Rejection of experts spreads from Brexit to climate change with 'Clexit' - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Clexit calls for withdrawal from climate treaties, rejects the conclusions of 97% of climate science experts and 95% of economics experts Brexit support and climate denial have many similarities. Many Brexit Leave campaign leaders also deny the dangers of human-caused climate change. Older generations were more likely to vote for the UK to leave the EU and are more likely to oppose taking action on climate change; younger generations disagree, and will be forced to live with the consequences of those decisions. On both issues there’s also a dangerous strain of anti-intellectualism, in which campaigners mock experts and dismiss their evidence and conclusions. ... Clexit leaders are heavily involved in tobacco and fossil fuel-funded organizations, in what’s become known as “the web of denial.” The group’s president is Christopher Monckton, whose extensive misunderstanding of basic climate science was revealed in a thorough debunking by John Abraham, and who insists that President Obama was born in Kenya, among his many controversial and conspiratorial public statements. Its vice president is Marc Morano, who began his career working for Rush Limbaugh and is essentially the real-life version of the character Nick Naylor from the film Thank You for Smoking. Its secretary is Viv Forbes, who has been involved with coal industry for over 40 years and is associated with many fossil fuel-funded groups. [/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2016/aug/08/rejection-of-experts-spreads-from-brexit-to-climate-change-with-clexit"]Source[/URL] :suicide:

[B][I][U]fuck offffffffff[/U][/I][/B]

[quote]Clexit leaders are heavily involved in tobacco and fossil fuel-funded organizations[/quote] No shit.

[quote]Clexit leaders are heavily involved in tobacco and fossil fuel-funded organizations[/quote] Raise your hand if this shocks you at all.

[QUOTE]Carbon dioxide is NOT a dangerous pollutant – it is a natural, non-toxic and beneficial gas which feeds all life on earth. [/QUOTE] :what:

I almost wish that this kind of insistent ignorance was actually illegal, like if climate-change deniers were punished like folks who deny the Holocaust ever happened. But hey, we can at least hope that when most of the coastal cities are flooded, displacing millions of people to migrate further inland, that the Big Oil/Coal folks are dragged from their mansions, or at least forced to barricade themselves from furious mobs led by some guy in a gas mask who sounds like Deckard Cain.

The royal family is probably like "We would be a better government than these clowns".

Good thing all that coporate money can buy them a new planet.

[QUOTE=Morgen;50850265]:what:[/QUOTE] Well, it [I]is[/I] technically both. Good example of how too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.

[QUOTE=OvB;50850327]Well, it [I]is[/I] technically both. Good example of how too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.[/QUOTE] Just like freedom from the fourth reich

Ok England, nows your chance to redeem yourself slightly. When the referendum comes along, vote NO for rejecting the theory of climate change.

[QUOTE=OvB;50850327]Well, it [I]is[/I] technically both. Good example of how too much of a good thing can be a bad thing.[/QUOTE] Well it would be, if we could stuff the carbon dioxide/monoxide back into the earth itself after the fossil fuels are spent.

"Those people who know what they're talking about have NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT!" What is the world coming to.

[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;50850349]Ok England, nows your chance to redeem yourself slightly. When the referendum comes along, vote NO for rejecting the theory of climate change.[/QUOTE] You can bet I'll make the right choice at the polling station. Even if it results in another pisstakingly-close split that results in "fuck the world and all it stands for" sliding in by a nosehair's breadth, and even if we somehow vote NO overall the government disregards the referendum and bows to their gods of gold and oil in denying climate change. This is why I wish we had a secret technocracy, rather than a secret plutocracy.

