Anti-incumbent attitudes are more inflamed now than they have been in 19 years - Polidicks

[QUOTE]According to a Gallup poll released Friday, more than three quarters of registered voters say most members of Congress deserve to lose their jobs–the highest number since 1993, the year before the political climate resulted in a Republican "tsunami." That wave unseated 40 years of Democratic control of the House of Representatives and installed Newt Gingrich, now a GOP presidential candidate, as speaker of the House. But today, 76 percent of voters said most members of Congress do not deserve to be re-elected, the highest percentage Gallup measured in 19 years of asking that question. And the 20% who say congressional members should be re-elected is a record low-one point below the previous low recorded in August. Roughly eight in 10 independents said members don't deserve to keep their jobs–more than Republicans at 75% and Democrats at 68%–but the small margins between the three groups reveals agreement among political parties against incumbent congressmen. And though most say members don't deserve to be re-elected, more than half don't want their own member to be voted out of Congress. Fifty-three percent say their own representative deserves to be re-elected and almost four in 10 say their congressman does not. The midterm elections of 2010 resulted in a 63-seat turnover from Democratic to Republican and handed control of the House to the GOP. At that time, voters were less negative than they are now. As Democrats battle to regain control of the House of Representatives and keep control of the Senate, anti-incumbent attitudes could work for or against them. The Gallup poll was conducted by telephone among 908 registered voters from Nov. 28-Dec. 1. It has a sampling error of plus or minus four percentage points.[/QUOTE] Source: [url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/09/poll-voters-want-to-throw-em-out/?hpt=hp_t1[/url] About time. The republic NEEDS congressional term limits. The president has one, why not the House and Senate? Rate winner if you agree :v:

Ohhh SNAP. Maybe the daft old geezers finally realizes they're fucking shit up and should step down.

The opposit of progress? [sp]congress[/sp]

[QUOTE=Van-man;33644562]Ohhh SNAP. Maybe the daft old geezers finally realizes they're fucking shit up and should step down.[/QUOTE] They have $100k+ jobs. Why would you leave that kind of money even if you're screwing up your job :v:

I agree, about time. Hopefully something gets done with this, it's nice to see some good (albeit small) news with all the SOPA/PIPA shit going down.

Everybody wants everyone ELSE'S incumbent to lose their jobs, not their own. That's why Congress keeps getting reelected, people are often fine with their own representatives, and incumbents build up massive war chests and prestigious committee positions to discourage opposition. As much as I may love people like Barney Frank, having a 30+ year career in Congress is insane. The people screwing us now are often the EXACT SAME people that were screwing us during the Bushes or Reagan.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;33644624]They have $100k+ jobs. Why would you leave that kind of money even if you're screwing up your job :v:[/QUOTE] Well, most, if not all members of congress are extremely educated. Congress doesn't pay nearly as much as they could be making. So they're actually pretty much taking a pay cut by being in congress. I honestly don't have much of an issue with their salaries. Now, lobbyists giving them money is a different story... I'm just wondering whatever happened to moderate republicans. Nixon founded the Environmental Protection Agency for christ's sake

[QUOTE=cat man;33647430]Well, most, if not all members of congress are extremely educated. Congress doesn't pay nearly as much as they could be making. So they're actually pretty much taking a pay cut by being in congress. I honestly don't have much of an issue with their salaries. Now, lobbyists giving them money is a different story... I'm just wondering whatever happened to moderate republicans. Nixon founded the Environmental Protection Agency for christ's sake[/QUOTE] The moderate republicans are still here, just not very popular these days (See: Jon Huntsman)

[QUOTE=cat man;33647430]Well, most, if not all members of congress are extremely educated. Congress doesn't pay nearly as much as they could be making. So they're actually pretty much taking a pay cut by being in congress. I honestly don't have much of an issue with their salaries. Now, lobbyists giving them money is a different story... I'm just wondering whatever happened to moderate republicans. Nixon founded the Environmental Protection Agency for christ's sake[/QUOTE] Most, if not all, are not congressman as a full time job.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;33644624]They have $100k+ jobs. Why would you leave that kind of money even if you're screwing up your job :v:[/QUOTE] You don't go to political office for the money. You dump vastly more than 100k into a political campaign. You go for the power. These people wouldn't be hurting if they all lost their salaries, though I'm sure their shitstorm would cause the country to breakdown.

