Milo Yiannopoulos & Martin Shkreli event canceled at UC Davis after violent protests - Polidicks

[quote]After protests turned violent at UC Davis Friday night, the UC Davis College Republicans Club canceled an event featuring Breitbart commentator Milo Yiannopoulos and shamed pharmaceutical entrepreneur Martin Shkreli. The event was set to begin at 7 pm in a UC Davis auditorium; however, protestors arrived around 6 pm and proceeded to barricade the doors. Some protestors reportedly turned violent and were arrested by campus police. A UC DAVIS police spokesperson said that previous claims of smashed windows and hammers are false. One individual was reportedly arrested inside the building for resisting arrest. Campus security officials held an impromptu security briefing at 6:30 pm. About 30 minutes later, members of the Republicans Club announced by loudspeaker that the event was cancelled. The vice chancellor is expected to make an appearance on the scene. [/quote] [url]http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Yiannopoulos-Shkreli-event-canceled-at-UC-Davis-10857289.php[/url] [url]http://abc7news.com/news/uc-davis-college-republicans-cancel-yiannopoulosshkreli-event-after-protests/1701927/[/url] Some media of the protest: [media]https://twitter.com/ABC10Frances/status/820138640994992129[/media] [media]https://twitter.com/ABC10Frances/status/820110080875982848[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-VwGBRgig[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SANqSEwXW-I[/media]

the insane fuckers in the college republicans club are apparently bringing Milo to our campus. the protests are going to be lit as fuck, that's all I can say [editline]13th January 2017[/editline] being in a city in california it's a bit of a liberal campus

Hope these people are arrested and treated as the criminal trash they are.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;51669026]Hope these people are arrested and treated as the criminal trash they are.[/QUOTE] Are you referring to all of the protesters in general? Because while I agree that people getting violent/rioting goes too far, there isn't really any problem with peaceful agitation so long as they cooperate with law enforcement.

[QUOTE=Duck M.;51669036]Are you referring to all of the protesters in general? Because while I agree that people getting violent/rioting goes too far, there isn't really any problem with peaceful agitation so long as they cooperate with law enforcement.[/QUOTE] No I'm referring to the retards who threw dog shit and poured hot coffee on people and their equipment, cause those things are literally crimes.

[QUOTE=cis.joshb;51669021]the insane fuckers in the college republicans club are apparently bringing Milo to our campus. the protests are going to be lit as fuck, that's all I can say [editline]13th January 2017[/editline] being in a city in california it's a bit of a liberal campus[/QUOTE] Well this was already in California and abit away from the more liberal cities. He already had a crazy time at Berkley. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0obFgSeiQFw[/media] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy6spOAbxhg[/media]

1. Milo says nasty shit and provokes as much as possible. 2. People get angry and protest. 3. Milo plays the victim, 'dindu nothing wrong just freedom of speech against liberal fascists it's just a prank bro'. 4. Repeat, making people angrier each time and provoking even more wild protests. There's no question that violence is wrong but he's intentionally goading people into doing it so he can 'virtue signal' some more. Like those rabid feminists he hates so much who provoke death threats and then display it with the intention of garnering sympathy. Turns out both sides of this stupid 'culture war' have way more in common than they may like to believe.

The sad part is that apparently Martin Shkreli was going to be debating Milo on Feminism. Would have been very interesting to watch. [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6kBz2byHTI[/media] Also people might find this either funny/sad. [media]https://youtu.be/tbNN6q140K0[/media]

[QUOTE=Xubs;51669058]Turns out if you're a disingenuous propagandist who is unwilling to listen to outside influence and shows a complete and total willingness to lie to get whatever you want, people aren't willing to reason with you like a human being in the same way you aren't willing to reason with people like human beings. Funny, how that works. Milo has a chip on his shoulder and he knows it. Nothing he says or does is done in good faith. That doesn't mean you should throw dog crap at them and spray them with hot coffee, but he eggs it on on purpose. He wants to be the victim. He's playing the long hall in the propaganda game and it's as obvious as the sun coming up.[/QUOTE] Funny, I don't think they would have treated someone like Anita Sarkeesian like that even though she fits all your categories. (Let's not pretend this has anything to do with the quality of Milo or Shkreli as people when it has everything to do with authoritarian leftists who don't want people they disagree with to be heard.)

And protests like these are why people with reprehensible views are gaining more momentum. When you try and shit down views altogether by pouring hot coffee on a photographer, you make it look like you're the bad people. UC Davis should take action against those that are proven to have taken violent or otherwise destructive action. You cannot try and shit down events like this because you disagree.

Whatever happened to being a mild-mannered, reasonable individual?

