200 Missouri High Schoolers Walk Out Because Trans Student Wants to Use Girls’ Bathroom
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[QUOTE]High school students in Hillsboro, Missouri targeted a trans senior in a protest on Monday, opposing her push to use the girls’ locker room in gym class, KMOV-TV reported.
“There’s a lot of ignorance,” Hillsboro High senior Lila Perry said of the demonstration. “They are claiming that they’re uncomfortable. I don’t believe for a second that they are. I think this is pure and simple bigotry.”
Nearly 200 students walked off-campus for about two hours as part of the protest before returning to class. Another 30 to 40 held their own gathering in support of Perry, who has identified as a girl since she was 13 but only publicly revealed her gender identity last year. She also told officials she did not want to use a unisex faculty restroom, but wanted to be allowed to use the girls’ locker room and restrooms.
“I wasn’t hurting anyone and I didn’t want to feel segregated out,” Perry said. “I didn’t want to be in the gender neutral bathroom. I am a girl. I shouldn’t be pushed off to another bathroom.”
According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Perry was “locked” in Principal Cathy Freeman’s office during the protest to ensure her safety. A local man, identified as 47-year-old Jeff Childs, was asked to leave campus after the demonstration when he drove onto the school parking lot with the phrase “girls lives matter” painted on his pickup truck.
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Main Source: [url]http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/simple-bigotry-missouri-high-schoolers-walk-out-because-trans-student-wants-to-use-girls-bathroom/[/url]
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[url]http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/9/1/transgender-students-locker-room-use-draws-protest.html[/url]
[url]http://www.kmov.com/story/29926467/hillsboro-high-school-students-stage-walkout-in-dispute-over-transgender-student[/url]
[quote]Missouri[/quote]
yep
It's disheartening to see people holding hands and walking in the opposite direction of progress.
[QUOTE] “They are claiming that they’re uncomfortable. I don’t believe for a second that they are. I think this is pure and simple bigotry.”[/QUOTE]
That's just being ignorant.
200 high schoolers walk out, everyone else shrugs and moves on
[QUOTE=kikomia;48601572]That's just being ignorant.[/QUOTE]
Isn't it mandatory to call ignorance and bigotry any time there's something negative related to trans persons?
[QUOTE=itisjuly;48601577]Isn't it mandatory to call ignorance and bigotry any time there's something negative related to trans persons?[/QUOTE]
I'm just saying that the fact that they're uncomfortable with it doesn't necessarily make them bigots.
I don't think it's fair to say that they aren't legitimately uncomfortable...while they kind of have to just suck it up and fucking deal with it, saying that they're not legitimately uncomfortable and are purely 100% just bigoted is kind of stupid.
[QUOTE=Judas;48601531]yep[/QUOTE]
I'd say that would make sense in south-east Missouri, but this is only one county away from me, and as far as I'm aware people in this area seem to be rather tolerant when it comes to this stuff.
[QUOTE=Limed00d;48601576]200 high schoolers walk out, everyone else shrugs and moves on[/QUOTE]
more like 20 walked out, 180 followed to get out of classes
[QUOTE=Sableye;48601641]more like 20 walked out, 180 followed to get out of classes[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's always what people need to take with a grain of salt in terms of High-School walkouts in the US.
How many of them are just like "Welp crowd's going, that means no pre-calc, I'm outie"
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48601653]Yeah that's always what people need to take with a grain of salt in terms of High-School walkouts in the US.
How many of them are just like "Welp crowd's going, that means no pre-calc, I'm outie"[/QUOTE]
Ya my school in Ohio always had trouble getting people to even come in from fire drills, someone always tried to walk off then everybody would watch as the cops drove them back to the school
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[QUOTE]but only publicly revealed her gender identity last year.[/QUOTE]
People knew Perry as a male for possibly up to twelve or so years. As far as the picture shows, Perry still pretty much looks entirely masculine, minus the outgrown hair. The protest is nothing but bullying, but I emphasize with people simply uncomfortable with the idea of someone that's really not yet transitioned using the same locker rooms.
I'm 100% for Lila-- hopefully, the transition will work out well for her, and she'll be able to live a normal life. However, an untransitioned person using the same showers as people of the opposite sex? Shit, I'd feel uncomfortable with that as well. Locker rooms and showers should be based on sex, not gender.
I'm sorry but I don't agree that just because you feel like you're a different gender, you get to go into private places.
How about I decide that I'm a female.... But I th I'll only feel female when I'm at a woman's volley ball game and go ahead and use their locker room. Since I "feel" I'm a female, it's all cool right?
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[QUOTE=geel9;48601586]I don't think it's fair to say that they aren't legitimately uncomfortable...while they kind of have to just suck it up and fucking deal with it, saying that they're not legitimately uncomfortable and are purely 100% just bigoted is kind of stupid.[/QUOTE]
This a strange ethical situation. One student feels unconfortable in the changing room they are sent to, and so they ask to be sent to the other changing room. This causes all the people in the other changing room to feel uncomfortable. Either side can just tell the other side to suck it up, but from a purely utilitarian point of view, the trans student has less of an argument.
[QUOTE=D0C H.;48601690]I'm sorry but I don't agree that just because you feel like you're a different gender, you get to go into private places.
How about I decide that I'm a female.... But I th I'll only feel female when I'm at a woman's volley ball game and go ahead and use their locker room. Since I "feel" I'm a female, it's all cool right?[/QUOTE]
Since when did Mike Huckabee get a facepunch account?
