Cotton and Trump plot crackdown on legal immigration - Polidicks

[quote]Overlooked in Donald Trump’s campaign crusade against illegal immigration was his vow to crack down on legal immigration, too. Now, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-Ark.), a reliable Trump ally, is taking steps to execute that part of the president’s immigration vision — and it could provoke a showdown between two competing ends of the GOP: the working-class populists led by Trump and the establishment Chamber of Commerce wing. The outspoken, 39-year-old Cotton has written the first in what may be a series of bills to revamp the nation’s immigration system. Cotton will start off with legislation being unveiled Tuesday that will dramatically slash the number of immigrants who can obtain green cards and other visas every year. Right now, U.S. citizens and permanent residents can sponsor a variety of family members, including spouses, parents, siblings and married adult children. Cotton and Perdue’s plan would allow only spouses and unmarried minor children to get green cards, although they would permit visas for aging adult parents whose American children are their caretakers — a population Cotton expects will be modest. The [URL="http://static.politico.com/ad/1b/a981934c4278bfef730dc51b341b/raise-act-bill-text.pdf"]bill[/URL] also dumps the diversity visa lottery, which allots about 50,000 visas per year for citizens of countries that traditionally have low rates of immigration to the United States. And it would limit refugees to 50,000 annually — in line with levels outlined in Trump’s controversial executive order. "Sen. Cotton and I are taking action to fix the shortcomings in our legal immigration system," Perdue said. "Returning to our historically normal levels of legal immigration will help improve the quality of American jobs and wages." All told, the number of legal immigrants allowed into the United States under the bill — named the Reforming American Immigration for Strong Employment (RAISE) Act — would plummet by 40 percent in the first year and by 50 percent over a decade, according to analysis by Cotton’s aides.[/quote] [URL="http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/immigration-trump-senate-cotton-234706"]Source[/URL]

Immigrants are like healthy foods. The US hates them and instead they'll make Canada big and strong.

[quote]Right now, U.S. citizens and permanent residents can sponsor a variety of family members, including spouses, parents, siblings and married adult children. Cotton and Perdue’s plan would allow only spouses and unmarried minor children to get green cards, although they would permit visas for aging adult parents whose American children are their caretakers — a population Cotton expects will be modest. [/quote] PLEASE FUCK NO [editline]7th February 2017[/editline] i just turned 21 and if i can't sponsor my parents i'll fucking yell

what the fuck is wrong with these retarded pieces of fucks as if immigrating to the us isn't already retardedly hard

Wait, what the fuck does this mean for fiance visas? I'm in the U.S. on a visa that meant I moved here and then got married. Does this mean only couples already married would be eligible for green cards? [editline]8th February 2017[/editline] 100% fuck this government, they don't care how many lives they destroy or how much they fuck the economy, so long as they can check off their ultranationalist agenda.

I swear to god if this succeeds I'm moving out of here, my girlfriend is here on a work visa, and our plan was to get married years down they line, without any of this she'll have to go back and I'll be damned if I'm gonna let that happen.

The Diversity lottery was dumb bullshit anyways, it's literally exactly what it sounds like.

This would fuck over so many people it's nowhere NEAR worth any upsides it might give. Spoiler: [sp]there are none[/sp].

[QUOTE]Cotton dismisses research that shows the economic boon of immigrants, including low-skilled workers, by paraphrasing George Orwell: “Only an intellectual could believe something so stupid.”[/QUOTE] hhhhhhhhh

[QUOTE]by paraphrasing George Orwell: “Only an intellectual could believe something so stupid.” [/QUOTE] oh fuck off just because something's quotable doesn't mean it applies to any situation you want it to

[QUOTE=1239the;51790467]Wait, what the fuck does this mean for fiance visas? I'm in the U.S. on a visa that meant I moved here and then got married. Does this mean only couples already married would be eligible for green cards? [editline]8th February 2017[/editline] 100% fuck this government, they don't care how many lives they destroy or how much they fuck the economy, so long as they can check off their ultranationalist agenda.[/QUOTE] I think K1 is safe as it is non-immigrant and as it lets you become a spouse of a US citizen then you are safe to apply for a greencard as they seem to still intend spouses to be able to get them. I am about to get my K1 so I am on edge a lot as well.

[QUOTE=Thom12255;51790772]I think K1 is safe as it is non-immigrant and as it lets you become a spouse of a US citizen then you are safe to apply for a greencard as they seem to still intend spouses to be able to get them. I am about to get my K1 so I am on edge a lot as well.[/QUOTE] Let me tell you friend, they aren't making it any easier. I called the USCIS three times now, an exasperated worker told me due to the federal hiring freeze all applications have been delayed for months. Meanwhile I'm living in the U.S. unable to work or do anything until my permit arrives.

[QUOTE=1239the;51790797]Let me tell you friend, they aren't making it any easier. I called the USCIS three times now, an exasperated worker told me due to the federal hiring freeze all applications have been delayed for months. Meanwhile I'm living in the U.S. unable to work or do anything until my permit arrives.[/QUOTE] That's unfortunate :/ I have my interview at the embassy next week. Honestly, as long as I can get married and be allowed to stay I am fine waiting. The Republicans are just constantly freaking me out right now with their disregard for peoples futures.

