• Shocking Result of Labour leadership election: Corbyn wins
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[QUOTE]Jeremy Corbyn has been re-elected as Labour leader, comfortably defeating his challenger Owen Smith. Mr Corbyn won 61.8% of the total vote, a larger margin of victory than last year. He vowed to bring the party back together and "make Labour the engine of progress for our country", insisting the party could win the next election. More than half a million party members, trade unionists and registered supporters voted in the contest. In a result announced on the eve of Labour's party conference in Liverpool, Mr Corbyn won 313,209 votes, compared with Mr Smith's 193,229.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37461219[/url]
They would have been and will be irrelevant with both choices anyways
9 years of Tories ahoy. Not that Owen Smith was much better.
Pro- and anti-Corbyn people direly need to work together, or else the party's finished (at least until a new Blair (in terms of party unity, not necessarily policies) comes along).
Thanks Labour for guaranteeing the Conservatives win the next election.
Can we have a clip of Labours MPs sitting in the room reactions? I want to see their face so badly.
If those chucklefucks stop openly fighting each other and form an actual opposition things will go better for them.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;51098408]If those chucklefucks stop openly fighting each other and form an actual opposition things will go better for them.[/QUOTE] But they need a leader who can actually be voted for
Comrade Corbyn with the clutch
[QUOTE=Mallow234;51098410]But they need a leader who can actually be voted for[/QUOTE] Maybe if they actually stood behind a leader who their party members voted for, the general public outside the labour party would be more inclined to vote for them. It's fucking disgraceful and childish how the internals of the labour party have acted since the EU referendum. If the Labour party don't get elected in next GE, then all of its MPs will blame corbyn, but in reality they have no one to blame but themselves. Some of the MPs claiming be hasn't don't enough and trying oust for the outcome did literally nothing for remain in the EU vote.
[QUOTE=icemaz;51098422]Maybe if they actually stood behind a leader who their party members voted for, the general public outside the labour party would be more inclined to vote for them. It's fucking disgraceful and childish how the internals of the labour party have acted since the EU referendum. If the Labour party don't get elected in next GE, then all of its MPs will blame corbyn, but in reality they have no one to blame but themselves. Some of the MPs claiming be hasn't don't enough and trying oust for the outcome did literally nothing for remain in the EU vote.[/QUOTE] So what, the public should just support the choice because the party voted for him? No thanks, that's not how it works. [editline]24th September 2016[/editline] Corbyn will lose the next election purely on his own merit.
[QUOTE=icemaz;51098422]Maybe if they actually stood behind a leader who their party members voted for, the general public outside the labour party would be more inclined to vote for them. It's fucking disgraceful and childish how the internals of the labour party have acted since the EU referendum. If the Labour party don't get elected in next GE, then all of its MPs will blame corbyn, but in reality they have no one to blame but themselves. Some of the MPs claiming be hasn't don't enough and trying oust for the outcome did literally nothing for remain in the EU vote.[/QUOTE] I hope you know theres probably a cabinet (or several) somewhere with a load of dumb shit Corbyn has said before. He is going to get destroyed in 2020
It's important to note that he actually received both a higher percentage of the vote and a higher number of votes overall.
[QUOTE=download;51098428]So what, the public should just support the choice because the party voted for him? No thanks, that's not how it works. [editline]24th September 2016[/editline] Corbyn will lose the next election purely on his own merit.[/QUOTE] No but they should stop quibbling, and at least try for the next 4 years to form a strong party which has its act together. They have literally given the next election to the Tories as a whole party, regardless of whether or Corbyn won or not. I'm a labour party member and if there was an election tomorrow, I wouldn't vote for them because I would at least want the party to be stable as an organisation before I let them run the country.
I look forward to the UK becoming a one party state!
We really have not gotten a chance to see Corbyn perform behind a unified party. They started snapping at his heels as soon as he won a year ago. Right before Brexit, he was polling decently (not enough to win, but still decently). The coup is why Labour's numbers are so low. I'm not saying Corbyn will easily win, I'm saying that it's still possible if the party actually works together for once.
