Philadelphia Archdiocese suspends 21 priests for accused pedophilic activities - Polidicks

[release]The Archdiocese of Philadelphia announced Tuesday that it had suspended 21 priests from active ministry in connection with accusations that involved sexual abuse or otherwise inappropriate behavior with minors. The mass suspension was the single-most sweeping in the history of the sexual-abuse scandal in the Roman Catholic Church in the United States, said Terence McKiernan, president of BishopAccountability.org, which archives documents from the abuse scandal in dioceses across the country. The archdiocese’s action follows a damning grand jury report issued Feb. 10 that accused the archdiocese of a widespread cover-up of predatory priests, stretching over decades, and said that as many as 37 priests remained active in the ministry despite credible accusations against them. Of those 37 priests, 21 were suspended; three others already had been placed on administrative leave after the grand jury detailed accusations against them. Five others would have been suspended, the church said in a statement, but three are no longer active and two are no longer active in the Philadelphia Archdiocese. The church said that in eight cases, no further investigation was warranted. The statement said the accusations against the 21 ranged from “sexual abuse of a minor to boundary issues with minors,” but did not describe them further. Nor did it name the 21 whom it suspended, drawing the fury of groups representing abuse victims. Many parishioners are likely to learn that their priest was accused when he fails to appear for Ash Wednesday services. The announcement was a major embarrassment for Cardinal Justin Rigali, who, in response to the grand jury report, had initially said there were no priests in active ministry “who have an admitted or established allegation of sexual abuse of a minor against them.” A few days later, Cardinal Rigali placed three priests on administrative leave. His statement Tuesday did not explain why he had made his initial assurances nor did it say why the priests had not been suspended earlier. “We may have to be asking, what did the cardinal know and when did he know it?” said Leonard Norman Primiano, a Roman Catholic and chairman of the religious studies department at Cabrini College in nearby Radnor, Pa. He described the mass suspension as “astonishing.” At a minimum, the scope of the suspensions underscored the grand jury’s contention that the archdiocese had failed to clean house after a grand jury report in 2005 found credible accusations of abuse by 63 priests. And it suggested that potentially, predatory priests had had access to thousands of children for years. The grand jury report prompted the indictment last month of four priests and a parochial school teacher. They include Msgr. William Lynn, the first senior church official in the United States to face criminal charges of covering up abusive behavior. Cardinal Rigali, 75, said the suspensions were interim measures, pending fuller investigations. And he apologized for the behavior of abusive priests. “I am truly sorry for the harm done to the victims of sexual abuse, as well as to the members of our community who suffer as a result of this great evil and crime,” he said. He is expected to address the issue Wednesday in a noon service at the Cathedral Basilica of SS. Peter and Paul. He has scheduled a penitential service for Friday. Those on leave are not allowed to celebrate Mass publicly, wear collars or hear confessions. They were given a few hours’ notice to leave their parishes before the announcement. Once the identities of the suspended priests become public, analysts said, there could be a dam-breaking effect as there was in Boston in 2002, when initial reports led to more sexual-abuse claims. Since the grand jury report in Philadelphia, two people have filed civil suits, and Jeff Armstrong, a lawyer representing them, said he had received “dozens” of calls from others who might file. “We’re approaching this with a new vigor,” Mr. Armstrong said. “Like Boston, this is a watershed moment, where all of a sudden the secrets are no longer kept and permission is given to break the silence to this whole survivors’ community.” If charges against the priests are upheld, the church could face a payout of millions of dollars in legal settlements. The charges come at a stressful time for the church, with membership and parochial school enrollment declining. The archdiocese announced last week that it was closing seven schools in June; it has already closed more than 40 since 2006. [/release] [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/us/09priests.html?_r=1[/url] I hope the further investigations are fruitful and they're brought to justice.

Took long enough. :buddy:

[quote][img]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_HrwWaGmTs3w/TI5wiWBjKpI/AAAAAAAAGLk/e1WrFxhttB8/s1600/Ratzinger.jpg[/img] This is absolutely disgusting! They were boys! Numbers 31:17-18 (King James Version) Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But [B]all the women children[/B], that have not known a man by lying with him,[B] keep alive for yourselves.[/B][/quote]

Great Now everybody will carry on making fun of priests because of this shit.

it only took a decade y thank you vatican everything is forgiven [editline]9th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Daedulas;28505875]Great Now everybody will carry on making fun of priests because of this shit.[/QUOTE] as they damn well should

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;28505890]it only took a decade y thank you vatican everything is forgiven [editline]9th March 2011[/editline] as they damn well should[/QUOTE] I don't think the Vatican had much of anything to do with this, it seems to be totally from the Archdiocese

In the case of valid, credible accusations, why would you not immediately take appropriate action? E: Yeah this actually has nothing to do with Rome, just the terrible actions of some fools (referring to those who covered up crimes, not the pedophiles themselves). I doubt any officials covered up crimes out of malice, more likely a misguided desire to protect the church when this in fact does the opposite.