[QUOTE=Xubs;51669111]People did protest Anita, it just wasn't in person because video games are a much smaller subject than the things Milo covers. It's funny [I]you[/I] bring her up, because I would've said the same thing if she got torn down in the same way. But you assume you know me because obviously if I oppose Milo I must love Anita even if I think she's a fucking idiot. Carrying on. The difference between the resurgence of the far right and this "authoritarian left" you attack is that the authoritarian left at best was stupidly malignant. The far right wants to tear down certain institutions and standards that keep society afloat not for political reasons but for money. The things Milo praises day in and day out, and the same things the Republicans are working toward, will undoubtedly cause some level of societal upheaval ranging between uncomfortable for the weakest of society to very bad. People are scared for legitimate reasons. The authoritarian left did nothing but provoke video games and anime. This is not me saying that wasn't stupid, mind you, or praising "the authoritarian left".[/QUOTE] What? I brought up Anita because she's a comparable example on the left. I don't care if you like her or not. I'm simply pointing out how silly it is to talk about these violent protestors as if they care about deception when it's clear that they only care about deception on one side of the spectrum (just like Milo fans only care about it on the other side. With that said, I don't remember violent people on the right attacking speakers on college campuses).

[QUOTE=Tudd;51669074]The sad part is that apparently Martin Shkreli was going to be debating Milo on Feminism. Would have been very interesting to watch.[/QUOTE] Not really sure what two white dudes would have to say about feminism. edit: oh wait I see Shkreli does have reasonable opinions

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51669130]Not really sure what two white dudes would have to say about feminism.[/QUOTE] You don't have to be part of a group to speak up for a group also white men can be feminists too

While Shkreli is a cunt these idiots made themselves look like cunt maestros.

[QUOTE=Xubs;51669111]People did protest Anita, it just wasn't in person because video games are a much smaller subject than the things Milo covers. It's funny [I]you[/I] bring her up, because I would've said the same thing if she got torn down in the same way. But you assume you know me because obviously if I oppose Milo I must love Anita even if I think she's a fucking idiot. Carrying on.[/quote] Anita Sarkeesian simply doesn't get protested at her events. Infact her events have all gone without a hitch except for a bomb threat at USU. [quote] The difference between the resurgence of the far right and this "authoritarian left" you attack is that the authoritarian left at best was stupidly malignant. The far right wants to tear down certain institutions and standards that keep society afloat not for political reasons but for money. The things Milo praises day in and day out, and the same things the Republicans are working toward, will undoubtedly cause some level of societal upheaval. People are scared for legitimate reasons. The authoritarian left did nothing but provoke video games and anime. This is not me saying that wasn't stupid, mind you, or praising "the authoritarian left".[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say "stupidly malignant." You have several instances where they have affected institutions aswell, but mostly in universities and communities. Such as the case with the Yale professors on halloween costumes, Canada's Bill c-16/Jordan Peterson conflict, the more extreme parts of BLM events, Gamergate, and so on.

It just occurred to me that this is the next logical iteration of online trolling. These are literally IRL shitposters, complete with stupid smug attitudes, and the tons of rageposting responsors who fall for the bait. I wish the cops could be like forum moderators and just ban both parties from IRL forever. Man, I don't want to live anymore.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51669130]Not really sure what two white dudes would have to say about feminism. edit: oh wait I see Shkreli does have reasonable opinions[/QUOTE] Well that was a bit racist/sexist right there.

[QUOTE=Xubs;51669139]If you correct me for assuming that you were saying that I don't care about Anita, why are you going out and assuming that these students don't care about Anita either? Who cares about Anita? she's not even relevant at all. Nobody has cared about Anita Sarkeesian in over a year. She's waffled around doing nothing for months. She doesn't give public speeches of any importance at all. Milo on the other hand has been front and center alongside the tribulations that have surrounded the writhing mass that is everything going on in America politically right now, however small he may be. Bringing up Anita is a non-argument.[/QUOTE] You're denying reality. Anita spoke all over the place and was never protested by these kinds of people at any point while speakers on the right have been protested, many times loudly and violently, consistently (this applies to more normal right wing speakers like Ben Shapiro as well) for years.