Labour isn't losing because of Corbyn, it's because the voter doesn't have the confidence in the party because everybody is all over the shop. If you show a scrambled party, you're going to be less appealing to a lot It happened with our Labor party in Australia, they were scrambled, then last election they didn't win but they made the Government only get the bar minimum to a majority which shows how much a party can perform when everyone is working together, not against
[QUOTE=Complifusedv2;51098442]I hope you know theres probably a cabinet (or several) somewhere with a load of dumb shit Corbyn has said before. He is going to get destroyed in 2020[/QUOTE] how much of it is taken out of context?
[QUOTE=icemaz;51098422]Maybe if they actually stood behind a leader who their party members voted for, the general public outside the labour party would be more inclined to vote for them. It's fucking disgraceful and childish how the internals of the labour party have acted since the EU referendum. If the Labour party don't get elected in next GE, then all of its MPs will blame corbyn, but in reality they have no one to blame but themselves. Some of the MPs claiming be hasn't don't enough and trying oust for the outcome did literally nothing for remain in the EU vote.[/QUOTE] A leader that can't unite and rally his own party doesn't seem like much of a leader. What exactly is he leading?
[QUOTE=Morgen;51098627]A leader that can't unite and rally his own party doesn't seem like much of a leader. What exactly is he leading?[/QUOTE] A bunch of little children, by the looks of things. They can't accept that someone with different opinions is their leader, so the MPs are all kicking off.
This reminds me of something similar in history with Michael Foot. [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot[/url] The press and to some degree on TV, not so much media then, pretty much persuaded the public how to feel about him.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;51098662]This reminds me of something similar in history with Michael Foot. [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot[/url] The press and to some degree on TV, not so much media then, pretty much persuaded the public how to feel about him.[/QUOTE] except there was a long period of time where michael foot was the favourite. jeremy has never polled above may or cameron bring on 2020 where we can get rid of corbyn and instate god chuka umunna
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;51098662]This reminds me of something similar in history with Michael Foot. [url]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Foot[/url] The press and to some degree on TV, not so much media then, pretty much persuaded the public how to feel about him.[/QUOTE] History suggests that Foot would have won were it not for the Sdp split and possibly the Falklands war
Britain is a centre-right country. The far-left will never win here.
TIME TO PURGE BLAIRITES RED TORIES GET OUT
Welp, so much for having a reasonable lefty option at the next election [editline]24th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=FlashMarsh;51098778]Britain is a centre-right country. The far-left will never win here.[/QUOTE] We are less centre right and more centrist swinging between centre right and left generally. We could do with some centre left to offset the things the Tory party has done to welfare and the NHS but we don't have a centre left option except the :sick: lib Dems.
[QUOTE=NeonpieDFTBA;51099064]Welp, so much for having a reasonable lefty option at the next election [editline]24th September 2016[/editline] We are less centre right and more centrist swinging between centre right and left generally. We could do with some centre left to offset the things the Tory party has done to welfare and the NHS but we don't have a centre left option except the :sick: lib Dems.[/QUOTE] [url]http://opinium.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Dead-Centre-British-politics4_lr.pdf[/url] [url]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/10/immigration-divides-left-unites-right-two-tribes[/url] You may be interested in these. Basically the conclusion is that the natural centre-right vastly outnumber the natural centre-left in Britain
I have to wonder if left leaning parties are being distorted by small online groups of very left individuals which they mistake for the majority.
[QUOTE=download;51099137]I have to wonder if left leaning parties are being distorted by small online groups of very left individuals which they mistake for the majority.[/QUOTE] Yes, the internet spooky socialist menace made Corbyn win. [editline]24th September 2016[/editline] We've been found out!
[QUOTE=download;51099137]I have to wonder if left leaning parties are being distorted by small online groups of very left individuals which they mistake for the majority.[/QUOTE] [t]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtIP7tLXgAA8zuI.jpg:large [/t] No. Please let this retarded myth that only young college guys support Corbyn die already. As for my opinion on this, I live in Corb's constituency and I think he's done a pretty good job so obviously my opinion will be biased, but I do believe the man means well and he at least stands by what he believes in. I think his foreign policy is pretty fucking shite though (to put it lightly). Owen just seems like a complete idiot with no principles.
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