NVIDIA limiting Game Ready drivers to GeForce Experience AND email registration in December - other - Polidicks

[url]http://www.pcworld.com/article/2993272/software-games/nvidia-plans-to-lock-game-ready-drivers-behind-geforce-experience-registration.html[/url] [quote=PCWorld]Nvidia’s pushing out a new beta version of its slick GeForce Experience software Thursday, building atop the awesome update from last month that lets you play local co-op games with your faraway friends—even if they don’t have gaming machines. The update adds the ability to broadcast your games to both Twitch and YouTube Gaming at a buttery-smooth 60 frames per second at 1080p resolution. You can now stream games from your GeForce-equipped PC to an Nvidia Shield device at up to 60 fps at 4K resolution, and that’s with 5.1-channel surround sound, too. It’s all wonderful stuff, pushing Nvidia’s class-leading GeForce Experience software even further out in front of the competition, especially if you’re all-in on Nvidia’s ecosystem. But what’s coming today isn’t the real news, even if it’s welcome news. The real news is what’s coming in December—or rather, what’s not coming after December. [B]Of drivers and single-source destinations[/B] One of the key weapons in Nvidia’s arsenal against AMD is its deluge of Game Ready drivers. Virtually every major PC game release in the past two years has been accompanied by a day one, WHQL-certified Game Ready driver from Nvidia, designed to make the latest and greatest games run wonderfully on GeForce graphics cards. They’re great! Sometime in mid-December, however, you’ll be able to install Game Ready drivers only via GeForce Experience—and even then only after you’ve registered a verified email address with Nvidia. The drivers you can grab on GeForce.com or via Windows Update will be limited to quarterly releases for bug fixes, new features, security updates and so on. More frequent Game Ready drivers will be GFE-only.[/quote] I don't give a damn about locking to GFE since I actually bother with it because ShadowPlay, but I do have a problem with mandatory email registration.

This really isn't anything new since windows will often try to update your GPU drivers if it detects newer WHQL drivers, the only thing it is adding is their "game ready" feature. Which I have yet to find a use for.

The latest driver keeps causing my screen to flash

I think this is how they're working around the awful, terrible, egregiously-broken Windows Update system. Since updates are all automatic and mandatory now, people have had issues where new Nvidia drivers are bricking their machines. I know a few people here have had those issues, myself included. Yeah, it's not great that you've got to install GeForce Experience, but if it solves the issue of Windows being really, really stupid, I'd say it's a fair trade.

Honestly, all the game ready drivers I've gotten recently anyway have been unstable. Like, the driver crashes sometimes when I open the start menu on Windows 10 unstable. And the newest one sometimes results in my system hanging after waking from sleep. I'd rather get potentially more stable drivers every quarter than giving my email to NVIDIA in order to get unstable drivers every month.

[QUOTE=woolio1;48918447]I think this is how they're working around the awful, terrible, egregiously-broken Windows Update system. Since updates are all automatic and mandatory now, people have had issues where new Nvidia drivers are bricking their machines. I know a few people here have had those issues, myself included. Yeah, it's not great that you've got to install GeForce Experience, but if it solves the issue of Windows being really, really stupid, I'd say it's a fair trade.[/QUOTE] Fair trade for Win10 users, sure. Win7/8.1? Questionable at best.

looks like i switched to ati just at the right time

Hopefully someone hacks it so it only install the driver and physx, I don't need the other garbage they shove.

GRD's aren't actually all that great, amd most of them have had architectural issues between kepler and maxwell, I actually won't be all that sad to see them go. Secondly this does nothing to prevent 2nd parties like G3D from uploading the packages themselves, unless nvidia plans on completely overhauling their EULA with an entirely new slew of legalese. Making people have to register is straight up bullshit. What they choose to do with hardware after purchase is no one's concern but theirs.

Geforce Experience isn't even that bad Like I get it if you don't want it, but it's not bad or bloatware at all.

it isn't perfect either, and it's dividing their software engineers on stuff that shouldn't necessarily be considered high priority.

[QUOTE=Wormy;48918567]This is why I will keep sticking to W8.1 in the meantime until W10 gets more stable.[/QUOTE] With all the shit Microsoft's pulling with Windows Update and GWX on 7/8.1 systems I'm contemplating just grabbing the offer, making a fresh system image just in case I did want it for whatever reason, and then restoring my 7 image back. At the rate things are going not even Threshold Wave 2 and Redstone (if released before 7/29/16) is going to have me bite.

[QUOTE=woolio1;48918447]I think this is how they're working around the awful, terrible, egregiously-broken Windows Update system. Since updates are all automatic and mandatory now, people have had issues where new Nvidia drivers are bricking their machines. I know a few people here have had those issues, myself included. Yeah, it's not great that you've got to install GeForce Experience, but if it solves the issue of Windows being really, really stupid, I'd say it's a fair trade.[/QUOTE] Never had a problem with it after that first 'oh shit we out a broken update out' update as soon as the OS released All the updates have been handled by gExp without fail. Also the op is full of buzzwords, how amusing

Geforce experience is really annoying for me, I use Nvidia inspector to tweak a lot of settings and add framerate limiters, but NOPE, Geforce experience knows better than me and overwrites them immediately with shittier settings.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48919036]Geforce Experience isn't even that bad Like I get it if you don't want it, but it's not bad or bloatware at all.[/QUOTE] I love GeForce Experience for Shadowplay, but I hate the driver update delivery system. It's completely fucked up the drivers twice, so I disabled it.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48919036]Geforce Experience isn't even that bad Like I get it if you don't want it, but it's not bad or bloatware at all.[/QUOTE] It's by definition bloatware.