[QUOTE=ironman17;50850279]I almost wish that this kind of insistent ignorance was actually illegal, like if climate-change deniers were punished like folks who deny the Holocaust ever happened. But hey, we can at least hope that when most of the coastal cities are flooded, displacing millions of people to migrate further inland, that the Big Oil/Coal folks are dragged from their mansions, or at least forced to barricade themselves from furious mobs led by some guy in a gas mask who sounds like Deckard Cain.[/QUOTE] there's a book series that reads like it was written by these people. basically one generation from now, things will be so bad that drastic measures will be taken forcibly upending the social order but mankind comes out of it with terraforming projects underway on mars, venus, on dwarf planets in the asteroid belt and the jovian system, microwave power relays, AI systems managing infastructure and massive technological leaps but then the next generation after that treats them all as if they were crazy and stupid, even ridiculing their actions "PFF so they saved the planet and mankind, but they destroyed free enterprise!" i think i stopped halfway through the book because nobody bothered to say "i'm sorry we saved the world for you, darn we should have just let it all collapse. Oh and those other 3 worlds you can go live on, guess we shouldn't have wasted the time on those either, or that interstellar ark that we launched, or the massive clean energy projects, nope sorry you're right we were the horrible people for creating a better future" this book for anyone interested [t]http://d.gr-assets.com/books/1396830968l/20893396.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50850281]The royal family is probably like "We would be a better government than these clowns".[/QUOTE]I imagine Prince Charles has to be physically restrained from strangling some MPs, since he's very much into environmentalism and whatnot.

What series would that be? Sounds mildly interesting.

[QUOTE=ironman17;50850510]What series would that be? Sounds mildly interesting.[/QUOTE] i honestly can't remember the title anymore, it has a spaceship with two hulls on the cover and the book spends the majority of the first half showing off how stupid the next generation is. the ending is also increadibly rushed and terrible, but it did get a sequel for some reason

Pity. Any idea who wrote it? It sounds like the kind of paperback my grandfather would have had on his bookshelves, alongside a bunch of novels by Arthur C Clarke or Orson Scott Card.

[QUOTE=Morgen;50850265][QUOTE]Carbon dioxide is NOT a dangerous pollutant – it is a natural, non-toxic and beneficial gas which feeds all life on earth.[/QUOTE]:what:[/QUOTE] It's what plants [I]crave[/I]

[QUOTE=Mining Bill;50850567]It's what plants [I]crave[/I][/QUOTE] Theyre spinning it saying its not a toxic air pollutant and ignoring the fact that CO2 and CH4 (methane) contain the space radiation that reflects off the earth and causes global warming.

[QUOTE=Morgen;50850265]:what:[/QUOTE] It's like saying "There's no way pure lithium will explode and burn me, everyone knows that lithium is a beneficial metal that makes good batteries!" Like these people don't understand you can't simply categorize everything as good or bad universally.

[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50850281]The royal family is probably like "We would be a better government than these clowns".[/QUOTE] I'm honestly wondering at this point why haven't the portion of the british population who have half a brain just give power back to the royal family to stop this clusterfuck mess of politics.

[quote]Clexit leaders are heavily involved in tobacco and fossil fuel-funded organizations, in what’s become known as “the web of denial.” The group’s president is Christopher Monckton, whose extensive misunderstanding of basic climate science was revealed in a thorough debunking by John Abraham, and who insists that President Obama was born in Kenya, among his many controversial and conspiratorial public statements. Its vice president is Marc Morano, who began his career working for Rush Limbaugh and is essentially the real-life version of the character Nick Naylor from the film Thank You for Smoking. Its secretary is Viv Forbes, who has been involved with coal industry for over 40 years and is associated with many fossil fuel-funded groups.[/quote] Literal human garbage/cancer. We need to get rid of people like this. They have too much influence in the world that they abuse for personal gain.

That's it, the UK has gone senile, we need to get the UK into a home it can't break out of.

Anarchy against these clowns is better at this point, the facts have already been laid out yet people/corporations deny them for shit reasons (Profit is not a good reason).

[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;50850897]That's it, the UK has gone senile, we need to get the UK into a home it can't break out of.[/QUOTE] put us out of our misery please

[quote]The group effectively asks that we all reject the conclusions of 97% of climate science experts and 95% of economics experts, in favor of the myths and misinformation propagated by their fake experts. Perhaps, as top Leave campaigner Michael Gove said: [B]'people in this country have had enough of experts.' [/B] Gove also pushed to remove climate change from school curriculums, before backing down.[/quote] Stop killing my country.

Our planet is well and truly fucked.

[QUOTE=Govna;50850867]Literal human garbage/cancer. We need to get rid of people like this. They have too much influence in the world that they abuse for personal gain.[/QUOTE] What do you mean by "getting rid of them"?