[quote] A local man, identified as 47-year-old Jeff Childs, was asked to leave campus after the demonstration when he drove onto the school parking lot with the [B]phrase “girls lives matter” painted on his pickup truck.[/B][/quote]
I'm honestly not sure what this means. Is he against Perry, is he for her?
[QUOTE=Levelog;48601721]I'm honestly not sure what this means. Is he against Perry, is he for her?[/QUOTE]
I think he is against Perry, saying she endangers the lives of the other girls.
I hope they know they're on the wrong side of history.
[QUOTE=D0C H.;48601690]I'm sorry but I don't agree that just because you feel like you're a different gender, you get to go into private places.
How about I decide that I'm a female.... But I th I'll only feel female when I'm at a woman's volley ball game and go ahead and use their locker room. Since I "feel" I'm a female, it's all cool right?[/QUOTE]
That's not how it works
[QUOTE=tempunary;48601780]I hope they know they're on the wrong side of history.[/QUOTE]
I've never understood how this phrase is meaningful at all. Just because one side wins over time doesn't make them right. Many times throughout history humanity has gotten worse.
I'm not even talking about this issue specifically. That phrase just seems really common while also being really dumb.
I don't see how. Male feels female. That's the bare-bones of it. So they decide that the rest of the world has to agree? Well ive decided I'm president. The rest of the world must agree or it's discrimination!
Look, personally, I don't care what someone is attracted to. It's their own choice and I wish everybody would just shut up and let people make their own personal choices for their own life.
It's when someone forces others to agree and change their lives is when it gets wrong. Whether the person doing that is trans, gay, Christian, whatever. No one has to agree with someone else. Modern society for some reason thinks that their opinions have to matter. They don't. No one's does, not even mine.
This is why gender neutral bathrooms should be more of a thing. Gender is already a stupid social construct, and a tool for bigots to enforce their repressive viewpoints on the rest of the world.
[QUOTE=splenda;48601853]This is why gender neutral bathrooms should be more of a thing. Gender is already a stupid social construct, and a tool for bigots to enforce their repressive viewpoints on the rest of the world.[/QUOTE]
“I didn’t want to be in the gender neutral bathroom. I am a girl. I shouldn’t be pushed off to another bathroom.”
Sounds like the school already has some gender neutral bathrooms and they didn't want to use them.
[QUOTE=D0C H.;48601836]I don't see how. Male feels female. That's the bare-bones of it. So they decide that the rest of the world has to agree? Well ive decided I'm president. The rest of the world must agree or it's discrimination!
Look, personally, I don't care what someone is attracted to. It's their own choice and I wish everybody would just shut up and let people make their own personal choices for their own life.
It's when someone forces others to agree and change their lives is when it gets wrong. Whether the person doing that is trans, gay, Christian, whatever. No one has to agree with someone else. Modern society for some reason thinks that their opinions have to matter. They don't. No one's does, not even mine.[/QUOTE]
If your opinions don't matter than why should people have to stick with their genders they were born with just to make you satisfied? People want to live the way they feel, an aspect cis born and felt people cannot really grasp but from personal experience it just leaves the third gendered individual feeling out of place all the time and uncomfortable using things for the gender they were born with. Imagine if I forced you to use a women's bathroom, that is how these people feel constantly.
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[QUOTE=sgman91;48601861]“I didn’t want to be in the gender neutral bathroom. I am a girl. I shouldn’t be pushed off to another bathroom.”
Sounds like the school already has some gender neutral bathrooms and they didn't want to use them.[/QUOTE]
Shit should of read the whole thing then, sorry. :v: but my opinion about gender being a social construct still stands and if we didn't section people off like we do these problems wouldn't be a thing.
You missed what I said. I said I don't care how people feel. No one but me has to satisfy me. It's only wrong when opinions, from either side, get forced. Forcing women to share a restroom with someone they see as male is wrong.
As you said. Gender neutral bathrooms would solve it! At least it should. If they still cause a ruckus after that, they're just being picky.
[QUOTE=D0C H.;48601897]You missed what I said. I said I don't care how people feel. No one but me has to satisfy me. It's only wrong when opinions, from either side, get forced. Forcing women to share a restroom with someone they see as male is wrong.
As you said. Gender neutral bathrooms would solve it! At least it should. If they still cause a ruckus after that, they're just being picky.[/QUOTE]
Why should someone who sees them self as a female be forced into using a men's restroom?
[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;48601550]It's disheartening to see people holding hands and walking in the opposite direction of progress.[/QUOTE]
Progress, right.
People don't approve of a man wanting to have access to a female bathroom, this is somehow a bad thing?
It doesn't matter that this person believes themselves female. I could believe myself the King of England, should this grant me the right to live in Buckingham Palace?
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[QUOTE=Levelog;48601933]Why should someone who sees them self as a female be forced into using a men's restroom?[/QUOTE]
I see myself as president, so why don't people let me run the country?
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[QUOTE=Lium;48601938]Progress, right.
People don't approve of a man wanting to have access to a female bathroom, this is somehow a bad thing?
It doesn't matter that this person believes themselves female. I could believe myself the King of England, should this grant me the right to live in Buckingham Palace?[/QUOTE]
Exactly!
Where's the Washington restroom? I personally identify myself as George Washington, you know.
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