[QUOTE=Levelog;48919109]It's by definition bloatware.[/QUOTE] Uh Bloatware would be a piece of software that does nothing How does this do "nothing"? Shadowplay is pretty great and it's always optimized my games to run better than I can in 5 minutes of setting tweaks so how is it be definition when it does things that bloatware can't?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48919117]Uh Bloatware would be a piece of software that does nothing How does this do "nothing"? Shadowplay is pretty great and it's always optimized my games to run better than I can in 5 minutes of setting tweaks so how is it be definition when it does things that bloatware can't?[/QUOTE] Plenty of bloatware has uses? Bloatware doesn't mean it does nothing. It means it's a forced program that tags along with an essential one. Geforce Experience is far, far from essential.

[QUOTE=Levelog;48919144]Plenty of bloatware has uses? Bloatware doesn't mean it does nothing. It means it's a forced program that tags along with an essential one. Geforce Experience is far, far from essential.[/QUOTE] Then we have different definitions. No it's not essential. Steam isn't essential. Nothing is really "essential". It's just not nearly as bad as people are saying or acting lol I'm literally just trying to point out this isn't that bad. It's annoying, but that's the limit of what it is. Geforce isn't a bad product and has kept me updated at a far more regular pace than I updated my drivers myself before. I'm sure no one on earth appreciates that [/sarcasm

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48919178]Then we have different definitions. No it's not essential. Steam isn't essential. Nothing is really "essential". It's just not nearly as bad as people are saying or acting lol I'm literally just trying to point out this isn't that bad. It's annoying, but that's the limit of what it is. Geforce isn't a bad product and has kept me updated at a far more regular pace than I updated my drivers myself before. I'm sure no one on earth appreciates that [/sarcasm[/QUOTE] Steam is essential for playing games on Steam. Nvidia drivers are essential for properly playing games with an nvidia card. Geforce experience has a track record of causing issues and should not be forced on people who want up to date drivers. I've updated my drivers just fine without it since it came out.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;48919178]Then we have different definitions. No it's not essential. Steam isn't essential. Nothing is really "essential". It's just not nearly as bad as people are saying or acting lol I'm literally just trying to point out this isn't that bad. It's annoying, but that's the limit of what it is. Geforce isn't a bad product and has kept me updated at a far more regular pace than I updated my drivers myself before. I'm sure no one on earth appreciates that [/sarcasm[/QUOTE] I think what he is trying to say is that he doesnt want to be forced to use it. its got some nice features (I personally love shadowplay) but its not nice being forced to use it to get something as fundamental as drivers

[QUOTE=Levelog;48919192]Steam is essential for playing games on Steam. Nvidia drivers are essential for properly playing games with an nvidia card. Geforce experience has a track record of causing issues and should not be forced on people who want up to date drivers. I've updated my drivers just fine without it since it came out.[/QUOTE] Do you know how much people used to complain they had to use Steam to use their games? A lot. A LOT. Now, this Geforce is in that same boat of being a piece of side loaded software you have no option in. Honestly, I just don't see the big deal with this.

I would call gExp bloat, it has good use for expanding capabilities of the graphics card, It's just a real hassle to work with

What's stopping from someone just re uploading the drivers to a site like Mega then distributing the link?

i can wait a quarter

I honestly forget that I have Geforce Experience installed unless I want to record something. I have the updates set to let me install them when I want instead of automatically.

[QUOTE=TheJoker;48919545]What's stopping from someone just re uploading the drivers to a site like Mega then distributing the link?[/QUOTE] Nothing.

Here's what happens when someone dominates the market. Give Nvidia a monopoly, and they'll charge you for drivers.

[QUOTE=SouthParkMGT;48922975]Here's what happens when someone dominates the market. Give Nvidia a monopoly, and they'll charge you for drivers.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=woolio1;48918447]I think this is how they're working around the awful, terrible, egregiously-broken Windows Update system. Since updates are all automatic and mandatory now, people have had issues where new Nvidia drivers are bricking their machines. I know a few people here have had those issues, myself included. Yeah, it's not great that you've got to install GeForce Experience, but if it solves the issue of Windows being really, really stupid, I'd say it's a fair trade.[/QUOTE] Seriously, get your head out of your ass

[QUOTE=Rika-chan;48923019]Seriously, get your head out of your ass[/QUOTE] First of all, no need for insults. Second, while I agree it can solve the Windows Update problem, the quoted post still doesn't explain why forcing registration and GeForce Experience is necessary.