[QUOTE=Tudd;51669146]Well that was a bit racist/sexist right there.[/QUOTE] identifying a person by race does not make a person racist

[QUOTE=Sonador;51669151]identifying a person by race does not make a person racist[/QUOTE] But invalidating someone's opinion based on their race is.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51669153]But invalidating someone's opinion based on their race is.[/QUOTE] I was more under the impression he was disqualifying them based on sex, which is why I said nothing about sexism, but then again considering the poster I suppose you're probably right. I redact my point

Ben Shapiro even got banned from going to Depaul (which they can do being private, but still stupid) just because they didn't want to deal with the security issues. Which is insane considering how cordial Ben Shapiro is in comparison to Milo. [url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/1/ben-shapiro-banned-from-depaul-university-over-sec/[/url]

[QUOTE=sgman91;51669129]What? I brought up Anita because she's a comparable example on the left. I don't care if you like her or not. I'm simply pointing out how silly it is to talk about these violent protestors as if they care about deception when it's clear that they only care about deception on one side of the spectrum (just like Milo fans only care about it on the other side. With that said, I don't remember violent people on the right attacking speakers on college campuses).[/QUOTE] Anita Sarc isn't left, shes fucking mental.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51669153]But invalidating someone's opinion based on their race is.[/QUOTE] Correct. There are plenty of male feminists. Ofcourse, I personally would rather be called egalitarian. Feminism has been co-opted by some crazier elements.

[QUOTE=Xubs;51669158]And I'm saying that people feel threatened by these people and that's why they're protesting them. Nobody protests Anita Sarkeesian because she's not on the side of the isle that wants to repeal the lifeline that keeps many poor Americans alive, among many other things. It's exactly why it's a non-argument, moderation doesn't just spontaneously exist between both parties and both sides are making political moves that threaten both angles in equal ways. There is an unequal balance between the ramifications of the opinions that one of these parties uphold versus the other. Just because Anita is from the far left doesn't mean she's "as bad" as Milo. You're bringing her up to bring some kind of moderation to the idea that Milo is bad. Milo is bad, ergo Anita is bad too because she's "just as far left" as Milo is far right, and yet leftists aren't protesting her. No, they aren't protesting her because she's not as horrible of a person.[/QUOTE] Yes, they don't protest Anita because they agree with her politics... that's my entire point. They don't care about honesty, intellectual arguments, etc. They care about whether they agree with your conclusions. Anita is a dishonest fraud who was loved and embraced by academia because they liked her conclusions.

TBH I'm kinda getting tired about how "news" talk about the vocal minorities. stop trying to stir shit up for money you shits

[QUOTE=Tudd;51669156]Ben Shapiro even got banned from going to Depaul (which they can do being private, but still stupid) just because they didn't want to deal with the security issues. Which is insane considering how cordial Ben Shapiro is in comparison to Milo. [url]http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/1/ben-shapiro-banned-from-depaul-university-over-sec/[/url][/QUOTE] Part of that is because when Milo came to DePaul there was a pretty big protest that lead to the whole campus being shut down with a couple students arrested, if I remember correctly.

[QUOTE=sgman91;51669089]Funny, I don't think they would have treated someone like Anita Sarkeesian like that even though she fits all your categories.[/quote] I will applaud you for doing an amazing job on speaking for someone else. Additionally, I would like to do it again for comparing Sarkeesian to Yiannopoulos, not only is this a good case of whataboutism, Sarkeesian is not on the same level as Milo. There is a strange sentiment that Sarkeesian says what she does for no reason than to rile people up, but this isn't really true. All she is doing is applying her ideas of feminism for critiques into video game writing and culture, and while her views are seen as extreme to many, that doesn't mean she doesn't believe what she says. Milo has continually and self-admittedly said the kind of stuff he has to rile people up. There is even an article by him explaining that he came out as gay to try and provoke his parents. He knows exactly what he is doing. He even switches sides to do it, as evidenced by his not-so-good opinion on gamers before Gamergate happened. [quote](Let's not pretend this has anything to do with the quality of Milo or Shkreli as people when it has everything to do with authoritarian leftists who don't want people they disagree with to be heard.)[/QUOTE] "Let's not pretend", another round of applause for assuming your argument is the obvious correct one, then not actually doing anything to justify it. Remember that the right to free speech gives you the right to say what you want, not to give you free venues with which to do it. These "authoritarian leftists" (lol) are well within their rights to protest people like Milo and Shrekli. They have heard what those two have to say, found it wanting, and are now using their own freedom of speech to tell them that they aren't welcome.

[QUOTE=Xubs;51669173]And what exactly does that say to the idea that Milo is bad? People agree with Anita, so......................... they agree with her? Who the fuck cares if they agree with her? What, does that mean Milo is somehow better, or that what Milo says is less extreme? Your logic is paper thin and so incredibly obvious that is ceases to serve any actual purpose. It's a thinly veiled attempt at trying to compare two things that don't cancel each other out.[/QUOTE] You said: "Turns out if you're a disingenuous propagandist who is unwilling to listen to outside influence and shows a complete and total willingness to lie to get whatever you want, people aren't willing to reason with you like a human being in the same way you aren't willing to reason with people like human beings. Funny, how that works." I pointed out how that was utterly false. These people are fine accepting and giving awards to disingenuous propagandists as long as they agree with the conclusion.