Army kicking out decorated Green Beret who stood up for Afghan rape victim - Polidicks

Source: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/20/army-kicking-out-decorated-green-beret-who-stood-up-for-afghan-rape-victim/?intcmp=hpbt1[/url] [quote] The U.S. Army is kicking out a decorated Green Beret after an 11-year Special Forces career, after he got in trouble for shoving an Afghan police commander accused of raping a boy and beating up his mother when she reported the incident. [/quote]

Oh boy not shoving how dare he

wow weird how politics works out huh

What a monster, shoving a child rapist, life imprisonment.

Hey, that's my representative! What is it with the local security forces we train and their inability to not rape people? Are we picking the wrong people? Are we going out of our way to choose rapists?

"Foxnews" There's probably more to this. It seems he probably did more than "shove" the officer, and went and roughed him up on his own accord. So was he in the wrong? Probably not, but the man still needs to be put through a trial before any action is taken, and the army was looking to do that. Regardless, I think being entirely kicked out and the situation is kind of fucked regardless.

[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;48503442]What is it with the local security forces we train and their inability to not rape people? Are we picking the wrong people? Are we going out of our way to choose rapists?[/QUOTE] I've been told it's a mix of culture and corruption. Something about sex with women being forbidden but a loophole where sex with young boys or animals isn't specifically mentioned. That combined with the fact that it's just a very corrupt place full of terrible people, and you get drug-dealing child-raping police who act more like a state-sponsored criminal gang than law enforcement.

Afghani's have the distinct inability to govern their own shit without fucking everything up.

[QUOTE=DiBBs27;48503529]Afghani's have the distinct inability to govern their own shit without fucking everything up.[/QUOTE] isn't the country mostly made up of a huge variety of different rural tribes, with their own set of customs and such?

[QUOTE=Levithan;48503544]isn't the country mostly made up of a huge variety of different rural tribes, with their own set of customs and such?[/QUOTE] Yes, and most importantly of all they all want to fucking kill each other. That whole region is just one big shitshow.

Fucking idiots. I hate it when institutions compromise their values to satisfy politics.

Foxnews holy shit I didn't think anyone in SH used them as a "source" :v:

[QUOTE=ghghop;48504206]Foxnews holy shit I didn't think anyone in SH used them as a "source" :v:[/QUOTE] They're not actually that bad.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48504209]They're not actually that bad.[/QUOTE] They aren't really credible enough for a story like this though. LIke Mobon1 said, take it with a whole salt shaker

[QUOTE=ghghop;48504226]They aren't really credible enough for a story like this though. LIke Mobon1 said, take it with a whole salt shaker[/QUOTE] They're not quoting bullshit man.

Just because he's decorated doesn't mean he's immune to being kicked out. Something tells me there's a lot of under the table things going with this soldier and who ever is trying to rid him

It's probably a mixture of cover up and practicality. Cover up because we trained the guy and gave him power. The last thing our military wants is investigations into sexual abuse by our forces or allied forces. If that sexual abuse is on children it only makes it less likely the military wants anyone to make waves about it. Practicality because that guy was one of ours. Not everyone in Afghanistan is on our side, if we start turning on our supporters then who will support us? Do we even have an Afghan police commander we can replace him with? That's the question the military leadership there would be asking. At no time is the victim or the victim's family a primary concern for the military, there's no point pretending that's how it works.

[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;48504476]It's probably a mixture of cover up and practicality. Cover up because we trained the guy and gave him power. The last thing our military wants is investigations into sexual abuse by our forces or allied forces. If that sexual abuse is on children it only makes it less likely the military wants anyone to make waves about it. Practicality because that guy was one of ours. Not everyone in Afghanistan is on our side, if we start turning on our supporters then who will support us? Do we even have an Afghan police commander we can replace him with? That's the question the military leadership there would be asking. At no time is the victim or the victim's family a primary concern for the military, there's no point pretending that's how it works.[/QUOTE] I dont think the United States really cares about covering up the fact that the Afghan guy was a rapist because the Military is working very hard to make sexual abuse/assault cases a VERY visible issue nowadays. Covering up sexual assault/abuse is a serious crime in the Military, so I really doubt that this is some conspiracy to cover anything up. I'll excuse you from your ignorance though since unless you're actually serving it's easy to make those assumptions. I'll guarantee you that there was a lot more going on with this incident and soldier than the news article is letting on.

If the US military took a foreign officer out the area and tried them under US laws, that would cause a huge diplomatic shit show and we'd lose a lot of support in that area, something we need. It would also make it more difficult to [I]actually[/I] change the culture of the region in the future. Forcing them to change just gives us more groups of people that hate us and more of what we have now.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;48504861]I dont think the United States really cares about covering up the fact that the Afghan guy was a rapist because the Military is working very hard to make sexual abuse/assault cases a VERY visible issue nowadays. Covering up sexual assault/abuse is a serious crime in the Military, so I really doubt that this is some conspiracy to cover anything up. I'll excuse you from your ignorance though since unless you're actually serving it's easy to make those assumptions. I'll guarantee you that there was a lot more going on with this incident and soldier than the news article is letting on.[/QUOTE] Don't confuse 'cover up' with conspiracy. Simply not talking about something is covering it up. You don't need people to conspire to hide something to have a cover up. I'm going by what's presented in the article. Until I have something else, that's what I go by. If the Special Forces guy attacked the Police Commander, then the Police Commander went to another unit and complained, then the Army removed the Special Forces guy- that in itself is covering this up. No public investigation of alleged Afghan police abuse, no public disclosure of the results of that investigation, nothing. For all practical purposes, as far as the public is concerned, this incident never happened(until this guy talked about it). What is that if not a cover up?

He is a professional soldier, what he did was unacceptable regardless of the reason. Its basically workplace violence. Plus it creates a diplomatic issue as well.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;48503687]Yes, and most importantly of all they all want to fucking kill each other. That whole region is just one big shitshow.[/QUOTE] I still have no idea why the U.S Government believed that they could make it a democracy.