Christ almighty calm down, this bill will die on the floor. A number of Republicans are pro legal immigration Cotton will be hard pressed to drum up enough support in his own party to matter, especially with how unpopular Trumps EO has been among even republicans. Even if it did somehow magically pass, it'll probably be a while before it makes it to POTUS to be signed into law so you have time to do your immigration stuff. I'm about to do mine and it'll only take 3-4 months for me to get a green card so I'd be safe in anycase.

[QUOTE=Ta16;51790986]Christ almighty calm down, this bill will die on the floor. A number of Republicans are pro legal immigration Cotton will be hard pressed to drum up enough support in his own party to matter, especially with how unpopular Trumps EO has been among even republicans. Even if it did somehow magically pass, it'll probably be a while before it makes it to POTUS to be signed into law so you have time to do your immigration stuff. I'm about to do mine and it'll only take 3-4 months for me to get a green card so I'd be safe in anycase.[/QUOTE] calm down, Trump will never be elected. calm down, the Muslim ban rhetoric was just for show. calm down, it's only your entire future at stake, nothing to worry about.

[QUOTE=Thom12255;51790772]I think K1 is safe as it is non-immigrant and as it lets you become a spouse of a US citizen then you are safe to apply for a greencard as they seem to still intend spouses to be able to get them. I am about to get my K1 so I am on edge a lot as well.[/QUOTE] Makes three of us, I'm a week or two away from my K1 Noa2, if it gets canned my partner and I are fucked. No way for her to live or visit Australia for a few years at least. Good luck with your interview. I know it's a difficult consulate as the one I'll go to, but let me know how it goes. I want to know what to expect.

[QUOTE=Animosus;51792365]Makes three of us, I'm a week or two away from my K1 Noa2, if it gets canned my partner and I are fucked. No way for her to live or visit Australia for a few years at least. Good luck with your interview. I know it's a difficult consulate as the one I'll go to, but let me know how it goes. I want to know what to expect.[/QUOTE] I came from Australia on a K1, I did my interview at the Sydney consulate. It's rather casual - they asked where we met, what we do for a living, how long we've known each other, and so on. The only thing they dinged us on was that my american fiancé wasn't working at the time, but he got a job soon after and I sent in that information, then a week later I had the confirmation.

Retroactively deport everyone that immigrated here, my family is from Canada, so :v: Sadly, Quebec tho.

There's something that makes this even worse than it sounded at first to me once I thought about it. One thing I'd like to point out about the Green Card system, since I see some confusion sometimes (understandably). You don't just "print out" new ones when they are needed. There are, at any given time, a limited number of Green Cards available in the US, basically. So let's say there are 500 green cards and holders in the country, (the source of this number is my ass, it's just an example) another person then completes immigration forms for a stay, let's say for work. They are granted a work visa, right? Well. Sort of. They don't just make a 501st visa and give it over to them, essentially, one of those 500 must become "cleared", eligible for transfer, either because it expired, the person left, or something like that. This is one of the reasons immigration forms can take a long time to be processed and come back, as even if you are successfully granted a visa, they can't give you one that doesn't exist. You always hear about that whole "a significant portion of illegal immigrants didn't actually enter the country illegally" thing, yeah? This system is why that statistic is so high, the deadlines can sometimes be quite strict, and when these visas are constantly being recycled back into the system to be used again, your recently expired green card is highly unlikely to be waiting for you where you left it, it's not like just going to the DMV to renew your license, making it surprisingly easy for this to happen sometimes. This is also why people that are planning to stay or even live in the US for a good amount of time often seek a dual citizenship or a standard one (relinquishing their original one) out of courtesy, so that they are no longer taking up a green card "slot" that other, less fortunate people could be using over that time. At least, this is my current understanding of the system as a non-immigrant, hopefully not too many mistakes. TL;DR Cracking down on legal immigration even further is ridiculous.

So really banning all immigration, illegal or legal, is going to tank our economy so badly. The unskilled labor is needed and anyone more than a first or second gen american isnt going to work the fields for $5/hr

[QUOTE=elitehakor;51790433]PLEASE FUCK NO [editline]7th February 2017[/editline] i just turned 21 and if i can't sponsor my parents i'll fucking yell[/QUOTE] You were no longer considered an "unmarried minor child" when you turned 18, turning 21 change your issue for better or worse.

[QUOTE=1239the;51792592]I came from Australia on a K1, I did my interview at the Sydney consulate. It's rather casual - they asked where we met, what we do for a living, how long we've known each other, and so on. The only thing they dinged us on was that my american fiancé wasn't working at the time, but he got a job soon after and I sent in that information, then a week later I had the confirmation.[/QUOTE] That doesn't sound so bad. I hate the fact I've got to go to Sydney for it (I'm from Perth) but sounds reasonably easy.

[QUOTE=RenegadeCop;51792887]If I remember right, that quote is about consciously tricking yourself into believing a lie, and then "forgetting" that you tricked yourself, so the lie replaces the truth and always was the truth. The irony. Fucking hell, I knew reading 1984 would be beneficial.[/QUOTE] By definition, anti-intellectualism is fucking stupid.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;51792922]You were no longer considered an "unmarried minor child" when you turned 18, turning 21 change your issue for better or worse.[/QUOTE] i don't need a green card, i'm a citizen my parents need a green card so i was going to sponsor them, but if this bill goes through then there goes that fucking plan