[QUOTE=cat man;33647430]Well, most, if not all members of congress are extremely educated. Congress doesn't pay nearly as much as they could be making. So they're actually pretty much taking a pay cut by being in congress. I honestly don't have much of an issue with their salaries. Now, lobbyists giving them money is a different story... I'm just wondering whatever happened to moderate republicans. Nixon founded the Environmental Protection Agency for christ's sake[/QUOTE] But people with regular jobs actually get fired when they fuck up as badly as congress has.

[QUOTE=Tigster;33650660]But people with regular jobs actually get fired when they fuck up as badly as congress has.[/QUOTE] In the public sector? Not likely.

[QUOTE=Regulas021;33650640]You don't go to political office for the money.[/QUOTE] Maybe not money from the government, but corporations are more than happy to throw money at them.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;33650731]Maybe not money from the government, but corporations are more than happy to throw money at them.[/QUOTE] You don't [I]get[/I] into political office without already having lots of money.

[QUOTE=Contag;33650754]You don't [I]get[/I] into political office without already having lots of money.[/QUOTE] also true

[QUOTE=Contag;33650754]You don't [I]get[/I] into political office without already having lots of money.[/QUOTE] That is not entirely true

[QUOTE=HolyCrusade;33650771]That is not entirely true[/QUOTE] Yes it is. Being a candidate doesn't pay by itself, all these people you see are essentially unemployed. Running for office requires a massive upfront investment and the ability to support yourself for months at a time without a full-time job. Only a small slice of rich Americans even have enough money to exist without income for that amount of time. Poor people can't even afford to RUN for political office, let alone win.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;33650731]Maybe not money from the government, but corporations are more than happy to throw money at them.[/QUOTE] That's power, and compared to the favors these men receive from everyone in their congressional district, the money lobbyists throw at them is a drop in the bucket. There's a reason you don't often see congress mans sons and daughters in the spotlight for offenses. DUI? It'll be taken care of, son. Failing Grades? Re-evaluate the curriculum. Shoplifting? Let's make a deal. It's all a joke, of course, but not really a money based one.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;33644624]They have $100k+ jobs. Why would you leave that kind of money even if you're screwing up your job :v:[/QUOTE] If only. Those people make millions in donations from special interests. That's why the "Take the money out of politics" movement scares the corporations so much, because when a congressman no longer requires millions of dollars to run for office, they have no reason to take outsider money other than pure bribery. I've always said that the reason the Republicans vote in lock step is because they know full well that disagreeing with the party will mean being primary'd out in the next election, the money elite will throw everything to put some moron in with no ideas of his own but a big fat wallet.

[QUOTE=cat man;33647430]Well, most, if not all members of congress are extremely educated. Congress doesn't pay nearly as much as they could be making. So they're actually pretty much taking a pay cut by being in congress.[/QUOTE] Untrue. Most of them have no real private sector qualifications because their degrees are diploma-mill grade and their work experience is cronyist shit at best. Their lives are one-way roads to being a professional politician. Once you're there, you're there, unless you have a buddy willing to pay you handsomely to do fuck all somewhere as a consultant or you have enough morons that like you to make a career of lectures and shitty books.

I believe I posted an article on insider trading with Congress a few days ago.

[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;33644779] As much as I may love people like [B]Barney Frank[/B], having a 30+ year career in Congress is insane. The people screwing us now are often the EXACT SAME people that were screwing us during the Bushes or Reagan.[/QUOTE] It's a shame he's just about the only incumbent not going for reelection.

I wonder, if these jobs weren't as profitable if people that honestly wanted to improve America would step up. Then again, corporations would fund them in their favor regardless of what amount salary they make.