[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28505913]In the case of valid, credible accusations, why would you not immediately take appropriate action?[/QUOTE] Iunno, good question to ask of the tons of other people who covered this kind of stuff up. Good on this AD for actually following through with such things.

Seriously, the Catholic Church needs to [B]at least[/B] remove the celibacy pact.

[QUOTE=Contag;28505956]Seriously, the Catholic Church needs to [B]at least[/B] remove the celibacy pact.[/QUOTE] Because celibacy turns you into a pedophile? E: Bear in mind also these are only allegations ranging over a variety of offences. I trust that full and appropriate investigation shall be taken place, but this isn't the same as "21 priests suspended for being pedophiles".

[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28505982]Because celibacy turns you into a pedophile?[/QUOTE] It certainly doesn't help, and in our rich Western lifestyle, stoicism plays no part. [quote]A majority of American Catholics believe celibacy plays a role in sex abuse of children by Catholic priests according to a new poll 31 percent see the policy as a major factor and 28 percent characterize it as a minor factor in causing the abuse,in latest New York Times/CBS News Poll.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Contag;28506138]It certainly doesn't help, and in our rich Western lifestyle, stoicism plays no part.[/QUOTE] That's preposterous. What about the vast majority of celibate priests who do not remotely become attracted to children? What about celibates for any reason world-wide - are they all pre-disposed to pedophilia as well? And, for the sake of argument, suppose celibacy leads to outbursts of repressed sexual desire - why does one turn to pedophilia, rather than simply hiring a prostitute, etc? What about the other reasons for celibacy in priests, be they faith-based or financial-based? I completely disagree. Any priest who rapes children does not suffer due to celibacy, but due to mental illness - the same way the shooter of an American congresswoman (?) later last year was not truly motivated by political leanings but by mental illness.

[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28506220]That's preposterous. What about the vast majority of celibate priests who do not remotely become attracted to children? What about celibates for any reason world-wide - are they all pre-disposed to pedophilia as well? And, for the sake of argument, suppose celibacy leads to outbursts of repressed sexual desire - why does one turn to pedophilia, rather than simply hiring a prostitute, etc? What about the other reasons for celibacy in priests, be they faith-based or financial-based? I completely disagree. Any priest who rapes children does not suffer due to celibacy, but due to mental illness - the same way the shooter of an American congresswoman (?) later last year was not truly motivated by political leanings but by mental illness.[/QUOTE] For what reasons should celibacy exist? Shouldn't celibacy be voluntary? The Lord said be fruitful, and from a Christian perspective, who better than an agent of the Lord? [editline]9th March 2011[/editline] [quote]What about the other reasons for celibacy in priests, [B]financial-based?[/B][/quote] What? [editline]9th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28506220]That's preposterous. What about the vast majority of celibate priests who do not remotely become attracted to children? What about celibates for any reason world-wide - are they all pre-disposed to pedophilia as well? And, for the sake of argument, suppose celibacy leads to outbursts of repressed sexual desire - why does one turn to pedophilia, rather than simply hiring a prostitute, etc? What about the other reasons for celibacy in priests, be they faith-based or financial-based? I completely disagree. Any priest who rapes children does not suffer due to celibacy, but due to mental illness - the same way the shooter of an American congresswoman (?) later last year was not truly motivated by political leanings but by mental illness.[/QUOTE] What is preposterous is your unreasonable characterization of my argument, indicating that I believe all celibacy leads to pedophilia. My argument is that celibacy is both a recent and outdated concept which is not integral to a moral life, and [B]can[/B] cause harmful paraphilic practices.

[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;28506220]That's preposterous. What about the vast majority of celibate priests who do not remotely become attracted to children? What about celibates for any reason world-wide - are they all pre-disposed to pedophilia as well? And, for the sake of argument, suppose celibacy leads to outbursts of repressed sexual desire - why does one turn to pedophilia, rather than simply hiring a prostitute, etc? What about the other reasons for celibacy in priests, be they faith-based or financial-based? I completely disagree. Any priest who rapes children does not suffer due to celibacy, but due to mental illness - the same way the shooter of an American congresswoman (?) later last year was not truly motivated by political leanings but by mental illness.[/QUOTE] The "vast majority" just haven't been caught yet.

Strange. If you have sex with a man your gay and cant be a priest. If you have sex with a boy however...