this and they fail, you're not gonna hear about their heroic disarming attempt because you're just gonna hear about how they got shot. when they succeed you get stories like this that don't remind people of the enormous danger of the situation. that discouragement isn't present and i hope people don't read this on yahoo and think they can make it work too.
[QUOTE=Riller;40479056]Still gives a splitsecond of it being pointed at face. If the robber was twitchy, it could have gone real ugly.[/QUOTE]If the dude did nothing it could've gone real ugly too. It's not like he was a generic robber with a knife or a handgun, it was a fucking shotgun pointed at his face. The robber can't be too right in the mind in the first place. There's a high chance you could get shot anyway, so might as well risk it and at least try to disarm him.
[QUOTE=itak365;40479025]"If you're going to point a gun at someone, you better be ready to pull the trigger..."[/QUOTE]
I think it comes down to this. Most thieves aren't prepared to kill, they just want to intimidate you enough so they get what they want. I doubt he even had a finger on the trigger.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;40479447]If the dude did nothing it could've gone real ugly too. It's not like he was a generic robber with a knife or a handgun, it was a fucking shotgun pointed at his face. The robber can't be too right in the mind in the first place. There's a high chance you could get shot anyway, so might as well risk it and at least try to disarm him.[/QUOTE]
I would imagine that not a lot of robbers want to become murderers
[QUOTE=itisjuly;40479447]If the dude did nothing it could've gone real ugly too. It's not like he was a generic robber with a knife or a handgun, it was a fucking shotgun pointed at his face. The robber can't be too right in the mind in the first place. There's a high chance you could get shot anyway, so might as well risk it and at least try to disarm him.[/QUOTE]
definitely not, give him your stuff quietly and let him go. the robber isn't looking to kill random strangers, just take your stuff, so oblige the man on the higher end of the power scale and go on to live another day.
it sucks, but the safest and smartest thing to do is report to the police and avoid the circumstances that placed you in the position to be robbed [regardless of these circumstances being your actions, others, or fate's].
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i seriously don't understand why you people think it's dumb to try and NOT be dead
If I had to guess he was intoxicated if this took place at 5AM on a Saturday. He might not have been thinking correctly about what he was doing. Good thing that robber had no intention of taking a life and just wanted money.
The closer you are to someone when you have a gun, the less time you have to react if they do something.
The further away from the center of mass you aim your gun at a person, the less time you have to react when a person tries to control where you're aiming your weapon.
Combine being close to someone and aiming your gun at their head and you've got a situation where one quick movement of the body and one quick motion of the arms on the part of the victim can be done before you can reasonably react and fire your weapon. On top of you being reluctant to fire in the first place.
It's not ballsy to try and turn the tables on a guy with a gun who does the above, it's ballsy to act in the knowledge that even if you manage to evade the first shot, you still have to overpower a person with a gun.
I love how at the end it looks like he was running after him to club him with the shotgun or something.
[QUOTE=Valdor;40479707]I love how at the end it looks like he was running after him to club him with the shotgun or something.[/QUOTE]
I would. If I had him in the position I would steal his clothes off his back for trying to rob me. Then he would have a walk of shame on the way home... Lost his shotgun and all his clothes on his back.
[QUOTE=Juniez;40479510]I would imagine that not a lot of robbers want to become murderers[/QUOTE]
Of course not.
The last thing a robber wants is any conflict to put them at risk.
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;40479511]definitely not, give him your stuff quietly and let him go. the robber isn't looking to kill random strangers, just take your stuff, so oblige the man on the higher end of the power scale and go on to live another day.
[b]report to the police if it matters, learn from the situation, and avoid repeating whatever landed you alone at dawn in a city with a lot of crime.[/b][/QUOTE]
If you said the same about rape you'd have all of Facepunch flaming you for it. It's not the victim's fault and the police absolutely should be contacted and provided with all the details. You're framing armed robbery as if it's some constant that should just be avoided, and can't be combated by police or by an alert citizen, and that just isn't true.
Now...what did he do with the shotgun?
[QUOTE=Valdor;40479707]I love how at the end it looks like he was running after him to club him with the shotgun or something.[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure writing a report about how someone disarmed a robber and beat him unconscious with the gun would just make the responding officers day.
[QUOTE=catbarf;40479847]If you said the same about rape you'd have all of Facepunch flaming you for it. It's not the victim's fault and the police absolutely should be contacted and provided with all the details. You're framing armed robbery as if it's some constant that should just be avoided, and can't be combated by police or by an alert citizen, and that just isn't true.[/QUOTE]
and you just equated rape and robbery
they can't be compared, i stand by my response, let's not open that can of worms
[QUOTE=DChapsfield;40479364]this is the kind of thing that makes me wonder why anyone would try to emulate the movies
times like these, i can only assume the victim was lucky and the gunman was too cocky to worry about needing to react quickly. i mean when the attacker just has to contract like, two muscles in his hand, and you've got to move your arm and hand through the air to grab a weighty object and move it away, both of you relying on human reflex response times, you're gonna have to be lucky to come out of it. i feel like your best bet is the gun being empty or the attacker not ready to fire, which is something i definitely wouldn't choose to rely on.
when people attempt to do stuff like this and they fail, you're not gonna hear about their heroic disarming attempt because you're just gonna hear about how they got shot. when they succeed you get stories like this that don't remind people of the enormous danger of the situation. that discouragement isn't present and i hope people don't read this on yahoo and think they can make it work too.[/QUOTE]
Uh, movies emulate this (Usually badly) not the other way around. Some martial art teaches how to disarm an attacker and turn the weapon around on em though I forget the name, seen it demonstrated before.
You got around 150ms to grab the end of the gun and direct it away before you get shot, after that time if the attacker is really ready to react you can expect the gun to go off.
Doesn't seem like much time but you're actually at an advantage if a attacker decides to get that close because you've already had time to think about what you're gonna do and the actual action is quicker than the reaction time of the average person, but you'd better have a death grip on that gun. This is of course at extreme close range, if you have to actually advance to grab the gun you won't have enough time and you'll just get shot.
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